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Superman eschews longtime patriot act
The Hollywood Reporter ^ | 6/30/06 | Tatiana Siegel

Posted on 06/30/2006 8:01:53 AM PDT by Roberts

Nevermind Superman's sexual orientation. Here's another identity-related question that is likely to spark controversy as the Man of Steel soars into theaters nationwide this Fourth of July weekend in Warner Bros. Pictures' "Superman Returns": Is Superman still American?

Ever since artist Joe Shuster and writer Jerry Siegel created the granddaddy of all comic book icons in 1932, Superman has fought valiantly to preserve "truth, justice and the American way." Whether kicking Nazi ass on the radio in the '40s or wrapping himself in the Stars and Stripes on TV during the Cold War or even rescuing the White House's flag as his final feat in "Superman II," the Krypton-born, Smallville-raised Ubermensch always has been steeped in unmistakable U.S. symbolism.

But in the latest film incarnation, scribes Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris sought to downplay Superman's long-standing patriot act. With one brief line uttered by actor Frank Langella, the caped superhero's mission transformed from "truth, justice and the American way" to "truth, justice and all that stuff."

"The world has changed. The world is a different place," Pennsylvania native Harris says. "The truth is he's an alien. He was sent from another planet. He has landed on the planet Earth, and he is here for everybody. He's an international superhero."

In fact, Dougherty and Harris never even considered including "the American way" in their screenplay. After the wunderkind writing duo ("X2: X-Men United") conceived "Superman's" story with director Bryan Singer during a Hawaiian vacation, they penned their first draft together and intentionally omitted what they considered to be a loaded and antiquated expression. That decision stood throughout the 140-day shoot in Australia, where the pair remained on-set to provide revisions and tweaks.

"We were always hesitant to include the term 'American way' because the meaning of that today is somewhat uncertain," Ohio native Dougherty explains. "The ideal hasn't changed. I think when people say 'American way,' they're actually talking about what the 'American way' meant back in the '40s and '50s, which was something more noble and idealistic."

While audiences in Dubuque might bristle at Superman's newfound global agenda, patrons in Dubai likely will find the DC Comics protagonist more palatable. And with the increasing importance of the overseas boxoffice -- as evidenced by summer tentpoles like "The Da Vinci Code" -- foreign sensibilities can no longer be ignored.

"So, you play the movie in a foreign country, and you say, 'What does he stand for? -- truth, justice and the American way.' I think a lot of people's opinions of what the American way means outside of this country are different from what the line actually means (in Superman lore) because they are not the same anymore," Harris says. "And (using that line) would taint the meaning of what he is saying."

But for Superman purists looking for a nod to the big blue Boy Scout's nationalistic loyalties, he is still saving Americans, albeit many with suspiciously Aussie accents. He foils Lex Luthor's nefarious plan to send millions from the nation's heartland to a watery death. And in his most impressive scene, the hero saves the day while a plane hurtles toward a baseball stadium full of fans enjoying America's pastime. Although there is no indication that it is an American baseball game depicted, the scene was one of the few shot on U.S. soil, at Dodger Stadium.

Nevertheless, the long-standing member of the Justice League of America seems to have traded in his allegiance to the flag for an international passport.

"He's here for humanity," Dougherty says.


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To: Roberts
"The ideal hasn't changed. I think when people say 'American way,' they're actually talking about what the 'American way' meant back in the '40s and '50s, which was something more noble and idealistic."

Let's see...back in the 40s and 50s we stood up to the Nazis, Japanese bullies, and communists with the intent to set people free of terrorism and brutal dictatorships. We spread democracy, set up military bases in foreign nations, and laid out plans and rules for those nations to reform and rejoin the fold of the free world. We also had the balls to use nukes when necessary, put people in camps who we suspected were our enemy, and tried and convicted people for treason. Agreed, those were much more noble days. Sounds like these Hollywood losers don't understand the truth they speak.
41 posted on 06/30/2006 8:33:19 AM PDT by itslex71 (southern by birth, republican by the grace of my dad)
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To: Roberts
"The world has changed. The world is a different place," Pennsylvania native Harris says. "The truth is he's an alien. He was sent from another planet. He has landed on the planet Earth, and he is here for everybody. He's an international superhero."

"Mr. Harris, an illegal can never be considered an American."

"You wicked, wicked person! Take it back!"

I believe it has been retconned that Supes *was* born in America anyway. He was a matrix and only became a person when the pod was opened, or some damn thing.

Not surprised these guys wrote X2. The contempt for the military seemed apparent. I couldn't stand that movie.
42 posted on 06/30/2006 8:33:24 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Huck
Pathetic. But Superman always looked like a homo anway. Batman was way cooler, albeit a psycho.

Until George Clooney brought nipples to the Batsuit...
43 posted on 06/30/2006 8:34:06 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Roberts
Forget "Superman" and bring on "Miracleman"...

