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1 posted on 06/22/2006 5:47:52 AM PDT by Freeport
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Here is how the liberals are responding to the announcement of the discovery of WMDs in Iraq. They are using quotes from FOX News Chanel's Jim Angle, to discredit the announcement:
"Fox News’ Jim Angle contacted the Defense Department who quickly disavowed Santorum and Hoekstra’s claims. A Defense Department official told Angle flatly that the munitions hyped by Santorum and Hoekstra are “not the WMD’s for which this country went to war.”

The liberals then say they are degraded weapons and are no threat, so they really aren't WMDs.

My responses is that the reason fro the UN Sanctions were to find and destroy all of Iraq's WMDs and the onus was on Iraq to do so. 500 degraded shells filled with nerve agents are still extremely lethal from all I have read and heard. It would be great to hear from someone who can verify this.


2 posted on 06/22/2006 5:49:34 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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We know about chemical weapons (mustard & sarin) as well as radioactive material (1.77 metric tons of enriched material) in pursuit of nuclear weapons (Niger yellowcake), but have there been any reports of weapon materials since the mobile bio weapons labs were found?

Media won't report it, but that is the CHEMICAL, BIOLOGICAL, and NUCLEAR weapons that the DUmocrats gave lip service about during the Clinton years.


4 posted on 06/22/2006 5:53:35 AM PDT by RasterMaster ("Big Tents" you get Clowns & Circus Freaks! The road to HELL is paved with LIEberals!)
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The demonrats are in 'dream world' again. Living one's life in 'dream world' causes people living in the 'real world' to have grief. The 'dream worlders' refusal to admit the truth can cause the deaths of 'real worlders'. America is bless with many in 'dream world'. We 'real worlders' have a monumental task to bring the 'dream worlders' back to the 'real world'. If we fail, people will probably die. Get the 'dream worlders' out of politics now, for the sake of the current and future generations health and safety.


5 posted on 06/22/2006 5:55:26 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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I am sorry, but this cannot be true. I saw the story on Fox News, but when I went to NBC, ABC and the others, they only mentioned it like it might be a rumor or something.

Even on Fox, Colmes was quick to point out the Democrat talking points that these are old warheads that are not dangerous any more...of course, he wouldn't offer to store them in his garage... but still, these aren't the WMD that Bush talked about.

Did Saddam have WMD... OK, maybe but they were old.
Did Saddam ship his newer WMD to Syria... There is no proof.
Did Saddam use WMD on his people...well, that's not important.
Is the USA safer since the war in Iraq?? What was the question?

These guys have already started spinning this to avoid taking any responsibility for being flat out wrong!


7 posted on 06/22/2006 5:59:47 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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Drudge picked up the story, which will force the alphabets to address this.


8 posted on 06/22/2006 6:01:45 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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Anyone who thinks Iraq didn't have WMD's is a freaking idiot.

Of course they had WMD's ! THEY FREAKING USED THEM ON THEIR PEOPLE !

Saying that Iraq didn't have WMD's because we hadn't found them yet is as stupid as saying the Jimmy Hoffa didn't exist because we haven't found his corpse.
14 posted on 06/22/2006 6:09:29 AM PDT by conservative physics (only a liberal could think boys with energy are mental, but boys attracted to other boys are normal)
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[T]he report unveiled by Senator Rick Santorum...

Unveiled by Santorum?
That fact alone is enough to discredit this discovery in the minds of democRATS.
Next to President Bush and Donald Rumsfeld, Santorum is the Republican the left most loves to villify.

16 posted on 06/22/2006 6:14:04 AM PDT by XR7
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Check out Google News:

http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&q=


Nothing on the front page about WMD. Zip. Zilch.

As predicted yesterday, the MSM will disavow and ignore this story.
17 posted on 06/22/2006 6:16:20 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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My understanding is that the mustard gas tends to polymerize over time (becomes gooey). OTOH, the Sarin has quite a long shelf life...especially if the binary shells are used.

The liberals who discredit this report have no basis to do so without a lot more detailed information. At the very least, these finds demonstrate that the weapons inspectors were unable to do a satisfactory job (due to interference by Saddam).
19 posted on 06/22/2006 6:17:33 AM PDT by kidd (If God is your co-pilot, try switching seats)
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excuses from Democrats I have already heard:

"these were not the WMDs we were looking for"
"they are degraded"
"they are from pre-91'"

my favorite: "we knew about these WMD"


21 posted on 06/22/2006 6:18:13 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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Notice that the foreign presstitutes, who are not completely invested in the "Bush lied" mantra, actually see this as a story, while crAP and their ilk, which are completely invested in said mantra, don't.


