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To: Steve_Seattle

Why did the U.S. Supreme Court approve of Dred Scott's making of blacks 3/5ths' of a person. Why did SCOTUS approve Plessy v. Ferguson and Jim Crow laws?

We are fallible beings...we make mistakes...

Barring the President from taking powers close to dictatorship is not one of them. Trust me guys...SCOTUS stood for our liberties, for our values, and our democracy today.

And we still can deal with terrorists by:

Procedures to follow, in a nutshell.

If Al-Qaeda, try, prove, find guilty or innocent, and either IMPRISON (if guilty) or release (if innocent).
If legitimate POW, hold in appropriate facility humanely with oversight from Congress and SCOTUS, and release after end of our wars.

Simple LEGAL procedures we can follow that maintain our national security AND maintain our rule of law/values.


584 posted on 06/29/2006 9:13:35 AM PDT by jamiefoxer
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To: jamiefoxer

To say that Bush has assumed powers close to "dictatorship" is bull****. He is dealing with a handful of irregular soldiers captured in a war zone, and who are allied with a terrorist organization that attacked the U.S. on several occasions. If Bush were a dictator, he would have ordered them shot, end of the matter. He wouldn't have had lengthy consultations with his legal staff regarding precedent and the pertinent laws and treaties, and he wouldn't have waited for the Supreme Court to rule. I am really sickened by this casual, flippant use of the word "dictatorship."


636 posted on 06/29/2006 9:26:45 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: jamiefoxer
Why did the U.S. Supreme Court approve of Dred Scott's making of blacks 3/5ths' of a person.

Wow! That's an astounding display of "No clue whatsoever of what you are talking about". Astounding especially for someone who claims SOME training in law, but even for one who doesn't.

You'll find that generally I'm pretty even-keeled and dispationate in my posts, so take this in accordance:

Grow up. Learn to read. Read what you are commenting on. When you make references, at least be familiar with them. Realize that things have a context and learn about that context.

You've shown that you have so little clue of what you are talking about that it would take perhaps years to teach you. I'm done for now.

711 posted on 06/29/2006 9:49:39 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: jamiefoxer
Simple LEGAL procedures we can follow that maintain our national security AND maintain our rule of law/values.Wow, you mean ACLU type justice whos clear goal is undermine and deconstruct the Constitution? We have a couple of those on the court right now. Tell Me just how the hell does this help our citizens which is THE ONLY obligation of our constitution and laws and rights? IT DOESN'T! Not one iota. You apparently value the worlds opinion that clearly changes not on set law but whims and feelings at that time. This court clearly did not have our citizens in mind with this decision. Thank God for the 2nd admenment we just might be needing it soon to re establish a lawful Constitutional Government.
759 posted on 06/29/2006 10:38:53 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: jamiefoxer
Simple LEGAL procedures we can follow that maintain our national security AND maintain our rule of law/values.

Wow, you mean ACLU type justice who's clear goal is undermine and deconstruct the Constitution? We have a couple of those on the court right now. Tell Me just how the hell does this help our citizens which is THE ONLY obligation of our constitution and laws and rights? IT DOESN'T! Not one iota. You apparently value the worlds opinion that clearly changes not on set law but whims and feelings at that time. This court clearly did not have our citizens in mind with this decision. Thank God for the 2nd amendment we just might be needing it soon to re establish a lawful Constitutional Government.

763 posted on 06/29/2006 10:42:08 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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