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Supreme Court Blocks Guantanamo Bay War-Crimes Trials (SCOTUS rules against President)
Fox News & AP ^ | June 29, 2006

Posted on 06/29/2006 7:11:53 AM PDT by pabianice

Edited on 06/29/2006 7:41:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Breaking...


Update:

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies.

Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the opinion, which said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and Geneva conventions.

The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a body guard and driver for Usama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo...

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To: jamiefoxer

Please tell me you don't vote and/or have a drivers license.


581 posted on 06/29/2006 9:12:26 AM PDT by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: IMRight
He had to. It was his decision they were ruling on.

In my opinion that makes him informed about the case rather than biased. I don't think he should have to recuse himself. He should recuse himself if there is something that might lead him to not rule according to the law and the Constitution. Having formed a legal opinion based on the facts presented in the case is not something that should interfere with his duty.

582 posted on 06/29/2006 9:12:26 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Mo1
Call me skeptical .. but I don't trust Graham .. nor McCain on any bills

Me either. Maybe Senator Sessions will take the lead. One can hope.

583 posted on 06/29/2006 9:12:28 AM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: Steve_Seattle

Why did the U.S. Supreme Court approve of Dred Scott's making of blacks 3/5ths' of a person. Why did SCOTUS approve Plessy v. Ferguson and Jim Crow laws?

We are fallible beings...we make mistakes...

Barring the President from taking powers close to dictatorship is not one of them. Trust me guys...SCOTUS stood for our liberties, for our values, and our democracy today.

And we still can deal with terrorists by:

Procedures to follow, in a nutshell.

If Al-Qaeda, try, prove, find guilty or innocent, and either IMPRISON (if guilty) or release (if innocent).
If legitimate POW, hold in appropriate facility humanely with oversight from Congress and SCOTUS, and release after end of our wars.

Simple LEGAL procedures we can follow that maintain our national security AND maintain our rule of law/values.


584 posted on 06/29/2006 9:13:35 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: xsmommy
what is a legal studies major? an undergraduate majoring in PRELAW?

That's what it sounds like to me, lol.

585 posted on 06/29/2006 9:13:53 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: untrained skeptic

any member of an appellate tribunal is required to recuse him/herself from consideration of an opinion rendered by him/her below.


586 posted on 06/29/2006 9:14:02 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: KavMan

because I disagree?

and they say liberals are the ones that cannot tolerate dissent within their ranks.


587 posted on 06/29/2006 9:14:08 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: mware

thanks...I appreciate the warning.

I think I'll use my critical mind to decide who to argue with or not..thanks..


588 posted on 06/29/2006 9:14:42 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: xsmommy

I welcome learning from them. Thanks!


589 posted on 06/29/2006 9:15:03 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer

if i were you, i would try to listen to Mark Levin's show today. i am sure he will address this issue and i am fairly certain he will not see it the same way you do.


590 posted on 06/29/2006 9:16:06 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: jamiefoxer

It is the only argument.

If we do not survive, your arguments mean nothing.


591 posted on 06/29/2006 9:16:14 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: hsrazorback1

Technically, no... However, Article 66 of the Constitution (I believe it's 66) allows the government to hold enemy combatants, without prosecution, until the cessation of hostilities... Which is what the administration has said all along.


592 posted on 06/29/2006 9:16:14 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

so it did with those that agreed with Dred Scott and Plessy V. Ferguson.

Doesn't make it right...

Every President, Republican, Democrat, or Whig, did stuff that was wrong, illegal, or later reviewed to be considered inappropriate...

Doesn't mean we just look the other way to it.

I believe SCOTUS defended our liberties from an encroaching Executive Branch today...no conservative or liberal "bias" here..I'm just posting as a patriot what I believe..that's all. No one needs to get offended.


593 posted on 06/29/2006 9:16:36 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer
If he wasn't, too bad for the values of our enemy...

IF... for God's sake he was beheaded, had his internal organs ripped out his body, had his eyes gouged out, and his private parts cut off.

594 posted on 06/29/2006 9:16:46 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: xsmommy

ok...fair enough. I welcome your points of views.


595 posted on 06/29/2006 9:16:56 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer

"Where do you stand today?"

That is the point... whether we will be standing at the end at all. If we are, then we can ruminate about platitudes.

First, to win (and thus, survive). And that, by any means possible.


596 posted on 06/29/2006 9:17:06 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: pbrown

no argument there...just insults.

moving along...


597 posted on 06/29/2006 9:17:14 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: freedumb2003

insults...no argument.

Moving along...


598 posted on 06/29/2006 9:17:45 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: pbrown

guilt by association, anyone?

moving along...


599 posted on 06/29/2006 9:18:15 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer

But you didn't deny it. lol


600 posted on 06/29/2006 9:18:20 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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