Jacob Concedes [referendum on immigration issue], Cannon Moves on to General Election

KSL TV ^ | 27 June 2006

[Spiff]

Jacobs Concedes, Cannon Moves on to General Election

June 27th, 2006 @ 11:12pm

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- U.S. Rep. Chris Cannon, challenged by a political newcomer who accused the five-term incumbent of being soft on illegal immigration, was leading in Utah's Republican primary Tuesday with more than half of precincts reporting.

Cannon led John Jacob 58 percent to 42 percent, or 19,575 votes to 14,395 votes, with 313 of 623 precincts reporting. That includes 100 percent of returns from Juab, Beaver and Millard counties.

The 3rd Congressional District race focused primarily on who stands taller in opposition to Bush's call for a path to citizenship for some 11 million illegal immigrants.

Cannon voted last December for a House bill that would toughen border security, criminalize people who help illegal immigrants and make being in the U.S. without the required papers a felony. But he also supports Bush's proposal for a guest-worker program and says "there's massive room for negotiation."

Cannon's willingness to compromise made him a target of Team America, a conservative group that calls illegal immigration the most critical problem facing the nation. It spent $40,000 on radio ads criticizing him.

Jacob, a millionaire real-estate developer, favors returning illegal immigrants to their home countries before giving them a shot at U.S. citizenship and punishing businesses for hiring them.

At the state Republican convention last month, Jacob captured 52 percent of the delegate votes while Cannon got 48 percent. Sixty percent was needed to avoid Tuesday's primary.

The winner will face Democrat Christian Burridge, among others, in November in a district that anyone but a Republican has little chance of winning. Bush carried the 3rd District with 77 percent of the vote in 2004.

The sprawling district, which stretches south from Salt Lake County and west to Nevada, is heavily Mormon and predominantly white. Hispanics make up about 10 percent of the population; blacks less than 1 percent.

In 1996, Cannon won the seat, in part by arguing that the Democratic incumbent, U.S. Rep. Bill Orton, was soft on immigration. In 2004, Cannon's actions on the issue prompted conservatives to back Matt Throckmorton, who managed 42 percent in his GOP primary loss.

(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

[Bikers4Bush]

Are you kidding me? He already spoke out in support of the senate version.

Do you know the first thing about him? For God's sake the man was given an award by La Raza. Does that sound like someone who isn't an open border supporter to you?

The whole point behind charging them and convicting them of a felony is to speed up the deportation proceedings and prevent them from obtaining citizenship from that point on. It was never the intent of the felony provision to actually incarcerate them here. It was to be able to speed their return to whatever country they came from.

[MikefromOhio]

So, you worship the public and always accept its wisdom?

Did I say I did? I just find it laughable that, just like the Democrats and DUmmies, when YOUR guy doesn't win, you blame the voters...

And you think immigration is just a "pet issue"?

Again I never said that. Immigration is a problem that needs fixing. However, running a nut against a POPULAR guy with a 100 ACU rating certainly ISN'T the way I'd go about trying to get the issue fixed.

[CWOJackson]

"Also, Cannon is good on almost every other issue, so it certainly was not a "slaughter" for us conservatives."

It wasn't a slaughter for conservatives...it was a slaughter for those who thought they could hold the GOP hostage to their agenda.

[CWOJackson]

"The Pence plan is almost identical to the plan put out by Tancredo."

Tell that to Tancredo. He and his people claim that Pence plan is amnesty...just look at his PAC's website. The difference between the Pence plan and Tancredo's plan now becomes one of credibility and after this Utah debacle Tancredo will probably find it very difficult to find sympathetic ears in Congress while Pence will be looked upon anew as a voice of "reason".

[deport]

Moaning and Groaning .. scroll down for the more recent ones

[ZULU]

Sounds to me like he's soft on illegal invaders.

Were both candidates Mormons?

[CWOJackson]

LOL! Thanks. I love all the one's who say they'll be voting for the Democrat in November...I wonder what their screen names are here?

Have you seen bay buchanan's opus? You'd think she'd be more used to utterly disastrous campaigns.

