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Honor the Threat (Treason Sinkhole swallows up Old Hag)
TownHall.com ^ | Saturday, July 1, 2006 | Lorie Byrd

Posted on 07/01/2006 12:07:10 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Are the New York Times, the L.A. Times and others honoring the threat when they publish classified information about our anti-terrorism methods? Judging from their actions it would appear that Bill Keller at the New York Times, and others, see a greater threat from the Bush administration than from those engaging in acts of jihadist terrorism. full article here...

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Treason Sinkhole swallows up Old Hag

Sooooo, lemme get this straight: The New York Times defends the outing of a top secret program on the basis that the terrorists probably already knew about the program and the program was secret which is why they outed it and the public had a right to know about this secret program that the terrorists probably already knew about so it wasn't really a secret and somebody had to take a stand against DUMBYA'S REICH-WING FASCIST TYRANNY and nobody's been prosecuted for treason under Dumbya's Reich-wing fascist tyranny so WE at the Times have nothing to worry about and this White House is too secretive anyway and we're tired of the secrecy and you can't blame us for publishing the story since this White House is leaking like a sieve. It's immoral and outrageous to have leaked Valerie Plame's "secrets." Unless WE'RE doing the leaking.

Got that? Joe Blow Wilson "outs" his own desk-jockey CIA witch, so Karl Rove should go to jail.

Given how fast its circulation is falling, outing top secret programs could be part of the paper's drive to sign up new al-Qaeda subscribers to offset the loss.

The Bush administration for weeks begged the New York Times not to out the Terrorist Finance Tracking Program (TFTP), a follow-the-money Treasury-CIA program, begun shortly after 9/11, which tracks suspicious international moments of moolah among terror cells with the goal of curtailing terror funding and curtailing things like terrorists flying planes into skyscrapers. Under TFTP, "transactions of people suspected of having ties to Al Qaeda" can be traced by counterterrorism officials "reviewing records from the nerve center of the global banking industry, a Belgian cooperative" known as Swift, write the counter-counterterrorism duo of Eric Lichtblau and James Risen.

The program helped bag al-Qaeda honcho Riduan Isamuddin, whose peaceful Islamic activities included masterminding the 2002 Bali bombing, and Uzair Paracha, a Brooklyn man who helped an al-Qaeda operative in Pakistan launder $200,000 through a Karachi bank. The program had helped identify some of the biggest enemies of the U.S. on American soil. No, not the Democrats. Terrorists and terror cells. So, the New York Times outed the largest U.S. effort to track and cut off terrorist financing. And tipped off al-Qaeda to this Bu$Hitlerian invasion of their privacy.

But! The paper says it was done to protect our freedoms. Feel much safer now, don't you? Just 'watching' over the 'PNAC neoCon regime' for us. Listen, if you let Bush snoop on al-Qaeda's bank records, Bush wins. Libbies see it as a slippery slope. First they came for the Taliban, and I said nothing . . . then they came for Saddam's gold toilet seats, palaces and semi-kidney-shaped swimming pools, and I said nothing . . .

For all the talk about "privacy," once you're killed and pieces of you are scattered all over your bombed out train, chances are at that point you might consider "civil liberties" a tad overrated.

'Sides, the program is legal. SCOTUS has ruled that the Fourth Amendment doesn't protect financial records held by third parties. Financial transactions limited to within the U.S. are not in the Swift database. An independent auditing firm ensures only terrorists are targeted. Administrative subpoenas were used. Members of Congress were briefed. Members of al-Qaeda weren't briefed. That's the problem the Times has with the program. If al-Qaeda is sending you money, we DON'T want to know about it.

Liberals love central planning, socialist health care, national ID cards, street surveillance cameras, national gun registries, smoking bans, the IRS, and rummaging through Rush Limbaugh's luggage for possible possession of Preparation H, but thank goodness they draw the line at combing through Mullah Omar's bank records.

Liberals are so easy to please. Watch over terrorists for them, and they whine that Bush is being Big Brother. Then they whine that Bush isn't protecting them enough, pointing to "lax" port security -- each shipping container isn't being scanned for dangerous packages possibly containing Viagra.