24 posted on 06/22/2006 6:22:41 AM PDT by steveegg (If the illegals would turn Mexico Red if they were forced there, why wouldn't they do that here?)
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Media dismisses; Pentagon bureaucrats assist them:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/21/AR2006062101837.html


28 posted on 06/22/2006 6:30:09 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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Attn to All:

It does not matter if the war heads are pre 1991, nor does it matter if they are not the WMD that were the stockpiles that we thought Saddam had... the onus was on Saddam to declare all WMD in his disarmament obligations laid out in the many United Nations Security Council Resolutions (UNSCRs). Saddam did not regarding these WMD, therefore, he was in breach of his disarmament obligations.


32 posted on 06/22/2006 6:31:19 AM PDT by avacado
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Timing is everything.

RATS like Nancy Pelosi need to run for cover.

She has banked on a Democratic comeback in November.

Sounds like the Republicans are following a timetable that probably has been tested and tested before put into production.

It is probably a coup that President George W. Bush has selected a top person at Fox News for a post at the White House.

I think I can see of the magic and savvy of Carl Rove in these moves.

So the big bad DemoRATS (wolves in sheep's clothing) are going to huff and puff and try to blow down the titanium-composite materials house house built by the Republicans and various conservative coalitions.

This is really bad news for the Natural Gas market, as there appears to excess supplies of HOT AIR coming from New York, Massachusetts and California, where now TRILLIONS of UNTAPPED RESERVES of HOT AIR have been found that will erode the price NATURAL GAS on the markets today.

Dept of Energy is set to release weekly figures on Natural Gas at 10:30am...

On the downside, there may some immense explosions in these states because of such an enormous release of hot air.

Global Warming Scientists are very concerned about this explosion of HOT AIR coming from the RATS and may make a statement that AL GORE himself and friends might actually be the cause of GLOBAL WARMING because of all the hot air he and his friends are venting into the atmosphere at enormous rates...

News at 11 with more hot air to follow...

38 posted on 06/22/2006 6:37:31 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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The best response is that John Kerry is a liar... He said there were NO repeat NO that means NONE WMD found in Iraq... He Lied to the American People and he is lying to this day...


45 posted on 06/22/2006 6:47:41 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Self pity and the sour sounds of Liberal whining will certainly frighten away any chance of success.)
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Okay move the goal posts back another 100 yards.....
48 posted on 06/22/2006 6:49:50 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Mmmmmhmmmmm....


52 posted on 06/22/2006 6:54:50 AM PDT by Allegra (I'm Shizophrenic. No, I'm Not. Yes, I Am. No, I'm NOT. Are TOO. Am NOT.)
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The libs are trying to paint these weapons as so degraded as to be nearly safe. No doubt we will see Jack Murtha over there soon, sipping a glass of degraded sarin to prove how "safe" it really is.

In the meantime, the United States Army Arsenal at Umatilla Weapons Depot, in Umatilla Oregon, continues to operate a high tech incinerator that is destroying the Cold-War era chemical munitions stored there. Strangely, the 1950's vintage chemical weapons are thought to be dangerous enough to require complete containment of the incinerator building, and full chemical protective gear for anyone who goes anywhere near the old munitions. Authorized personnel cannot even enter a storage bunker without protective gear, because the old munitions are capable of leaking the still potent nerve agents.

So to summarize, 500 pre-1991 Iraqi chemical munitions are not to be considered as WMD's and are seriously "degraded", while 1950's era chemical munitions stored in the US are leaky, but the chemicals themselves retain full potency.

Puzzling...


55 posted on 06/22/2006 6:57:08 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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Neither ABC, CBS, NBC nor CNN have reported on this story yet.

CNN: (404) 827-2600
ABC: (212) 456-4040
CBS: (212) 975-3691
NBC: (212) 664-4971


61 posted on 06/22/2006 7:05:12 AM PDT by Peach (Iraq/AlQaeda relationship http://markeichenlaub.blogspot.com/2006/06/strategic-relationship-between.)
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WHY has the Administration waited so long to release and publicize this material?

There was NO DOUBT whatsoever in my mind, the minds of most intelligent services of prior administrations, the minds of intelligence services of other nations, all of Saddam's neighbors, most of his military and the Iraqi people themselves that Saddam had WMD.

ONLY the Democrats and the Leftist Media - AFTER our invasion - seemed to feel that we were chasing a ghost.

There were SO MANY valid reasons for invading IRAQ. WMDs being merely ONE of them.

The Administration has failed to clearly and concisely elucidate them, publicize them, and demolish the imbecilic posture of the Dems on this subject.

These facts should be hammered at again and again whenever the Dems bring up our invasion of Iraq.


63 posted on 06/22/2006 7:06:54 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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