Posted on 07/03/2006 10:38:13 AM PDT by A CA Guy
SAN FRANCISCO, July 3 — The newest attraction planned for Fisherman's Wharf, San Francisco's most popular tourist destination, has no sign, no advertisements and not even a scrap of sourdough. Yet everyone seems to think that the new business, the Green Cross, will be a hit, drawing customers from all over the region to sample its aromatic wares.
For some, that is exactly the problem.
"The city is saturated with pot clubs," said T. Wade Randlett, the president of SF SOS, a quality-of-life group that opposes the planned club. "Fisherman's Wharf is a tourism attraction, and this is not the kind of tourism we're trying to attract."
Emboldened by a series of regulations passed last fall by the city's Board of Supervisors, some neighborhoods are resisting new marijuana dispensaries, which they say attract crime and dealers bent on reselling the drugs. In the debate over the new rules last year, several neighborhoods successfully lobbied to be exempted from having new clubs.
Other neighborhoods managed to get clubs shuttered, including a previous version of the Green Cross, which was forced out of a storefront in the city's Mission District after neighbors said they had seen a rise in drug dealing, traffic problems and petty crime, a charge the Green Cross denies.
And while the law was passed with seriously ill patients in mind, like those with AIDS and cancer, some critics say that now even people with commonplace aches and pains can get a doctor's recommendation.
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Hey, I support legalization. We'll still have all the social ills that go along with drug abuse- but we'll reduce the crime associated with drug trafficking. The war on drugs is as much of a success as the prohibition of alcohol was.
Unfortunately, folks like us are in the minority. The majority of americans still want drugs to be illegal. And in a democratic society, we have to bow to the will of the majority, even if the majority is wrong.
It's the Libs that think a vocal minority can ally themselves with anarchist pols and activist judges to nullify laws they disagree with.
They always have to plaster any possible side effects all over the place to avoid lawsuits. You get the same thing on many over the counter stuff to also avoid lawsuits.
In most cases, the side effects of most legal drugs are minimal, but you do get the occasional person who reacts badly.
Some of the other drugs for perhaps things like Cancer are real harsh on the system and puts the body through hell, because the current way you kill a cancer is to try and kill the cancer tissue or tumor before it kills the healthy tissue and patient.
I do think companies are doing their best to reduce side effects, but some will always suffer from their own allergies to certain things.
Sometimes drugs that can save a life have the side effect of leaving the people dizzy. I think some of the drugs that deal with partially clogged arteries are like that as are some blood pressure medicines.
Comes down in some cases to dead or having some minor symptoms from using a medication.
I think in the next thirty years most side effects in medications will be greatly increased, they are getting better and better at medicine and we do live in miraculous times.
I do think there is a place for limited medical marijuana, but I think activist doctors and recreational drug users ruin it. I also have concern about all the crime these places have been attracting.
I haven't touched marijuana (the only illegal drug I ever took) since 1977. I think it is stupid, other than for real medical reasons.
I also think it should be legalized in the same way alcohol is.
>>The crime comes from it being legal at the local level, but not at the State or Federal level.<<
Exactly. Sometimes the devil is in the details, and a slight twist on a thing can completely change its effect.
A car with no steering wheel would look almost exactly like any other car - except it would be useless.
Treat this stuff like alcohol and not only would most of the problems go away, but we'd save a ton on the WOD.
Love Potions at #9?
Crack with your Cracked Crabs?
Alioto's Joints-R-Us?
Do you seriously imagine, for even a moment, that any of these stupid, pointless, expensive laws reduce consumption to any measurable degree? Really?
If so ,there's this bridge....
BTW< My only drug is coffee, no pot, booze nor anything else.
Alcohol is illegal under many circumstances. Now pot has limited legal use and is illegal under many circumstances, so you have your wish.
Though the pro-recreational drug users with deny this with their last breath, there is a big difference between alcohol and pot.
Pot is breathed in and gets to the body with it's intoxicating ingredients almost instantly. With alcohol you can sip a little or drink a little with food and you won't have the same dangerous high effect.
Most don't consider pot that big a deal with minor use, if you get caught smoking with a small amount you get a ticket (big deal). If you are in the lifestyle so heavily that you smoke a lot or deal the drugs, that is where the line IMO gets crossed to the side of being a serious problem.
Lastly, the other reason it isn't legal is that you would grow the use and addiction of Pot like legalizing alcohol has. Only difference is where you may not get intoxicated with alcohol, you get high the first puff with pot.
So there is an apples and oranges thing going on between pot and alcohol. They are not the same thing at all. But if you are starting the movement to ban alcohol more so than it is now with abuse, then go for it!
Why do you believe someone else has more standing than you do in deciding what chemicals you put into your body? Why would you let someone else, at the point of a gun, tell you which plants you can use and which you cannot?
Why do you believe someone else has more standing than you do in deciding what side of the road you drive on? Why would you let someone else, at the point of a gun, tell you which streetlights you must stop or drive through?
"Like I keep saying: Let's to a land swap with China, Taiwan for California. Each nation gets rid of a rogue province, China gets millions more socialists and we get millions more capitalists."
Not land to swap but people...we get the Taiwanese in Calif. and they can move our Ca. liberals over to Taiwan
closer to their ideologic motherland... Red China.
Why do you hate freedom?
Seriously.
The roads are a shared resource. I own them as much as anyone. We establish a political process for determining just what the rules will be for this shared resource.
My body, on the other hand, is not public property. I should be able to decide what the rules are for my own body. Not you.
Freedom is great, as is civilization. Both are really good, SERIOUSLY!
We all get you want to use alcohol as a platform to legalize recreational drugs, but they are so different that you really can compare them until the alcohol drinker abuses the alcohol (which is when you could be legally breaking the law depending on where and what you are doing).
Is that you robertpaulsen?
Any statistics? Or just your slanted anectdotal views?
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