[DM1]

"Chris Cannon is an Open Borders RINO. The people of his district still don't get it. "
i think it had more to do with the opponent than anything else. this Jacobs guy said some pretty off the wall things and it was revealed that he gave money to some illegal (?) immigrants for something or other
i am not in the state so i am only relaying what i read this morning but if this is true it is understandable that Cannon would win

[flaglady47]

"Who do you think the "king" was in the Billbray race?"

Bilbray was king. The issue was not corruption. The Dems tried to make it that, but failed. The issue was immigration, where Bilbray took a strong anti-illegal immigration stance, and his Dem opponent did not, and in fact was caught on tape saying illegals could help in her election campaign. Think as you like, but you are wrong.

[deport]

Have you seen bay buchanan's opus? You'd think she'd be more used to utterly disastrous campaigns.

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No but haven't been online much today.. Link?

The 'true conservatives' didn't have the numbers they thought or else the 'true conservatives' took their ball and stayed home like many on this forum threaten to do daily. In either case those that were interested spoke and opted to return their five term representative to the General which is tantamount to election in the Utah 3rd.

[CWOJackson]

Here is bay's opus...and the usual spin.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657239/posts

[California Patriot]

Cannon represents almost the most conservative/Republican district in the country. Therefore, a primary bloodbath would not cause the seat to be lost in November. He deserved to lose his job over immigration, and the voters -- conservatives -- didn't care enough about the issue to send him packing.

[MikefromOhio]

Cannon represents almost the most conservative/Republican district in the country. Therefore, a primary bloodbath would not cause the seat to be lost in November. He deserved to lose his job over immigration, and the voters -- conservatives -- didn't care enough about the issue to send him packing.

LOL!!! That's just an absolutely insane statement right there. Now just WHY do you think that happened?

[Candor7]

Why do most polls underestimate Republican turnout in general elections?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Because pols are a Democrat propaganda organ

Message: Stay home Republicans, its no use, you are defeated already!

Buaaaaahahahahahahahahahahah!

That just gets OUT the pubbie voters these days! :)

[dennisw]

Your comment about the Mormon and Catholic hierarchies wanting more members is spot on.
But you better be careful or you will be anathematized for your " hurtful" comments by those who are unwilling to look honestly at their own leaders.

I'll bet there is a greater tendency for lay Catholics to be against open borders than lay Mormons

[Bainbridge]

Could be- I am not sure. I am genuinely interested in your reasons,as I think this is an important topic.

[Candor7]

Amazing how "churches" care more about filling the pews than they do about the thousands upon thousands of Americans killed by illegals since 9/11.>>>>>>>>>>>

In tuth you speak. The Interfaith Council has put billions of dollars into Illegal immigrant assitance over the last twenty years. There is compassion and then there is IDIOT COMPASSION!( a liberal affectation). They are the lobbying group that has The President and the RINOs fawning all over them on illegal aliens! They wage demographic warfare on the United States, under the banner of Marxist socialist Liberation Theology!

Who are they? Take a gander:

http://www.wr.org/ourwork/whatwedo/reform.asp

QUOTE:

We, the undersigned faith-based leaders and organizations, join together to call upon President Bush and our elected officials in Congress to enact comprehensive immigration reform legislation that establishes a safe and humane immigration system consistent with our values. Our diverse faith traditions teach us to welcome our brothers and sisters with love and compassion.

UNQUOTE

The result of the New foundation movement ( its not churches themselves but foundations funded by religious communities) is here, among many religious institutions whose liberal values represent a multicultural agenda, and a complete social change for the United States, and the devolution of our culture of freedom by demographic warfare, by immigrants who have no intended allegiance to the United States or its constitution:

National Organizations:

Anti-Defamation League

American Friends Service Committee (AFSC)

American Jewish Committee

American Jewish Congress

American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA)

B’nai B’rith International

Catholic Legal Immigration Network, Inc. (CLINIC)

Church World Service/Immigration and Refugee Program

The Conference of Major Superiors of Men

Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)

International Catholic Migration Commission

Irish Apostolate, USA

Islamic Circle of North America

Jesuit Conference

Jesuit Refugee Service/USA

Jewish Council for Public Affairs

Jewish Reconstructionist Federation

Jubilee Campaign USA

Justice for Our Neighbors Immigration Clinic Network

La Ermita - The Hermitage

Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service

Mennonite Central Committee U.S. Washington Office

Mexican American Cultural Center

National Council of Jewish Women

National Ministries, American Baptist Churches USA

U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops

Union for Reform Judaism

United Jewish Communities

United Methodist Committee on Relief

United States Province of the Priests of the Sacred Heart

Women In Islam, Inc.

