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Austrian Writer Peter Handke: Send my award to the Serbs
ERPKIM ^ | June 23, 2006 | By D. Sekulic

Posted on 06/26/2006 11:04:21 AM PDT by Bokababe

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To: wideawake
Yeah, now try to discredit this source, dude-in-a-stupor that you are.

Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into Militant Islamic Base

61 posted on 06/27/2006 9:54:51 AM PDT by joan
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To: joan
Ah, yes. Those women and children who were murdered in Potocari and Kamenica at the same time that the men were being slaughtered never existed. Srebrenica was an all-male Bosniak enclave.

Please, give me a break.

62 posted on 06/27/2006 9:59:13 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
Please name the women and children who were killed and provide a link.

So you don't know about the UN arranged bus rides to Tuzla?

63 posted on 06/27/2006 10:00:10 AM PDT by joan
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To: joan
LOL!

I thought it was US Military Intelligence that was smuggling arms into Bosnia. Now you tell me that it was Iranian agents.

You realize that the Pentagon is not located in Iran, right?

64 posted on 06/27/2006 10:00:57 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
His claim that the US targeted civilian residential buildings for no purpose other than to destroy Communist banners and murals is ridiculous on its face, has absolutely no evidence behind it and proves that the man is a bald-faced liar.

I have/read his book (To Kill a Nation) and I do not recall such statement. Can you give me some reference/page number?

He is one customer review from the Amazon link:

21 of 22 people found the following review helpful:

Dynamic, muckraking at its finest, February 18, 2005 Reviewer: Thomas Willard "il_duce" (San Francisco) - See all my reviews

I found this book to be one of the most honest attempts to discern the dynamic forces acting upon and precipitating the spate of late 20th Cent Balkan Wars. This book is certainly written from a left wing perspective. If you think that the IMF and World Bank are great institutions, then you are going to disagree with Parenti. Parenti unearths many important details that alter some of the predjudices that the press constructs in an almost a priori way. The Serbs must always be bad. I visited Serbia in 2001; while they were bitter at America, most were very polite and accomodating. After all, how would you feel about Serbia if they bombed your city for 79 straight days.

Some of the details that Parenti shares:
1. Toward the end of the war, the Croats bombed, with German artillery, in the Krajinia/Knin fleeing Serbian civilians as they were ethnically cleansed. In 2001, while taking the bus through Knin, I sat near a cute Croat girl, maybe 25. "We got rid of the Serbs in this area" she stated with a grin. "They just ran away." Perspective?

2. The marketplace bombing that really brought the conflict to the nightly news, was a bit of a hoax. Forensic experts examined the corpses and found that they had died earlier than the date of the bombing. The press just does not follow up their claims when they are wrong.

3. The role of the IMF and World Bank were huge. The central federal bank in Belgrade was frozen after Milosevich refused to accomodate some of the SAP's that the IMF were insisting upon. Without the transfer of money to the provinces, the people grew angry.

There are many other points he makes, I found these interesting. I think an accurate analysis is needed to create foreign policy on, rather than preconceived notions.

65 posted on 06/27/2006 10:02:20 AM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: joan
Please name the women and children who were killed and provide a link.

Are you actually arguing that no crimes were committed by the Serbian army at Potocari? Really?

So you don't know about the UN arranged bus rides to Tuzla?

They sure did, and some of those buses actually made it to Tuzla. Not all did.

Basically you're arguing that the Serbian Army would have killed all the women and children along with the men, but that they were frustrated in this purpose by the UN's decision to try to evacuate all the women and children first.

66 posted on 06/27/2006 10:04:16 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: A. Pole

An Amazon review by someone who calls himself "Il Duce" (that's interesting) is supposed to prove what, exactly?


67 posted on 06/27/2006 10:05:45 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
Look out! Behind you! It's a Serbian Socialist-Communist!

Haha. Made ya jump... and probably crap down your leg :-)

68 posted on 06/27/2006 10:06:08 AM PDT by getoffmylawn (Greg Dulli for President)
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To: getoffmylawn
Thanks for your well thought out contribution to the thread.
69 posted on 06/27/2006 10:07:36 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

The U.S. flew Iranian arms to Croatia.


70 posted on 06/27/2006 10:07:40 AM PDT by joan
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To: wideawake
Here is a photo of the Srebrenica evacuation. No one appears injured at all.


71 posted on 06/27/2006 10:09:36 AM PDT by joan
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To: joan
The U.S. flew Iranian arms to Croatia.

Really? American planes flew weapons from Iranian territory to Croatia? None of your sources even hint at such a preposterous tale.

72 posted on 06/27/2006 10:11:10 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
were you in Potocari, or Mali Potocari like I was, wideawake? If so, please give details of your findings.

Were you in Srebrenica too? Fill me in with details of what you found or saw? I'm waiting....

73 posted on 06/27/2006 10:11:56 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: joan
Here is a photo of the Srebrenica evacuation. No one appears injured at all.

Why would they be?

The UN started evacuating people from the town before the Serb army gained control of it.

Pathetic bait-and-switch tactic.

74 posted on 06/27/2006 10:13:22 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

I'm still waiting for your first, Scaredy Cat. You are obviously of the one track mind.


75 posted on 06/27/2006 10:14:51 AM PDT by getoffmylawn (Greg Dulli for President)
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To: wideawake
An Amazon review by someone who calls himself "Il Duce" (that's interesting) is supposed to prove what, exactly?

It was not intended as a proof. BTW, the real "Il Duce" was on the side of Croats and Albanians, not on the side of Serbs.

76 posted on 06/27/2006 10:16:09 AM PDT by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: ma bell
Yes, I was there every bit as much as you were - which is to say that I was not there at all.

Were you in Srebrenica too? Fill me in with details of what you found or saw? I'm waiting....

You know, I've never been to Auschwitz - so I guess I'm really just guessing when I say that myriads of Jews were murdered there.

Interesting rule: unless one is physically present to witness an historical event, it didn't happen. Brilliant argument.

77 posted on 06/27/2006 10:16:25 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: getoffmylawn
I'm still waiting for your first, Scaredy Cat. You are obviously of the one track mind.

Thanks again for the substantive discussion, even though you are definitely of the poor grammar.

78 posted on 06/27/2006 10:18:12 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

Anything for you, pal. I'm just enjoying watching you get spanked on this thread :-)


79 posted on 06/27/2006 10:19:42 AM PDT by getoffmylawn (Greg Dulli for President)
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To: wideawake
Look out! Behind you! It's a Serbian Socialist-Communist!

Haha. Made ya jump... and probably crap down your leg :-)


68 posted on 06/27/2006 10:06:08 AM PDT by getoffmylawn (Greg Dulli for President)

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To: getoffmylawn
Thanks for your well thought out contribution to the thread.
69 posted on 06/27/2006 10:07:36 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)

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It made me laugh.

80 posted on 06/27/2006 10:19:43 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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