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Rice urges diplomacy over Israeli hostage in Gaza [Nauseating news.]
Reuters ^ | 26JUN06 | Reuters

Posted on 06/27/2006 1:44:38 AM PDT by familyop

PRESTWICK (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged Israel late on Monday to give diplomacy a chance to win the release of an Israeli soldier taken hostage by militants in Gaza.

Palestinians in northern Gaza have begun blocking roads with mounds of earth and Israeli armor has massed on the other side of the Gaza frontier as Israel awaits word on the fate of Corporal Gilad Shalit, who was abducted by Palestinian gunmen and taken to Gaza on Sunday.

"There really needs to be an effort now to try and calm the situation, not to let the situation escalate and to give diplomacy a chance to work to try to get this release," Rice told reporters who landed in Scotland for a refueling stop en route to Pakistan.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert held Hamas, an Islamist group that came to power in March, and the Palestinian Authority chaired by President Mahmoud Abbas responsible for the assault by gunmen on the frontier with Gaza during which Shalit was abducted.

"The time is approaching for a comprehensive, sharp and severe Israeli operation. We will not wait forever," Olmert said in a speech. "We will not become a target of Hamas-terrorist blackmail."

Rice said there was a concerted international effort to win the soldier's release and that she had talked to Israel's foreign minister and Abbas to seek a resolution.

The United States is Israel's most important ally and also has strong influence over Abbas, who has received consistent U.S. support in his power struggle with a Hamas-led government.

Rice said that if Hamas was behind the raid it would show that the group -- considered a terrorist organization by the United States -- was ignoring international pressure to eschew violence.

"This is not behavior that is tolerable in the international system," she said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: corporal; diplomacy; fatah; gaza; gilad; hamas; islamist; israel; jihad; on; shalit; terror; war; wot
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I'm curious, DieHard - if you were Condi, what would you do in this case (diplomacy-wise)?

I'd have a hard time resisting the urge to just go in with guns blazing...(diplomacy usually isn't my strong point...to which my kids can testify!)

41 posted on 06/27/2006 5:00:28 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: familyop

Thank God WW II wasn't run like this stupidity marked nonsense of diplomacy in the Middle East. Fight to win for God's sake, and then you have diplomacy on your terms. Pathetic!


42 posted on 06/27/2006 5:05:54 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: familyop
Israel has enabled terrorists. In the end Israel's government will do nothing because to act would underline the colossal blunder that it entailed with pulling out of Gaza completely last summer along with every Jewish man, woman and child. As it turned out, the Israeli army was not in Gaza to protect the Jewish settlers. It was there to protect the Negev. Now Israel is literally eyeless in Gaza and thanks to the destruction of the Gaza Jewish Communities has no physical means of preventing terrorist movement around the area or to keep them under observation. I don't expect the Israeli government to forswear its appeasement policy any time soon.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

43 posted on 06/27/2006 5:07:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ZinGirl
Going in guns blazing is idiotic if you don't know where the soldier is. Diplomacy buys time for the IDF to work their spies in Gaza and find the kid. Be smart. Just because Rice is emphasizing diplomacy in this situation doesn't mean she's Neville Chamberlain. She knows what Hamas is.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

44 posted on 06/27/2006 5:08:30 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: section9
Going in guns blazing is idiotic if you don't know where the soldier is

yep....which is why I'd make an idiotic diplomat. I'm more the "ready...shoot...aim" type.. (snort).

Condi is one cool cucumber.

45 posted on 06/27/2006 5:13:52 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: familyop

I was wondering when our government would begin pressuring Israel to sacrifice the life of this soldier in (vain) hope that "diplomacy" might work. It has never worked with Palestinians and never will.


46 posted on 06/27/2006 5:19:55 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Democrats: soulless minions of orthodoxy.)
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To: familyop

So you are more qualified than Dr. Rice. When do you perform your walk-on-water act?


