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Baby found dead in vehicle. Mother apparently forgot to drop off baby at day care.
grandfolksherald.com ^ | Thu, Jun. 29, 2006 | Lisa Gibson

Posted on 06/29/2006 1:07:30 PM PDT by rawhide

A 5-month-old baby died in a minivan Wednesday after the mother apparently forgot to drop the child off at day care.

The tragedy was discovered about 5:30 p.m. outside the Wonder Years 2 day care. The baby's mother stopped at the day care after work to pick up the child and was told by staff that the baby had not been dropped off. She realized then that the baby had been in her minivan all day.

"The mother had forgotten to drop off the child at day care in the morning," said Curt Kreun, owner of Wonder Years 2. "She actually came in the building to pick up the child and then realized what had happened."

The child was in a car seat in the back of the vehicle, according to Sgt. Jeff Burgess of the Grand Forks Police Department. A Wonder Years 2 staff member made the 911 call, according to Kreun.

(Excerpt) Read more at grandforks.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: baby; daycare; died; forgot; infantdeath; nd; van
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To: beeler
Someone who chooses to raise their children themselves is looking down from a pedestal? So all the millions of people who raised their own children prior to the age of personal gratification at all costs were also on said pedestal?

No, just the pat-myself-on-the back types, like you seem to be.

You know, the ones who do stupid things like refer to everyone who doesn't see the world through their glasses as "monsters".

Just those.

401 posted on 06/30/2006 7:45:36 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: soccermom

Ok , my mistake..Now , " She thought she had dropped the child off " I still don't get it , unless your a total no mind how can you THINK you dropped your baby off somewhere ? I'm sorry I still can't wrap my mind around the though of being THAT distracted that you dont know what you did with your baby..


402 posted on 06/30/2006 7:51:48 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: fishbabe

So with the new car seats you have to open the back door and LOOK and CHECK that the kids are there and ok ..Whats the big deal then ? Gues it's a lot of trouble to go look , easier to assume they are fine .


403 posted on 06/30/2006 7:54:11 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: brothers4thID
This kind- the kind who had to chose between serving her country- and oh btw you too- or staying at home with the baby. I chose a reputable caregiver.

If a woman wants to truly serve her country, she should forgo military service and stay home and raise her child(ren).
404 posted on 06/30/2006 7:59:30 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: mewzilla
If the parents responsible were prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, I'll bet memories would improve nationwide...

I rather doubt that, simply because I have to think 99.44% of all those parents are punishing themselves enough already. I'd be surprised if the publicity of putting them in prison is going to make any other parents think, "Gee, I'd better not forget my baby in the car. Otherwise, I'll end up in prison."

No, if publicity is what's needed, it should be in the form of PSAs on billboards, TV, in newspapers, magazines, etc. In my opinion, this cause is a lot more worthy than the "conserve water," "don't eat tuna," and "global warning" cr*p put out by the Ad Council these days.

405 posted on 06/30/2006 8:02:42 AM PDT by newgeezer
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To: wtc911
Maybe a woman who found herself pregnant, decided against abortion and is juggling more than she can handle. Stupid, unlucky, yep but a monster? That's kind of arrogant.

Perhaps, but from the sound of things, this wasn't such a woman...rather a 34 year old advertising executive with her first child who I seriously doubt would ever forget about a business meeting.
406 posted on 06/30/2006 8:12:34 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: All

I expect it won't be too long before our all-knowing, all-caring Federal government will mandate some sort of baby detection and survival system for all passenger cars. Maybe it will be some kind of solar- and/or battery-powered ventilation system.


407 posted on 06/30/2006 8:14:13 AM PDT by newgeezer
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To: cspackler
People who don't want to involve themselves with the raising of their children when it is indeed possible are undoubtedly monsters.
408 posted on 06/30/2006 8:38:50 AM PDT by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: Tiberius109

This tragedy can't be publicized too much or too often. Bump to pass the word.


409 posted on 06/30/2006 8:54:05 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Alouette

You totally misunderstand what I'm saying. In fact, you prove the point that a family with children can make it on one relatively low income. My response that you commented on was directed to someone who implied that it was *necessary* to have a second income when there are kids in the home. Here's what that person said:

"Some people do not have the affluence to take months off of work to care for a small one."

Were you "affluent" when you raised 5 kids on one salary? Doubt it. But you did so because you felt working with them was more important than working outside the home.

