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CA: Parcel tax measure for education qualifies for November ballot - $50 a parcel state tax hike
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/23/06 | AP

Posted on 06/23/2006 8:27:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

California voters will be asked whether they want to raise property taxes by $50 per parcel under an initiative that qualified Friday for the November ballot.

The measure would generate about $500 million a year by taxing commercial and residential property. Elderly and disabled people would be exempt. The money could be used only for specific purposes, such as reducing class sizes, buying textbooks and improving school safety.

The measure is being funded by two Silicon Valley executives. Reed Hastings, the Netflix founder who was once a member of the state board of education, has given nearly $7 million to the committee sponsoring the measure. John Doerr, the venture capitalist, gave $2 million.

The initiative joins 11 other proposals that previously made the ballot, although a $9.95 billion high-speed rail bond is expected to be moved to November 2008.

The ballot also features measures to tax oil programs to fund research into alternative energy, increase penalties for sex offenders and monitor them more closely, require parents to be notified before their child has an abortion and raise the cigarette tax to fund health care.

The ballot also features bond measures to pay for transportation improvements, flood control programs, affordable housing, school construction, and water quality programs and new parks.

The deadline for initiatives to qualify for the November ballot is June 29.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calinitiatives; education; johndoerr; parceltax; reedhastings; taxes
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1 posted on 06/23/2006 8:27:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

The tide is finally turning on these taxes. We turned most of them down in this past election; let's keep up the good work folks.


2 posted on 06/23/2006 8:33:46 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: NormsRevenge

You know if they made property requirments a voter qualification again, property rights would be safe again. Things would also be generally more conservative.


3 posted on 06/23/2006 8:34:10 PM PDT by old republic
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To: old republic
Yeah, right.

We just defeated a similar proposal in San Leandro, CA.

The voters are smart enough to know that raising funds for "smaller classes" is a lie.

Money, including tax revenue is fungible...it can be moved whereever the politicians want. It's like walking into your bank and asking to see your "cash" in the vault.

Oh, of course the voters would not have to pay the taxes, the "rich" and "business" will pay the tax. This will go down to defeat just like "Meathead's" earlier this month.
4 posted on 06/23/2006 8:45:14 PM PDT by RichardAubrey (Richard Aubrey)
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To: NormsRevenge
All tax initiatives in California should be called illegal alien measures. I estimate about 25% of my local and state taxes go to pay for the services sucked from the system by the illegal aliens.
5 posted on 06/23/2006 8:47:40 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: RichardAubrey

It is funny how property qualifications suddenly make voters more responsible and generally more conservative....hmmm... wonder why that is. When people actually own property they suddenly realize the unjust nature of mobocracy.


6 posted on 06/23/2006 8:50:47 PM PDT by old republic
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To: NormsRevenge
The money could be used only for specific purposes, such as reducing class sizes, buying textbooks and improving school safety

Yeah, right. Until than it will be kept in a lock box. No more money for the black hole known as education and the unions that suck it dry.

7 posted on 06/23/2006 8:54:03 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: old republic

Just another NO vote.


8 posted on 06/23/2006 8:56:03 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: NormsRevenge
The money could be used only for specific purposes, such as reducing class sizes, buying textbooks and improving school safety.

Money is fungible. If you get $50 from a parcel and use it for the "designated" purpose, you can remove $50 of funding from another source that was previously used to cover that "designated" purpose. The level of funding for the "designated" purpose doesn't improve one bit, but the $50 snitched from the prior funding source gets used for what the politicians really intended when the tax increase was imposed. It's classic money laundering.

9 posted on 06/23/2006 8:58:30 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

I'm in CA. I never vote money bonds/propositions for education. I never vote for anything that's a tax or any kind. CA has mismanaged too much too long.


