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Driver wrestles gun from carjacker, suspect killed
WKRC TV ^ | Associated Press

Posted on 06/26/2006 12:43:32 PM PDT by Ghengis

Driver wrestles gun from carjacker, suspect killedLAST UPDATE: 6/26/2006 10:29:03 AMCAMBRIDGE, Ohio (AP) - Authorities in eastern Ohio say a suspected carjacker is dead, shot and killed by the motorist whose vehicle he was trying to steal.

Guernsey County Sheriff Mike McCauley says 44-year-old John Toubell of Antrim sneaked into the back seat of the parked car while the driver was inside a gas station early yesterday.

Twenty-nine-year-old Brian Starr of Cambridge says he saw a head in his rearview mirror as he drove away, and then he saw a gun.

Starr was shot in the leg as the men scuffled for the gun. Starr got the gun away from Toubell and shot and killed the suspect.

The sheriff says the shooting appears to be self-defense because the motorist had been shot first. An autopsy is planned today.

WKRC.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; concealedcarry; crime; gun; guns; ohio
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To: EQAndyBuzz
insert funny star trek "He's dead Jim!" image here.
21 posted on 06/26/2006 1:03:28 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (I invented "patty on patty technology.")
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To: Junior

You cannot defame a dead man.


22 posted on 06/26/2006 1:03:46 PM PDT by weegee (If fetal tissue is non-viable, then why are they trying to use it to stimulate cell production?)
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To: Brilliant

I would say it is self-defense because the attacker had a gun.

I guess it isn't really armed robbery at a convenience story if the gun doesn't go off or isn't even a real gun.


23 posted on 06/26/2006 1:05:16 PM PDT by weegee (If fetal tissue is non-viable, then why are they trying to use it to stimulate cell production?)
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To: FReepaholic
Sheriff, the shooting would have been in self defense even if the motorist had NOT been shot first.

Thats the same thing that stuck out when I read this otherwise happy story.

24 posted on 06/26/2006 1:06:17 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Baynative

I'm surprised they did not charge the guy who's still alive with stealing the perp's gun. I'm sure they can find something that he did that's illegal.


25 posted on 06/26/2006 1:06:28 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: weegee
It is like when there is a multiple shooting in a public place and the shooter is killed on the scene and the media still says "the suspect died at the scene".

I'm no lawyer, but I think it has to do with the media must refer to any perp as a "suspect" until the "suspect" is convicted.

26 posted on 06/26/2006 1:07:06 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Ping.


27 posted on 06/26/2006 1:08:54 PM PDT by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: Brilliant
An autopsy is planned today...."

I can tell you the result already... The gun did it.

You don't know that? He could have been driving an SUV.

28 posted on 06/26/2006 1:08:57 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: Panzerlied
Guns don't kill people, BULLETS kill people! Guns just make them go really fast.
29 posted on 06/26/2006 1:09:59 PM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: Ghengis
Too bad the car owner didn't see the bad guy in the car before the owner go in his car. It'd make an interesting arrest.

"Hey bro. What you doin' in my car?

30 posted on 06/26/2006 1:10:28 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: bruin66

Wow, good news on the justice front today. First the Supreme Court reinstates the Kansas death penalty. Then comes news the so-called Railroad Killer is to be executed in TX tomorrow. Now this.


31 posted on 06/26/2006 1:12:15 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Panzerlied
Guns don't kill people, BULLETS kill people!

Outlaw lead.

33 posted on 06/26/2006 1:13:00 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Cobra64

It's their policy, but as I say, we don't convict dead men. Doesn't matter how many witnesses there are (and even video capturing the act), the media calls them "suspects".

In Canada, I've seen people refer to the alleged 9-11 hijackers. Same principle. No trial, no guilt.


34 posted on 06/26/2006 1:14:05 PM PDT by weegee (If fetal tissue is non-viable, then why are they trying to use it to stimulate cell production?)
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To: weegee

He has family. It's always better to be safe than sued.


35 posted on 06/26/2006 1:19:01 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Ghengis

Cambridge is the county seat of my county---in fact, I'm heading into town as soon as I post this. BTW, I think the dead perp's name is Touvell (rhymes with shovel), and the whole damned family have been trouble around these parts for three generations.


36 posted on 06/26/2006 1:19:10 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Ghengis
poison pills

Interesting, I wasn't aware of these gems, designed to make administrators able to defeat the spirit of non discretionary CCW.

Kaliforniastan has used administrative "definitions" to prevent citizens from legally moving handguns in a vehicle under any circumstances, and they are enforced in the liberal wacko counties in the state.

37 posted on 06/26/2006 1:22:58 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: quark

"Until Mr. Toubell's family sued for Wrongful Death stating that "John was such a wonderful human being, he would never hurt a fly, he was just misunderstood he was just trying to clean Mr. Starr's floor mats."


38 posted on 06/26/2006 1:27:21 PM PDT by kx9088
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To: Navy Patriot
Kaliforniastan has used administrative "definitions" to prevent citizens from legally moving handguns in a vehicle under any circumstances, and they are enforced in the liberal wacko counties in the state.
Which is why I will never live in California, and I am hoping to move to Texas sometime soon.
39 posted on 06/26/2006 1:29:46 PM PDT by YoungAmerican84
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To: Ghengis
Tears of joy are flowing down my cheek...I hope this man suffered a slow painful death gasping for breath, just like Zarqawi

(This morning I discovered my car's rear window smashed at an attempted carjacking/robbery, so this story is all the more heartwarming to me)

40 posted on 06/26/2006 1:32:40 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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