The "Overman" has come, and boy, is he pissed off...

44 posted on 06/30/2006 8:37:32 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: beezdotcom

"Pathetic. But Superman always looked like a homo anway. Batman was way cooler, albeit a psycho.

Until George Clooney brought nipples to the Batsuit..."

Well we know he couldn't add brains or cahoneys! I guess a little nip was the best he had to offer.....


45 posted on 06/30/2006 8:38:29 AM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: Caipirabob
Spoiler: For anyone curious about Miracleman, the above scene concludes just as you would imagine it should...
46 posted on 06/30/2006 8:38:37 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Roberts

Last straw. Not going to see it.


47 posted on 06/30/2006 8:39:52 AM PDT by rjp2005
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To: Roberts
"So, you play the movie in a foreign country, and you say, 'What does he stand for? -- truth, justice and the American way.' I think a lot of people's opinions of what the American way means outside of this country are different from what the line actually means (in Superman lore) because they are not the same anymore," Harris says. "And (using that line) would taint the meaning of what he is saying."

This is nothing more than self-justifying hypocracy. With regard to other, more trivial aspects of the Superman mythos, these same "creators" have shamelessly claimed and touted their faithfullness to Superman "canon", yet they deliberately choose to undermine this major, essential component of that same canon.

As far as foreign audiences are concerned, their opinion of what "the American way" means is irrelevant. In a movie about Superman, what is supposed to matter is what Superman thinks it means. It is the responsibility of the movie's creators to convey that meaning to the audience through their portrayal of the character, not to redesign the character to pander to their audience's ideology.

Of course, it's their movie - they have the right to do it however they please. However, we also have the right to point out their self-serving hypocracy and disingenuousness. Their protestations of and claims of faithfullness to the Superman canon/legend are rendered hollow by their cynical, transparent manipulations.

48 posted on 06/30/2006 8:42:18 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Caipirabob
When good heros go bad...

To Todd McFarlan: "FREE MIRACLEMAN!"

49 posted on 06/30/2006 8:43:12 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Roberts

The Democrats are the party of "do not question my patriotism!" So why is it that--just knowing what I know from reading the article--I can state with a degree of certainty that these writers are liberal democrats?


50 posted on 06/30/2006 8:43:42 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Huck

Um, Batman lived in a house with a young boy he wasn't related to. Kinda odd, don't you think.


51 posted on 06/30/2006 8:46:34 AM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: gdani

actually, some retelling of Superman myths in Comics in the last few year have him technically born on earth in Kansas. He was sent to earth in an artificial womb which was standard practice on Krypton and was birthed after it reached Earth.

Actually the whole, "American way" stuff has been going on for a few years in the comic books also, they mentioned the Justice League of America in the Article but a few years ago, the Justice League of America was changed to JLA because they didn't want the word America used because it might offend some.


52 posted on 06/30/2006 8:46:35 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: VegasCowboy

I was surprised by how angry my husband was when he found out of the line omission. He refuses to see it now.


53 posted on 06/30/2006 8:47:35 AM PDT by Hildy (Change calls the tune we dance to.)
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To: eXe

Can I have your tickets?


54 posted on 06/30/2006 8:47:49 AM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: chae

I guess yer right. I was thinking of the first Batman movie. No Robin in that one. He hooks up with Kim Basinger.


55 posted on 06/30/2006 8:49:44 AM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: beezdotcom

I guess so. I didn't see that one. Matter of fact, only one I saw was the first one in 89.


56 posted on 06/30/2006 8:50:11 AM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: Roberts

Won't be seeing this until its on "free" tv, and maybe not even then.

It's all about the $$$$ for Follywood.


57 posted on 06/30/2006 8:51:00 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: Roberts

If they are unsure, HERE is one compelling component of what "The American Way" is...

http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://sagebrushpatriot.com/america.htm

Narrated by John Wayne...nearly brought tears to my eyes. And this is only the physical component.


58 posted on 06/30/2006 8:51:27 AM PDT by rlmorel (John Murtha: Out of touch, Out of His Mind. Lets make him Out of Congress! DIANA IREY FOR CONGRESS!)
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To: jbwbubba; gdani
a few years ago, the Justice League of America was changed to JLA because they didn't want the word America used because it might offend some.

Sort of like the way Kentucky Fried Chicken was changed to KFC. Musn't offend those chickens...

59 posted on 06/30/2006 8:53:38 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: jbwbubba
actually, some retelling of Superman myths in Comics in the last few year have him technically born on earth in Kansas.

99% of retcons suck. And now massive retcons seem to be the only way DC can sell comics.

but a few years ago, the Justice League of America was changed to JLA because they didn't want the word America used because it might offend some

Where did you hear that? And, if so, then why will Justice League America #1, a new title, be released in August 2006?

60 posted on 06/30/2006 8:54:53 AM PDT by gdani
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