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Austrian Writer Peter Handke: Send my award to the Serbs
ERPKIM ^ | June 23, 2006 | By D. Sekulic

Posted on 06/26/2006 11:04:21 AM PDT by Bokababe

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1 posted on 06/26/2006 11:04:26 AM PDT by Bokababe
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To: zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; Banat; FormerLib; ...

May God Bless Peter Handke!


2 posted on 06/26/2006 11:05:39 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Do you ever get the feeling we fought on the wrong side in that "illegal" war?


3 posted on 06/26/2006 11:17:28 AM PDT by SeanOGuano
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To: SeanOGuano

We shouldn't have fought on any side.


4 posted on 06/26/2006 11:19:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: Bokababe
Screw him. He was a supporter of the Milosevic regime and spoke up in defense of that scumbag.

He supported Serbia because he saw Serbia as the last remaining outpost of the Communism he favors, not because of any humanitarian concerns.

5 posted on 06/26/2006 11:22:37 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Bokababe

Good for Peter Handke! One of the few European intellectuals who dares to speak out against the trend.

As for Günther Grasse, I've always thought that his work was highly overrated. I've never been able to get through it. Nothing but self-worshipping, superficial, juvenile leftism, lacking imagination.

You don't have to like an author's politics to admire his writing, but Grasse is a second-rater.


6 posted on 06/26/2006 11:23:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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You should be able to see right through Handke, Cicero. I mean, come on.


7 posted on 06/26/2006 11:26:22 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

Screw him. He was a supporter of the Milosevic regime and spoke up in defense of that scumbag.

Well said!


8 posted on 06/26/2006 11:50:26 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: wideawake
Milosevic grew up in a commie world but had morphed into a nationalist/patriot by the time Slick KKKlintler decided to bomb Serbia for 80 days and nights to take Juanita Broaddrick and Chinagate off the front pages of American newspapers.

The really evil villians in the story are the demokkkrat us senators who went to the wall to keep slick in the whitehouse for 8 years rather than packing his sorry ass off to St. Elizabeth's hospital for the criminally insane where he belongs.

9 posted on 06/26/2006 12:08:24 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: wideawake
He supported Serbia because he saw Serbia as the last remaining outpost of the Communism he favors...

And your source for this is...?

10 posted on 06/26/2006 12:13:42 PM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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To: F-117A
Let's start with the fact that he is one of the founding members of Die Grazer Gruppe, the writers' organization of the KPO, Austria's Communist Party.

Do you know anything of his books? His biography?

Asking me for a "source" that Handke is a hardcore leftist is like asking someone for a source that Benedict CVI is a Catholic.

You are aware that Handke spoke at Milosevic's funeral, right?

11 posted on 06/26/2006 12:31:23 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: F-117A

Correction: XVI


12 posted on 06/26/2006 12:32:07 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: tomzz
Milosevic grew up in a commie world but had morphed into a nationalist/patriot by the time Slick KKKlintler decided to bomb Serbia

Keep telling yourself that.

Milosevic was an unreconstructed Communist.

When people defend filth like Milosevic while attacking Clinton in the same breath, it only makes rational people view Clinton favorably.

Probably the only semi-decent thing Clinton did in his whole miserable life was attack this Communist dictator - though he only did it for politics, not out of principle.

13 posted on 06/26/2006 12:35:59 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
Probably the only semi-decent thing Clinton did in his whole miserable life was attack this Communist dictator - though he only did it for politics, not out of principle.

Near as I can tell from everything believable I've been able to come up with, we bombed a totally innocent Christian nation into the stone age for 80 days and nights including Easter sunday, for the benefit of a bunch of narco-terrorists, white trash, and barbarians, and to take the Juanita Broaddrick story off newspapers. In the entire 8 year reign of terror of the KKKlinton regime, I only saw two groups of people stand up to the beast and try to face it down, that being the Mormons in Utah and the Serbs. That gives those people hero status in my estimation.

14 posted on 06/26/2006 1:23:03 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: wideawake

Ypu know, problem with your theory is that people actuali lived in Serbia during Milosevic administration. he started democratic reforms, dissmissing communist rule, givving new, democratic constiturtion still on power, dissmissing Islamic/communist raign on Kosovo and actualy telling people that there is more out there than communism.