What I'm saying is that it's not *necessary* for most women today to work outside the home if they don't really want to. They often choose to do so, though, to support their lifestyle, daycare expenses, and ancillary expenses. Some also choose to work outside the home to get away from the responsibility of raising the kids (which is difficult -- ask my wife).

Women who want to stay home with the kids should be presented with the facts -- that in most cases they can do so if they want.


410 posted on 06/30/2006 9:16:21 AM PDT by Theo
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To: Delphinium

It's all really quite sad how the unnecessary and unwanted laws give way to irresponsible behavior on the part of individuals. And it's all just to line some pockets with a few $$$$ at the expense of our children!

And it's sad but true. These parents need to feel guilty. It will not stop until the guilt is so overwhelming, they actually put aside their own needs and tend to the young and helpless. That poor child no longer has the opportunity to feel guilty. It was the mom's responsibility to protect that child. However, I'm sure the child is much safer in God's hands than the irresponsible mom's.


411 posted on 06/30/2006 9:23:27 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: newgeezer
I'd be surprised if the publicity of putting them in prison is going to make any other parents think, "Gee, I'd better not forget my baby in the car. Otherwise, I'll end up in prison."

I'd like to try it and see :)

412 posted on 06/30/2006 9:26:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Good tagline. John Adams and all those other fellas were doing their homework when they put our constitution together. It definitely applies to the young and helpless(the 5 month old baby being debated).


413 posted on 06/30/2006 9:40:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Tiberius109
I still don't get it , unless your a total no mind how can you THINK you dropped your baby off somewhere ? I'm sorry I still can't wrap my mind around the though of being THAT distracted that you dont know what you did with your baby..

I think it is mainly force of habit. I've never left my babies in a car, but I have gotten on the highway towards school when I meant to go to the grocery store. I've never actually driven completely to the wrong place before realizing my mistake, but I imagine some people have.

My children were with me nearly 24/7 for the first 5 years of each of their lives. Very occasionally, I would be at the store without them. Several times, I whirled around in a panic searching for my boys only to remember that they were home with dad. I didn't really forget what I had done with them, but for a few moments I assumed they were with me because that was the normal state of things.

414 posted on 06/30/2006 10:01:42 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: justche

I agree totally. I will never get these stories.


415 posted on 06/30/2006 10:06:43 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: M0sby

I wouldn't bother trying to explain your family living choices to this crowd. In their eyes any woman who doesn't stay at home and raise her kids is a monster.
Actually I think they are entitled to their point of view when it comes to THEIR families. When it comes to YOUR family the choices and consequences are your business.

(Busybodies... never could stand 'em).


416 posted on 06/30/2006 10:13:52 AM PDT by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: rawhide
It's interesting to see the DUmmy take on this. A similar mix of sympathy and condemnation directed to the mother, but no argument on daycare.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1532625

Boy, it's really annoying that they don't have a search feature there.

417 posted on 06/30/2006 10:30:41 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Under Sharia law it would have to be the father who was neglectful. I sincerely doubt that a woman would be driving.

I never said she was not being emotionally punished. Unless we know her personally, we can only speculate. It would be more horrific if she had no conscience about it at all, wouldn't it? My point was some sort of LEGAL punishment because her neglect resulted in more than an 'accident'. A human being is dead. Does it matter less because its her own baby or because she was going to work?

I'm also interested in your answering my other questions instead of indulging in personal insults. How is this different from a woman not watching her child, which plunges out of a tenement window? Or a daycare driver forgetting a child in a van? Would that person be held accountable legally?
So you think sterilization is extreme. How about depriving her of her driving license ,if not her reproductive ability? Or would that be too terribly harsh?


418 posted on 06/30/2006 10:53:24 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Tiberius109

One of the freepers had a good idea..she said start putting your purse or briefcase back there and then you always check the back seat..Great Idea!!!!!!!!


419 posted on 06/30/2006 1:48:43 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: beeler

I stayed home to raise my child, but I don't look down my nose at those who work for a living. I'm not under the false impression that I was so blessed because I'm better than everyone else. I was blessed by the grace of God, not by my own deeds. You are not better than the people who work to support their families. With your attitude, I'm more inclined to believe you're not fit to lick their boots.


420 posted on 06/30/2006 2:27:35 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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