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Is the US military returning to Vietnam?
Brookes News ^ | 06.12.06 | Dr. Jack Wheeler

Posted on 06/30/2006 9:11:56 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

One of the first things George W. Bush did as his presidency was getting off the ground in 2001was to sign a bilateral trade agreement with Vietnam. Since then, trade between the US and Vietnam has grown 400 percent to $7.8 billion last year. Last week, the US and Vietnam signed an agreement that paves the way for Vietnam to join the WTO, the World Trade Organization.

On Monday, June 5, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was in Hanoi meeting Vietnam's Defense Minister Pham Van Tra and Prime Minister Phan Van Khai. Noting that a US Navy ship will soon be visiting a Vietnamese port for the fourth time in four years, a reporter asked Rummy if the US was seeking basing rights in Vietnam.

"We have no plans for access to military facilities in Vietnam," was Rummy's reply. When diplomacy requires it, Rumsfeld can lie with the best of them. For the very purpose of his Hanoi sojourn was to discuss just such access. His meetings, and all the cooperation that proceeded it have been in preparation for one announcement.

This November, President Bush will go on a state visit to Vietnam. On November 18, he will address the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit hosted by Vietnam in Hanoi. During this visit, it will be announced that the United States Navy will once again have an operating base at Cam Ranh Bay.

Cam Ranh Bay was the major port facility of the US Armed Forces during the Vietnam War. It is one of the finest seaports in the world. After communist North Vietnam conquered South Vietnam in 1975, the Soviets moved in to establish there the largest Soviet naval base in the world outside the Warsaw Pact. In a little noticed prelude for this November's announcement, Hanoi kicked the Russians out of Cam Ranh Bay in 2002. Now we're going back in.

The Left may still be stuck in ‘Nam, but GW isn't. Our loss there is history and he doesn't dwell on it. He knows that war with America is a short blip on Vietnam's historical screen - a war that lasted a few short years while for over a thousand years Vietnam fought to gain its freedom from China.

Various tribes known as Viet had established a kingdom in the Red River delta back in the 6th century BC. In 111 BC, Han Chinese troops invaded and conquered the Viet kingdom. Over the centuries, the Viets refused assimilation and periodically rebelled against Chinese colonial rule. Finally, at the battle of Bach Dang in 937 AD, the Chinese were defeated and Vietnam became free once again.

After 1,048 years of colonial enslavement, the Vietnamese have hated the Chinese ever since. Today they are far more worried about Chinese imperialism than American imperialism - especially since Red China claims their entire front yard, the South China Sea, as Chinese territorial waters.

Cam Ranh Bay looks out upon the South China Sea. The US Navy based in Cam Ranh Bay along with the increasingly powerful Indian Navy is what Vietnam needs to protect itself from China.

I first gave you a heads-up on this a year ago last June in The Indo-China Con. It will give you all the background, plus the appropriate maps. GW has been planning this for a long time. It's a good example of his geopolitical genius. In our anger over his seemingly inexplicable faults regarding our borders, government spending and the like, we can blind ourselves to his virtues. This we must not do.

Bush had a containment plan for China from the beginning of his presidency, a series of military alliances surrounding China. It's working with Japan and India, it hasn't worked with Putin's Russia. Now it seems that an alliance with Vietnam is falling into place. If there is ever a military confrontation between China and the US, it will be somewhere between the Formosa Strait and the Spratly Islands (see the map in The Indo-China Con).

The best way to head off such a confrontation is a strong US Navy presence in the region at the ready. The place to have it is Cam Ranh Bay. Such a base is the best way to prevent war, not provoke it. Is America ready to accept a military alliance with Vietnam, still governed by the Ho Chi Minh Commies? If you react in disgust, still bitter about our loss to them, then just think about how much this will mind-screw the Left.

The Vietnamese Commies in an alliance with America against Red China? It will rattle the Left's cage like you can't believe. Bush will have turned the Left's great victory over America in Vietnam into a victory for America. The Left won't be able to use the trauma of defeat in ‘Nam as a weapon any more. The Vietnam War will at last finally be over, and the Left will have lost it.

George Bush understands all of this, and is doing all of this on slow methodical purpose. Even the timing of the announcement is on purpose - after the November elections. It will take a little while for the brilliance of this to sink in, and he's not about to startle the voter-horses before Election Day.