Libbies whine that Bush didn't "connect the dots" and foil the 9/11 plot before 9/11 and scream "ENTRAPMENT'! for foiling the Sears Tower bomb plot. Yes, these seven little darlings were upstanding citizens until Bush entrapped them. The lesson here is that terrorists have become so discombobulated by Bush's 'failed' policies, they can't get much beyond the planning phase anymore.

The Losercrats whine that the war is taking too long. It's being "prolonged" by cowboy warmonger Bush to expand his hegemonic influence throughout the planet. Take it from this hegemonist in good standing, this war would probably be over a lot sooner if it weren't for pond scum liberals giving their fellow pond scum "insurgents" in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere the hope of defeating America. Mustn't 'abuse' al-Qaeda. Mustn't "wiretap" al-Qaeda. Mustn't spy on al-Qaeda. Mustn't detain al-Qaeda. Mustn't 'rendition' al-Qaeda. Mustn't infiltrate al-Qaeda. Mustn't "entrap" al-Qaeda. Mustn't comb its finances. Mustn't have Gitmo. Mustn't fight with both hands. Mustn't harm al-Qaeda's little eardrums with loud Christina Aguilera music. Or adorn their heads with panties. Near as I can tell, the Democrat plan to fight and win the War On Terror is to detain Rush Limbaugh for erectile dysfunction.

"My (redeployment) plan is not cut and run. Their plan is lie and die," John Kerry told Imus in the Morning shortly before his plan lied and died on the Senate floor, 86-13. The alternative Levin-Reed redeployment "plan" also lied and died shortly afterward, 60-39. Given their impressive string of defeats, I don't know why Democrats don't just redeploy to France. Or to Paradise Island -- Cuba.

This, straight from the horseface's mouth: "Our plan is very simple. It's redeploy to win the war on terror. Change to succeed. You have a better chance of success" through redeployment.

To that I have only one reploy.

I propose that we redeploy the New York Times to a maximum-security U.S. penitentiary. No, this ain't a "pull out," just a redeployment. Change to succeed. Change their location to the slammer until they give up their "source" or "sources." You have a better chance at success. And yes, let's have a strict timetable -- let's have the leaker or leakers face a redeployed firing squad by no later than two years ago.

Anyway, that's...
My Two Cents...
"JohnHuang2"



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dnctime; oldgreyhag; treasontimes
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1 posted on 07/01/2006 12:07:12 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ladyinred; Angel; ..

Have a great weekend, y'all.


2 posted on 07/01/2006 12:07:48 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Another terrific post! :-)

Hope you have a joyous FORTH!

3 posted on 07/01/2006 12:11:25 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: JohnHuang2
Frigging brillian JH.

L

4 posted on 07/01/2006 12:13:31 AM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Hey, Long time no read =o)

I missed this great writing.

5 posted on 07/01/2006 12:14:46 AM PDT by GeronL (Bush lost his mojo??)
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To: JohnHuang2

Great, thanks.


6 posted on 07/01/2006 12:21:30 AM PDT by corbe (mystified)
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To: JohnHuang2
As the little boy said, after bringing home a straight "F" report card for the third time...

"Long time, no 'C'..."

( ~groan!~ )
( hattip: Boy's Life, circa 1959 )

Good ta' "C U," John.

7 posted on 07/01/2006 12:26:38 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: JohnHuang2

NY CRIMES - TO WRITE THE PUBLISHER OR PRESIDENT

Arthur Sulzberger Jr., Chairman & Publisher:
publisher@nytimes.com.

Scott H. Heekin-Canedy, President, General Manager
president@nytimes.com.


8 posted on 07/01/2006 12:29:51 AM PDT by Exton1
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To: JohnHuang2


Heads up
We're going in!
9 posted on 07/01/2006 12:32:24 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: JohnHuang2
Great Post John, I wish I could effect their bottom line, really hurt them in the pocketbook. Amen.
10 posted on 07/01/2006 1:21:44 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: JohnHuang2

Well said!


11 posted on 07/01/2006 2:18:27 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: JohnHuang2

It's hard out here on a hag.

12 posted on 07/01/2006 2:30:42 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: JohnHuang2

The NEW YORK TIMES...You would think the paper from the city where 3,000 beings died in an unprovoked attack on America would put the left wing radical nonsense in the deep freeze.
Guess again folks...who's the enemy here?