47 posted on 06/27/2006 5:22:37 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: familyop
Some people are obviously forgetting Dr. Rice was given the job of a diplomat. Why be surprised if she wants to try diplomacy?

She wasn't given the job of a general - if she was, then of course she would be advocating the use of force.

Why blame someone for doing the job they were hired to do?

48 posted on 06/27/2006 5:29:19 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: familyop

I wonder, after all the crap that has happened over there, would Israel make this 'the straw that broke the camel back'?


49 posted on 06/27/2006 5:35:51 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Ms Rice isn't as stupid as one may think...

She sure sounds stupid much of the time.

50 posted on 06/27/2006 6:01:41 AM PDT by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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To: familyop

Rice is of the UN school of appeasement. You will see it in Iraq too.

I hope the kidnapped soldier is saved but this is not about him anymore. Or it shouldn't be.

The "Palestinians" attacked inside Israel, they killed two.

Notwithstanding this soldier, Israel should have been in Gaza 36 hours ago preparing many Arabs to meet their assigned virgins.

You will know when/if Israel regrows a spine when/if you ever read a headline that the Israeli Government told Rice to STFU.

Oh, and Rice for President. She plays the piano and is a sharp dresser.


51 posted on 06/27/2006 6:09:53 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bandar Bush in 08: Continue the Legacy)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

ALL HAIL THE MUPPET!


begone demon, back to the kos that spawned you!


52 posted on 06/27/2006 6:14:36 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: Joe Boucher
Where's Jack Bauer when you need him? He must be having a Murtha Moment: cut-n-run (sounds like diarrhea with gas).
53 posted on 06/27/2006 6:19:05 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: familyop

What would Dr. Rice have to say if someone suggested giving al-Qaida a sovereign territory of its own, and then negotiating with bin Laden?


54 posted on 06/27/2006 6:29:02 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.

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Given the thunderous response to the recent butchering of American soldiers (thunderous on FR and a few radio shows, forgotten elsewhere), I'm not surprised.

55 posted on 06/27/2006 6:49:20 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: familyop

"Why should our Secretary of State Rice demand that Israel do so?"


Because the Wahabi lobby is powerful. Every time this type of situation develops, they are on the horn to whatever administration is in power urging us to urge Israel to "exercise restraint." It is sickening.


56 posted on 06/27/2006 6:52:12 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: ZinGirl
I'm curious, DieHard - if you were Condi, what would you do in this case (diplomacy-wise)?

You didn't ask me, but recognizeing we face the same enemy, I'd probably resist offering advice, and let Israel deal with it.

Of course I'd loudly condemn the abuse of a prisoner. Which would be coming on the heels of loud condemnation of the recent butchering of our soldiers.

The idea of negotiation, unless we're prepared to negotiate in a similar circumstance, wouldn't cross my lips.

57 posted on 06/27/2006 7:12:45 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Diplomacy isn't a dumb thing to do -- particularly if it works. When all else fails, she can always send in the SAS.

Think acts of 'diplomacy' are only worthy/valid when their is a common denominator of 'consciousness'. . .

Diplomacy with/for terrorists who resonate at 'zero' level and contrary to any civilized values. . .is only 'weakness. . .capitulation. . .surrender' to the inferior.

. . .and in turn; enhances their grotesquely distorted version and vision. . .of empowerment.

Condi has lost my vote on this one. . .

58 posted on 06/27/2006 7:30:17 AM PDT by cricket
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To: DieHard the Hunter
When was the last time it was tried?

You don't negotiate with enemies unless they are utterly defeated and then you set the terms.

Under any other circumstances "negotiations" WILL NOT WORK.

59 posted on 06/27/2006 7:34:09 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 1-9)
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To: Alouette

> You don't negotiate with enemies unless they are utterly defeated and then you set the terms.

Seems rather silly to limit your options like this. Why go to all the bother of fighting when you may be able to achieve the same outcome with words instead?


60 posted on 06/27/2006 1:35:29 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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