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England, Germany fans clash in Stuttgart
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060624/wl_nm/soccer_world_england_fans_dc_2;_ylt=AmwmpDi7KfF0Y4fB2zoyj2WaK8MA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5bGVna3NhBHNlYwNzc3JlbA-- ^ | 4 minutes ago | Kate Holton

Posted on 06/24/2006 1:46:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin

STUTTGART (Reuters) - Riot police detained a group of around 100 rowdy England soccer fans in a square in the center of Stuttgart on Saturday after they had clashed with German fans, throwing bottles and chairs and trading punches.

Tens of thousands of English and German fans had gathered in the area, many drinking throughout the day, to watch Germany's 2-0 second-round World Cup win over Sweden on big screen TVs. Trouble broke out shortly after the end of the game.

England fans were in the city for their country's second-round match against Ecuador on Sunday.

Some 150 fans on both sides threw bottles and chairs before riot police moved into the area to separate them.

After an uneasy standoff and a brief lull, the two sets of fans again threw glass bottles at each other, prompting the riot police to move the German fans out of the area.

They then moved in to arrest the English supporters.

"Most of them will be arrested, because it's like a theater here, and if we don't arrest them there'll be trouble here all night," Stuttgart police spokesman Stefan Kielbach told reporters.

He said the trouble had been started by both sets of fans. Some German supporters were also seen being dragged away by riot police while one German man left the area with blood on his face.

VIOLENT HISTORY

The English have a long history of soccer-related violence but there has been little trouble in Germany so far, with only a small number of arrests for mostly drunken behavior or people trying to get into a stadium without a ticket.

However 122 people were detained in Stuttgart on Friday night for drunken and aggressive behavior and they are expected to be held until the game on Sunday has been played.

Under German law police can detain individuals for threatening behavior or if they suspect they are likely to commit a crime and it does not constitute a full arrest.

Earlier, Germany had beaten Sweden in Munich to reach the quarter-finals of the World Cup.


TOPICS: Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: fans; hooligans; soccer; soccerfans; worldcup
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To: DAC22
What flag it that? (red cross) English Hooligan flag?

It's the flag of England, as opposed to the more commonly seen flag of the United Nations.

The UK flag is a combination of the flags of England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland (flag linky). Wales got left out.

41 posted on 06/24/2006 2:42:49 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Some people are like Slinkies: totally useless, but fun to throw down a stair.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Auggghhh!

I want an edit function on Free Republic! I typed: It's the flag of England, as opposed to the more commonly seen flag of the United Nations. I meant, of course, United Kingdom, not United Nations.

42 posted on 06/24/2006 2:45:42 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Some people are like Slinkies: totally useless, but fun to throw down a stair.)
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To: BenLurkin

Somehow the euros will find a way to blame this all on american culture.


43 posted on 06/24/2006 2:51:00 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: PhillyRepublican

This is what you think a riot is? A couple of hundred people posturing, some patio furniture getting lobbed around and then the police splitting them up?!


44 posted on 06/24/2006 2:56:02 PM PDT by Canard
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To: bandleader

Well, they took sterrn measures to keep the hardcore English from making the trip, iirc.


45 posted on 06/24/2006 2:58:22 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the Right thing. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Screamname
This would have been more interesting if it was German fans clashing with the French ones.

The French Army vs. English Soccer Hooligans
http://www.grudge-match.com/History/soccer.shtml

Apologies for the stupid pop-up.

46 posted on 06/24/2006 2:58:46 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Frank_2001
Americans are uncouth violent cowboys, but Europeans are sophistcated and peaceful!

Once again, great minds think alike.

47 posted on 06/24/2006 3:00:40 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: BenLurkin

(to recycle an old joke:)

"I went to a brawl and a soccer game broke out!" :-)


48 posted on 06/24/2006 3:01:33 PM PDT by Fish_Keeper
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To: don-o

"Well, they took sterrn measures to keep the hardcore English from making the trip, iirc."

This is correct, there are about a total of 3000 people I believe subject to these restrictions. Meanwhile, there's an estimated 60,000 England fans in Germany, the vast majority of whom seem to be causing no problems at all and having a fabulous time.


49 posted on 06/24/2006 3:03:49 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Berlin_Freeper
A little plastic chair tossed through the air, Big Whoop-dee-do... they call THAT rowdy?


50 posted on 06/24/2006 3:06:17 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame

Google on scocer riot video - I won't post because one needs maximum protection to visit those sites. Have firewall / AV. etc


51 posted on 06/24/2006 3:09:14 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the Right thing. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Darkwolf377
The Sport of Peace.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw this earlier on the news. Commie, low scoring sport, watched by skinheads itchin' for a fight.

Something for the whole family.

52 posted on 06/24/2006 3:12:01 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

Yes, you're correct all round. But we are being told that it can now be an arrestable offence to display our country's flag!! (or Denmark's, for some strange reason). Guess why ? Because it is OFFENSIVE....

Yes, you heard that right.... Because it recalls the cross worn by the Crusaders (quite recently, I believe).

There is a major prize for guessing who are the offended party......;-)


53 posted on 06/24/2006 3:23:28 PM PDT by 5050 no line
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To: radiohead

I remember watching NFL coverage a few years back when Channel 4 were first broadcasting it in the UK. At a Cincinatti v Cleveland game they interviewed the Chief of Police, who was going on about how they don't have the same kind of problems as English soccer and how he was 'only expecting about 100 arrests' at that days game.

I nearly fell off my chair! Most clubs in Britain don't see 100 arrests in a season, nevermind at one game, if there were 100 arrests at one English league game there'd be a bloody national inquiry!


54 posted on 06/24/2006 3:27:02 PM PDT by Canard
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To: ErnBatavia
The proper english insult would be "Take that, bratsworth tosser!"
55 posted on 06/24/2006 3:30:57 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: ErnBatavia
Ala Sam Spade: "When you're slapped, you'll take it and like it!"
56 posted on 06/24/2006 3:37:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: BenLurkin

One thing about it American fans dont have to stand around and get drunk celebrating a victory.


57 posted on 06/24/2006 3:37:58 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: BenLurkin

This is what you do when your countries are too weak and decrepit to fight wars anymore.


58 posted on 06/24/2006 3:43:29 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: Ikemeister

"This is what you do when your countries are too weak and decrepit to fight wars anymore"

Hmm, feel free to go personally deliver this message to British troops currently serving in Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm sure they'll be able to disabuse you of the notion of their weakness...


59 posted on 06/24/2006 3:51:13 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Ikemeister

You mean like the Falklands, Gulf 1 & 2 or were you speaking of the Germans?


60 posted on 06/24/2006 3:52:52 PM PDT by mgstarr
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