Can you belive, that he actualy held elections. First democratic elections in Eastern Europe, held in 1990, when Poland, Hungary and others hade still communist regimes.

In economy he started freemarket economy, privatisation of factories and other western values.


15 posted on 06/26/2006 1:32:15 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)
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To: Bokababe

Great story, thanks!


16 posted on 06/26/2006 2:02:36 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: wideawake
It's the "Milosevic was the good guy" Twilight Zone episode.

Enjoy.

17 posted on 06/26/2006 2:20:21 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: wideawake
"Let's start with the fact that he is one of the founding members of Die Grazer Gruppe, the writers' organization of the KPO, Austria's Communist Party."

Everything I have found said that he "joined Die Grazer Gruppe", not that he was "a founding member". Besides which, who of any of us weren't more liberal in college than we are today? For God's sake, Ronald Reagan briefly flirted with communism in his youth! (And my source for that was direct conversation with the people who talked him out of it!)

"Screw him. He was a supporter of the Milosevic regime and spoke up in defense of that scumbag."

In the interview with the Süddeutsche Zeitung , 31 March 1999, he (Handke) said clearly, "I am with the Serbian people, not Milosevic. Anyone who is not a pronounced anti-Serb is despised as being 'pro-Serb'. Whoever mentions Milosevic's name without immediately adding 'slaughterer', 'Balkan Hitler', 'God protect us', is accused of taking sides with Milosovic.” He added, polemically, that "to be called pro-Serb today is an honour."

"You are aware that Handke spoke at Milosevic's funeral, right?"

Yes, and the press twisted his words so much that they had to write a retraction. Here is what Handke said in response:

"I have not laid a red rose on the hearse of Slobodan Milosevic. I did not touch the hearse. I did not wave the Serbian flag. And I have never approved "the Srebrenica massacre and other crimes done in the name of ethnic cleansing." I've never considered the Serbs as "the real victims of the war." And in Pozarevac, I did not come as a "truth seeker." I am not the author of Justice for Serbia, but of Winter Journey to the rivers Danube, Sava, Morava and Drina (Gallimard). And nowhere in my little speech in Pozarevac have I said "I am happy to be close to Slobodan Milosevic, who has defended his people." What is true: I gave my speech in "Serb" (or serbo-croat)! And for all the readers, I am translating it here in French: "The world, the so-called world, knows everything on Yugoslavia, Serbia. The world, the so-called world, knows everything on Slobodan Milosevic. The so-called world knows the truth. For that, the so-called world today is absent, and not only today, and not only here. I know that I do not know. I do not know the truth. But I look. I feel. I remember. For that, I am present today, close to Yugoslavia, close to Serbia, close to Slobodan Milosevic. -- P.H. Actually, the last sentence should be translated as "[F]or that, I am present today, with Yugoslavia, with Serbia, with Slobodan Milosevic," which, although not literal, may better express Handke's sentiments.

Handke was a "Yugoslavist", not "a communist". He believed that if the different peoples of Yugoslavia could get a along, then the world had a chance of peace. You can call that naive, but naivete is not communism. Handke knew enough about the history of the place and the players involved (including Germany's role) in the destruction of Yugoslavia, to know that the blanket "blame it all on the Serbs" attitude was total nonsense -- and racist, to a people who Germany had twice tried to anihilate.

You can fault Handke for many things, but in this case, his behavior is a matter of conscience -- and he has paid dearly for it. Peter Handke is a brave man, and the actions of his detractors has been abominable.

18 posted on 06/26/2006 2:22:37 PM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: wideawake
"He (Handke) supported Serbia because he saw Serbia as the last remaining outpost of the Communism he favors, not because of any humanitarian concerns."

Is that why he went to Kosovo to celebrate Easter and endured being stoned by Muslim Albanians? http://www.kosovo.net/news/archive/2006/April_28/2.html

19 posted on 06/26/2006 2:47:35 PM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Valin; wideawake
Screw him. He was a supporter of the Milosevic regime and spoke up in defense of that scumbag.

At least he spoke in support of the Christian Serbs and against the Muhammedan terrorists.

Which is more than certain alleged Christians are willing to do.

20 posted on 06/26/2006 3:32:26 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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