So now's a good time to begin our reassessment of George W. Bush. We've had our winter of discontent with him and winter's long gone. We're deep into spring and it's time to start thinking anew. Time to bury past traumas. Time to appreciate GW. Time to go back to ‘Nam.

PS: For those with any lingering doubts, recall the words of Henry John Temple (1784-1865), better known to history as Lord Palmerston, who observed while Prime Minister of England in the late 1850s: "Nations have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies. Only permanent interests."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: camranhbay; china; militarybases; southeastasia; usmilitary; vietnam
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1 posted on 06/30/2006 9:11:57 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten

Trade with VietNam = OK

Trade with Cuba = Not OK.

Anyone else see the hypocrisy here?


2 posted on 06/30/2006 9:13:10 AM PDT by Sometimes A River (Miami Heat 2006 World Champions!)
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To: Dr. Marten

Irony of ironies.


3 posted on 06/30/2006 9:15:05 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Sometimes A River

One reason: Castro.


4 posted on 06/30/2006 9:16:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Dr. Marten

Last week, the US and Vietnam signed an agreement that paves the way for Vietnam to join the WTO, the World Trade Organization.
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Our globalist is at it again -- the sooner we get these utopian ONE WORLD elitists out of Washington, the better off this country will be. (wishful thinking, I know).

Oh, did I see Billy Jeff sticking his big nose around the corner again??


5 posted on 06/30/2006 9:17:11 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Dr. Marten

Aren't there Vietnam vacations available now?......


6 posted on 06/30/2006 9:17:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: EagleUSA
Oh, did I see Billy Jeff sticking his big nose around the corner again??

You sure it was his nose?

7 posted on 06/30/2006 9:17:51 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

.......and a whole lot of ex-pat Cuban voters in FL.........


8 posted on 06/30/2006 9:18:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah. Have been for at least a decade.


9 posted on 06/30/2006 9:18:34 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Sometimes A River
If you react in disgust, still bitter about our loss to them,

You know, the article makes a lot of sense but for some reason, it just sits all wrong with me.
10 posted on 06/30/2006 9:18:47 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

One will not find a greater proponent of the US trade embargo and travel ban than Castro.


11 posted on 06/30/2006 9:19:04 AM PDT by Sometimes A River (Miami Heat 2006 World Champions!)
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To: Grampa Dave; BIGLOOK
To Ping or not to ping, that is the ¿
12 posted on 06/30/2006 9:19:08 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: Dr. Marten

Why is this taking so long? Should have been back 15 years ago.


13 posted on 06/30/2006 9:19:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Rembrandt; ASA Vet; Grampa Dave
Cam Ranh is rather nice this time of year......ping
14 posted on 06/30/2006 9:20:17 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: COBOL2Java

You sure it was his nose?
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Yeah, because it was STRAIGHT!!! LMFAO !!!


15 posted on 06/30/2006 9:23:58 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Dr. Marten

I know that Vietnam is slowly moving towards free markets but unless they moved towards democracy we shouldnt be dealing with them...at all..sounds like if Vietnam trully is afraid of a Imperial China they would be more than happy to barter freedoms for protection from the USA.


16 posted on 06/30/2006 9:24:21 AM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: ASA Vet
I think so

News recently of Chicom subs (Kilos) roaming, behooves US to deal for a forward Naval station.
17 posted on 06/30/2006 9:25:25 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

1980 Mariel Boatlift..........


18 posted on 06/30/2006 9:31:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; ...

MI Ping


19 posted on 06/30/2006 9:34:15 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: aft_lizard
I know that Vietnam is slowly moving towards free markets but unless
they moved towards democracy we shouldnt be dealing with them...


I agree.
At the same time, I think Vietnam is being slowly, but surely worn
down as a real Communist state.
I've just noticed tidbits in the news over the years...e.g.,

American dairy men getting the Vietnam dairy system going again
(thanks to the French and Americans, Vietnam has a taste for dairy
products unlike most Asian countries)

Opening of decadent golf courses and banking systems (as reported in
The Los Angeles Times over the years)

and the rock-star turnout for Bill Gates a few months ago when he
visited Vietnam (even the Communist Party bigwigs took a break from
a major meeting to see him).

I get the feeling those Communist Party members sit around a table
asking each other "Remind me Comrade...who won the war?"
20 posted on 06/30/2006 9:34:20 AM PDT by VOA
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