13 posted on 07/01/2006 2:47:47 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"You would think the paper from the city where 3,000 beings died in an unprovoked attack on America would put the left wing radical nonsense in the deep freeze."

Evidently not.

14 posted on 07/01/2006 3:01:41 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

looks like the treason sinkhole of the left to me!


15 posted on 07/01/2006 3:49:37 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: JohnHuang2

I loved your 2 cents.


We need to honor the threat presented by the NY Times.


16 posted on 07/01/2006 3:58:57 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: JohnHuang2

The NYT editors originally said said they had to go public because it's the public's right to know about such a secret program. They have since changed that excuse to the fact that there is no harm in their reporting on this program because everyone knew about it anyway. So which one is it?

Civil rights groups certainly didn't know about it. But they do now and are threatening to sue the financial institutions involved in the EU.

Co-Chairman of the 9/11 Commission Kean said that very few people even in the banking world know about SWIFT and how it works, and almost no one would have had any idea that the US was able to get access to this data.

Kean further said that: "The terrorists didn't know the financial transactions went through this one group. Treasury told me, this was a method of financial tracking that people didn't understand, that nobody knew this was how things were done. Top-notch people in the US didn't even know."


17 posted on 07/01/2006 4:10:46 AM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Given how fast its circulation is falling, outing top secret programs could be part of the paper's drive to sign up new al-Qaeda subscribers to offset the loss....

I propose that we redeploy the New York Times to a maximum-security U.S. penitentiary. No, this ain't a "pull out," just a redeployment. Change to succeed. Change their location to the slammer until they give up their "source" or "sources." You have a better chance at success. And yes, let's have a strict timetable -- let's have the leaker or leakers face a redeployed firing squad by no later than two years ago.
--JohnHuang2

Excellent, John.

Several points:

  1. Disseminators (especially forewarned disseminators) of the leakers' leaks are leakers, too.
  2. Thus, plug 'em all. That's the only sure way to plug the leaks. In fact, plugging the disseminator is arguably the more effective remedy.
  3. Now that the Times has--AGAIN--blown the cover on another of America's effective terrorist-nabbing/ terror-thwarting tools, it's only fair for Pinch, Keller et al. to hand over its newly compiled list of terrorists and terrorist sympathizers. That is to say, it's only fair that the Times give its new subscriber list to Bush.

"What is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary."

James Madison


 

When the founders granted 'The Press' special dispensation, they never considered the possibility that traitors in our midst would game the system. But that is precisely what is happening today. (Hate America? Support jihad? Become a 'journalist!')

This was bound to happen.

The premise behind the First Amendment as it applies to the press--that a vigilant watchdog is necessary, sufficient--indeed, possible--to protect against man's basest instincts--is tautologically flawed: The fox guarding the White House, if you will....

READ MORE

IN A 'PINCH': RETHINKING THE FIRST AMENDMENT
(Which came first, the 'journalist' or the traitor?)

by Mia T, 6.27.06

PINCH SULZBERGER, PEARL HARBOR + TREASON
WHY WE MUST PROSECUTE THE NEW YORK TIMES
by Mia T, 06.26.06

WAR AND TREASON AND THE NEW YORK TIMES
by Mia T, December 29, 2005

 

 


18 posted on 07/01/2006 4:42:00 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Peach
Time and again, when leaks of programs initiated shortly after 911 appear, the person quoted in this article is strangely absent from the discussion... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3387941.stm People forget that in the middle to late 90s when O'Neill was CEO of Alcoa, Bill Clinton interceded on his behalf of Alcoa to get materials being hoarded by Marc Rich when no other aluminum company could get materials. Alcoa was on the rocks and BC bailed them and O'Neill out. PO owed BC big time.

It is strange that now a Google search on related key words returns absolutely nothing on this issue. What I did find was that O'Neill and Clinton are spending a heck of a lot of time together on various initiatives.

19 posted on 07/01/2006 5:10:26 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (There are only a few absolute truths in life, the rest are just opinion.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3387941.stm


20 posted on 07/01/2006 5:11:01 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (There are only a few absolute truths in life, the rest are just opinion.)
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