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"The new policy is a nod to state and civil rights law and recommendations from the Extension Service Diversity Advisory Council. "

Trying to remember the last time I met a Muslim at my daughters 4-H club meeting, it's not coming to me....

1 posted on 06/26/2006 12:13:54 PM PDT by Abathar
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"No single incident prompted his note. "

SO what brought this on?


2 posted on 06/26/2006 12:17:21 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Abathar

Why do prayers have to be group efforts for God to hear them?


3 posted on 06/26/2006 12:19:17 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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"We want to respect peoples' beliefs and be inclusive."

Bass Ackwards per his statement.........

4 posted on 06/26/2006 12:20:49 PM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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Lake County Indiana could sure use some prayer.


5 posted on 06/26/2006 12:21:15 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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Trying to remember the last time I met a Muslim at my daughters 4-H club meeting, it's not coming to me....

They're the ones who buy all the Ammonium Nitrate for growing things...............

7 posted on 06/26/2006 12:22:56 PM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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Well, huh, if they really wanted to be 'inclusive', and not make anybody feel uncomfortable, maybe they should eliminate the swine show (and all the other unclean animals). I will be watching for similar stupidity to filter down through Hancock County 4H. Hopefully this is not coming from Purdue...


8 posted on 06/26/2006 12:24:09 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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"The new policy is a nod to state and civil rights law and recommendations from the Extension Service Diversity Advisory Council."

In the name of diversity Christian religious expression must be eradicated.
12 posted on 06/26/2006 12:29:38 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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Ya just gotta wonder exactly which law of the State of Indiana this gentleman thinks prohibits voluntary prayer.


13 posted on 06/26/2006 12:32:01 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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"We want to respect peoples' beliefs and be inclusive."



I think he quite nicely has that ass backwards.


16 posted on 06/26/2006 12:36:31 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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17 posted on 06/26/2006 12:37:54 PM PDT by pabianice
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Stan Sims, the county extension director, said he issued the directive because: "We want to respect peoples' beliefs and be inclusive."

By preventing people from exercising their beliefs and being exclusive.


21 posted on 06/26/2006 12:44:27 PM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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Somebody got to Sims??


22 posted on 06/26/2006 12:48:48 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (It takes ideas and optimism to win elections. The DemocRATS have neither.)
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Let God turn off the rain for a few weeks in Lake County. Then we'll see how long the prayer ban lasts.


24 posted on 06/26/2006 12:50:51 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Actions have consequences.")
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Another unconstitutional civil right breech, brought to you by the Anti-Christian Lawyers Union.


25 posted on 06/26/2006 12:54:44 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (It takes ideas and optimism to win elections. The DemocRATS have neither.)
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Putting on my flamesuit. :-)

4-H is a government youth organization that receives both federal and state funds. I was a 4-H volunteer, and the meetings began with the Pledge of Allegiance, the 4-H Pledge, roll call, collect dues, and then we got right down to business. If everyone in the club agrees to say a prayer, no one at headquarters is going to find out. But remember every 4-H Club as part of a gov't organization must remain open for other children, regardless of their faith, to join. That's part of the deal, as it's taxpayer funded.


26 posted on 06/26/2006 1:12:03 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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Hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss....


27 posted on 06/26/2006 1:25:53 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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First the Boy Scouts, now 4-H

What children's organization will be next?


29 posted on 06/26/2006 1:30:34 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Here goes another great and fine American institution down the drain of PC.

I say> have your prayers and dare this butt wipe to do anything about it.


30 posted on 06/26/2006 1:43:40 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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I wonder what people here would say if the leaders of the local 4-H happened to be Muslim and at the start of their meetings asked all the children to recite a Muslim prayer praising mohammed and ending in "Allah Ackbar!".

Why not a moment of silence? Christians can pray to Jesus, Jews to Jehovah, Muslims to Allah and the atheists can twiddle their thumbs.


34 posted on 06/26/2006 3:14:59 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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Governments should stop prohibiting the free exercise of religion. It's a violation of the Constitution.


35 posted on 06/26/2006 4:03:21 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal (8)
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