Women’s League for Conservative Judaism

World Relief

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Local Organizations:

Baltimore Jewish Council

Building Bridges: Hispanic Outreach Project Community of St. Anthony Church in Canton, Ohio

Cabrini Immigrant Services, Dobbs Ferry, New York

Cabrini Immigrant Services, New York, New York

California Province of the Society of Jesus Capuchin Province of St. Joseph, Detroit, Michigan

Catholic Charities Diocese of Des Moines

Catholic Charities Diocese of San Diego

Catholic Charities Hawaii

Catholic Charities Health and Human Services, Diocese of Cleveland

Catholic Charities Housing Opportunities (CCHO), Youngstown, Ohio

Catholic Charities in the Archdiocese of Santa Fe, New Mexico

Catholic Charities in the Diocese of Paterson, New Jersey

Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Arlington, Virginia

Catholic Charities of Tennessee, Inc.

Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston, Texas

Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington

Catholic Migration Office of the Diocese of Brooklyn, New York

Catholic Social Services in Anchorage, Alaska

Clerics of St. Viator, Chicago Province

Commonwealth Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Richmond, Virginia

Community Relations Council of the Jewish Federation of San Antonio

Congregation of Holy Cross, Southern Province

Congregation of Our Lady of Victory Missionary Sisters, Huntington, Indiana

Detroit Province of the Society of Jesus

En Camino, Migrant and Immigrant Services, Diocese of Toledo, Ohio

Family Unity & Citizenship Program of the Diocese of Las Cruces

HIAS and Council Migration Services of Philadelphia

Hogar Hispano - Catholic Charities, Falls Church, Virginia Houston Dominican Sisters

Human Concerns Commission of the Diocese of San Jose

Interfaith Refugee and Immigration Ministries of Illinois

Jewish Community Action, St. Paul, Minnesota

Jewish Community Relations Council of the Jewish Federation of Southern Arizona

Lutheran Children and Family Service of Eastern Pennsylvania

Lutheran Family Services in the Carolinas

Lutheran Social Service of Minnesota

Lutheran Social Services of Michigan

Lutheran Social Services of New England

Lutheran Social Services of Northern New England

Lutheran Social Services of South Dakota

Lutheran Social Services of the National Capital Area

Marianist Province of the United States, St. Louis, Missouri

Metropolitan Council on Jewish Poverty, New York

Migration and Refugee Services Diocese of Trenton, New Jersey

Missionary Sisters of the Immaculate Conception, Province of the Immaculate Conception, Paterson, New Jersey

Missionary Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Stella Maris Province, New York, New York

Missionhurst-CICM, Arlington, Virginia

National Catholic Rural Life Conference, Des Moines, Iowa

New Albany Deanery of the Archdiocese of Indianapolis, Indiana

Northern Indiana Ecumenical Multicultural Ministry (NIEMM), Morocco, Indiana

Organización for Latino Awareness of the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago

Priests of the Sacred Heart (SCJ), Hales Corners, Wisconsin

Provincial Council of the Province of St. John the Baptist of the Order of Friars Minor, Cincinnati, Ohio

River's Edge Community Church, Oella, Maryland

Saints Peter and Paul Church, Savannah, Georgia

Society of Jesus (Jesuits), New York Province

Society of the Divine Word, Chicago Province

St James Faithful Citizenship, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St James Parish Council, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St James Parish Social Ministries, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

St. Benedict's Abbey, Benet Lake, Wisconsin

UJA-Federation of New York

Vincentian Center for Church and Society at St. John's University, New York

Western Dominican Province, Oakland, California

Wider Church Ministries - United Church of Christ, Cleveland, Ohio

Wisconsin Province of the Society of Jesus

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Individual Faith Leaders:

Pamela Beech, Archdiocese of Detroit, Lay Leadership and Formation

Rev. Dr. Clive Calver, Walnut Hill Community Church, Bethel, CT

P. Adem Carroll, 9/11 Relief Director Islamic Circle of North America USA (ICNA Relief)

Patrick Gilger, SJ, Loyola University Chicago

Most Reverend Nicholas DiMarzio, Bishop of Brooklyn

John E. Dister, SJ, Detroit Province Jesuits, Loyola of the Lakes Retreat House

Bob Dunden, SJ, St Benedict the Moor Parish, Omaha, NE

John C. Fickes, Detroit Province of the Society of Jesus

Francis Cardinal George, Archbishop of Chicago

Michael Higgins, C.P., Provincial Superior of Holy Cross Province of the Passionists, Chicago, Illinois

Daniel Idzikowski, Catholic Charities of the Diocese of La Crosse, Inc., La Crosse, Wisconsin

Fr. Michael J. Kavanaugh, Port Wentworth, Georgia

Dr Khurshid Khan, President of the Islamic Circle of North America

Most Reverend Gerald Kicanas, Bishop of Tucson

Clifton Kirkpatrick, Stated Clerk of the General Assembly, Presbyterian Church-USA

Abbot Jerome Kodell, OSB, Subiaco, Arkansas

Reverand John S.Korcsmar, CSC, Austin, Texas

Sister Larraine Lauter OSU, Owensboro, Kentucky

Reverand Msgr. Ronald T. Marino, Brooklyn, New York

Peter Vander Meulen, Office of Social Justice and Hunger Action, Christian Reformed Church

Carrie Monnette, Detroit Province Jesuits, Assistant for Social and International Ministries

Allan Parker, Pastor, Quitman Church of the Nazarene, Quitman, GA

Sylvia Romero, Hispanic Ministry at Grace United Methodist Church, Olathe, Kansas

Most Reverend Carlos Sevilla, S.J., Bishop of Yakima, Washington

Secretary General, Rashid Siddiqui, Islamic Circle of North America

Michael Simone, SJ, Weston Jesuit School of Theology

Most Reverend Jaime Soto, Auxiliary Bishop of Orange, California

Madonna Della Strada, Jesuit Residence

Professor Elie Wiesel, Boston University

Most Reverend Thomas G. Wenski, Bishop of Orlando

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And these are the adversaries who insist on Amnesty! Make no mistake about it.Shall the church rule the state? That IS what is being attempted.

[dennisw]

I'll bet there is a greater tendency for lay Catholics to be against open borders than lay Mormons

Could be- I am not sure. I am genuinely interested in your reasons,as I think this is an important topic.

My guess is the average Mormon is closer to his hierarchy in everything. There is more unity of purpose. With Catholics there is anarchy, dissention. I've heard loony gays and others cursing the Catholic Church. I have never heard a Mormon revile his church. Plus most Mormons live in and near Utah, close to the Mormon nerve center. The Catholic flock is widely dispersed. Harder to exert influence and discipline

[CharlesWayneCT]

Then you have confused me. In your first post, you said "We attacked the King and Won".

I asked who the "king" was, and you said "Billbray".

But Billbray WON. So he wasn't the "king" you attacked.

I was just trying to figure out who the big pro-amnesty person was you attacked in that district -- the democrat couldn't be the "king", she had never held the office.

Does my question make more sense now?

I agree that Billbray winning was a strong showing for the pro-borders push, which I applaud. I'm just saying it wasn't an example of taking down a "king" using the immigration issue.

I happen to think Billbray would have won even if his opponent was anti-illegal-immigrant. But that is just my opinion. It was a good thing Billbray was pro-borders.

My point about corruption was that in the race, Billbray was king (kind of, more like prince, since the king had been deposed). The democrats tried to take down "the king" using corruption as the issue, and failed.

That was the bigger message in that election -- corruption won't win you a race unless the person running is actually personally part of the corruption. Again, that is my opinion, but the point is that immigration was the winning issue for Billbray precisely because corruption was NOT a winning issue for the democrats.

In other words, I don't think Billbray overcame a "corruption" problem using illegal immigration. He won his race because people cared about real issues, not the corruption thing.

[flaglady47]

"That was the bigger message in that election -- corruption won't win you a race unless the person running is actually personally part of the corruption. Again, that is my opinion, but the point is that immigration was the winning issue for Billbray precisely because corruption was NOT a winning issue for the democrats."

I think we are both arguing on the same side of the coin, as I agree with the above. Sounds like we just misunderstood each other, while trying to say something similar. So, basically we agree on this.