10 posted on 06/23/2006 9:03:00 PM PDT by umgud (Gov't needs a Department of Common Sense)
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To: paul51
The money could be used only for specific purposes, such as reducing class sizes, buying textbooks and improving school safety

Use your money for: Smaller class sizes which have not been shown to have an effect on improving the performance of students by very much statewide? Textbooks that preach socialist, immoral, and liberal agenda indoctrination? And school improving school safety a concept so vague that it could be literally construed as out of proportion as the Commerce Clause?

Instead of perpetuating this broken system, they might want to think about going back to some of the older methods of education in US history that seemed to have worked more effectively. Smaller class size is not the only way to remedy the problem.

11 posted on 06/23/2006 9:08:12 PM PDT by old republic
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To: NormsRevenge
The money could be used only for specific purposes, such as reducing class sizes, buying textbooks and improving school safety.

And THIS time, they really mean it....it actually WILL go to these specific things and they WON'T divert it to administration, junkets and other goodies.

You believe them, don't you?

12 posted on 06/23/2006 9:09:48 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: NormsRevenge

Good grief. This is definitely a HELL NO. Education in CA is a black hole. Break the unions first.


13 posted on 06/23/2006 9:41:26 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace higher taxes with Angelides.)
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To: old republic
You know if they made property requirments a voter qualification again

Kerry and Gore wouldn't have gotten so very close to winning and I suspect the CA state legislature's makeup would change course from the tinfoil moonbat Marxist progressive ideology.

14 posted on 06/23/2006 9:42:58 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace higher taxes with Angelides.)
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To: umgud
When I lived in California, my default for was no for all tax increases. The politicians have always demonstrated complete irresponsibility with public funds. The lottery was instituted with the fraudulent claim that some large percentage would go to education. It surely does, but the amounts from the lottery are ripped out of prior education allocations to spend on other "good deeds". Even so, California spends a huge amount of money annually for each student and gets a really terrible return on the investment. Much of the money pays for ritzy adminstrative personnel who never get near a classroom.
15 posted on 06/23/2006 9:46:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: NormsRevenge

When some sleazebag politician wants to get their fingers in your wallet, it's always "about the children".


16 posted on 06/23/2006 10:09:03 PM PDT by bordergal (uis)
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To: NormsRevenge
Since this is a Property tax it will not pass with a simple majority. I believe it 2/3 vote to raise property tax in California. (Prop 13 rule)
17 posted on 06/23/2006 10:16:21 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Red is good)
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To: umgud
"I'm in CA. I never vote money..."

That much I understand and concur with.

However, when I couldn't get a decent hamburger in Coronado for less than 8 bucks -- ad it took me 35 minutes to drive from my construction job site to my home on First Street (0.8 miles), we hauled a@@ -- and never looked back.

Best decision I made in years! WE are required to go back from time to time for business and family matters, but I cannot leave SoCal fast enough en-route back to Bullhead City. (Even if the current temp is well over 100 degrees (at 10 PM) **S**

Kalifornia, in my view, is in the process of self-destructing. And, one other minor factor: In Coronado I paid three times as much for utilities as I am currently paying, which was a real surprise, as I didn't use air conditioning there. Whats going on???
18 posted on 06/23/2006 10:16:37 PM PDT by dk/coro
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To: bordergal

No taxes are needed for the schools rather the education system in California needs to be closely audited. IMO, the graft and corruption within the system would boggle the mind not to mention the total waste of tax dollars. As a matter of fact, I would bet that holds true for every state in the country. The sad and pathetic fact remains that a better education was provided in the 19th century in one-room school houses. $$ doesn't equate to a quality education. Today's public schools are a perfect example of that.


19 posted on 06/23/2006 10:24:31 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: old republic

I am a big fan of smaller class sizes. We are putting my daughters in private school because we feel that they (especially one of them) will do much better in a small class.

However, I won't give vote yes on any measure that gives more money to my school district (San Jose Unified). They are horrible, and they mismanage money.

I'm a big fan of charter schools and vouchers.


20 posted on 06/23/2006 10:30:39 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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