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Two Dead in Shooting Inside Federal Florida Prison (Tallahassee)
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Posted on 06/21/2006 9:01:15 AM PDT by davidosborne

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — A guard at a federal detention center opened fire as investigators came to arrest him and five other guards Wednesday, starting a gunfight that killed two people and wounded another, the FBI said.

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To: Restorer
"With all due respect, this type of idiocy is more or less inevitable when you put men in positions of authority and control over women."

Not necessarily. I'd say it's more likely to happen when you put high-functioning morons in charge of anything.
21 posted on 06/21/2006 9:57:00 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Restorer
Obviously, lesbian guards could still do somewhat similar stuff, but I bet it would be a great deal less likely.

Pun Intended?
Please, some of us have to eat lunch at our desks!

22 posted on 06/21/2006 10:05:13 AM PDT by orlop9
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To: davidosborne

Another example of why only citizens should have guns and not government.


23 posted on 06/21/2006 10:08:11 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: davidosborne

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Latin for:
Who is to guard the guards themselves?


24 posted on 06/21/2006 10:16:00 AM PDT by 109ACS (Humpty Dumpty was pushed!)
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To: El Laton Caliente
By the term "Trailer-Parkians", I meant the attitude/life-style, not wher someone had to live due to economics.

There are a lot of people who live in trailer parks that are on their way up the ladder and this is just a way of making ends meet. They're biding their time and making the best of a bad situation and they'll soon move on beyond the trailer parks.

The other group consists of those who could win a half million$ in the lottery and their first purchase would be a double-wide. They are the true "Trailer-Parkians".

25 posted on 06/21/2006 10:23:04 AM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "The time has come to take the bull by the tail and face the situation".)
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To: beachn4fun

What is that? A full length bulletproof vest or a bad Battlestar Galactica wardrobe from ebay?


26 posted on 06/21/2006 10:26:42 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My Pug is On Her War Footing (and moving to Texas!))
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To: lilylangtree

I can't believe they couldn't keep their one-eyed-dragons in their cages! Who'd a thunk it? /sarc


27 posted on 06/21/2006 11:23:36 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: davidosborne

Do you have a link and source for the update?


28 posted on 06/21/2006 1:01:24 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: davidosborne
The representative from the Department of Justice believes this was the first time an inspector general agent was killed in the line of duty.

Interesting. Hard to sympathize when the Federal government will not control illegal immigration, excessively taxes us, gives themselves raises in good times and bad (Congress), etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum. The guards were wrong -- no argument -- but the outrage of injustice from the Federal government produces little sympathy.

29 posted on 06/21/2006 1:08:38 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: davidosborne

Oh, and the part about "Never threaten anyone..." came in to play here. The "Inspector General" did not expect the guards to be armed. Suprise!


30 posted on 06/21/2006 1:09:26 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: davidosborne

Oh, and the part about "Never threaten anyone..." came in to play here. The "Inspector General" did not expect the guards to be armed. Surprise!


31 posted on 06/21/2006 1:09:36 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: davidosborne
The agents were not expecting the prison guards to be armed, the official said, though he could not immediately explain why.

Because prison guards are never armed if they are in a location where prisoners might be able to grab the weapon.

32 posted on 06/21/2006 1:11:44 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: davidosborne

Do Federal prisons allow weapons inside? I worked 23 years in New York State prisons and no weapons were allowed down inside...ever. Weapons were only on wall towers and vehicle patrol outside the fence.


33 posted on 06/21/2006 1:42:08 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: davidosborne
The six guards were indicted by a grand jury Tuesday on charges alleging, among other things, that they exchanged contraband such as alcohol, drugs and money for sex with female inmates over a two-year period and used it to buy inmates' silence. When FBI agents and Justice Department investigators arrived at the center Wednesday morning to arrest the six men, one of the indicted guards shot a federal correctional institution officer, said FBI spokesman John Girgenti. He said the officers fired back.

The agents were not expecting the prison guards to be armed, the law enforcement official told the AP, though he could not immediately explain why.

Just damn.

34 posted on 06/21/2006 3:50:55 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Restorer
"Common sense, IMHO.'

You're kidding, right?

The sex of the miscreants is not the problem..
The CHARACTER of the miscreant guards is the problem....

Federal Employees, with responsibilities such as this -- should be capable of lawful behavior and keeping their dicks in their pants while on duty.....

Semper Fi

35 posted on 06/21/2006 4:16:20 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Federal Employees, with responsibilities such as this -- should be capable of lawful behavior and keeping their dicks in their pants while on duty
Well maybe they figured if it was OK for Clinton then....
36 posted on 06/21/2006 4:23:08 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: river rat

Not kidding at all.

While I agree with your comments, it is a great deal easier to sort applicants for the position by their sex than by their strength of character.

Per your signoff: The Marines are the only branch of the military that has sex-segregated basic training. All others have integrated basic, and have had sex scandals as a result.

Going by your criteria, apparently the Marine brass don't think they can find potential drill instructors with the ability to keep their pants zipped while on duty.

Or perhaps they recognize that attempting to win an argument with biology is not a good idea.

While the guards involved here should be punished to the fullest extent, I would be surprised if the idea wasn't brought up by inmates who wanted the booze, etc. Leaving men in constant contact with women coming on to them is not a good idea. (If you want the men to continue to think straight.)


37 posted on 06/22/2006 5:50:45 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: davidosborne
The inspector general agent was killed.

William "Buddy" Sentner. When injustice prevails, it is very difficult to have ANY sympathy for fellows like the late Mr. Sentner. Yes, the guards were wrong. However, when the FBI, the ATF, CPS (Children's Protective Services), etc. overstep their bounds, they create deep-seated anger which requires justice. Yes, the guards will be tried and punished appropriately. When the public becomes fed up with official injustice, though, the amount of cooperation over the long term with authorities to find criminals will come to zero.

38 posted on 06/23/2006 7:57:50 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: davidosborne

And worst of all, the Federal government has not and will not take lawful action regarding illegal immigration. They are de facto handing our country over to a foreign entity -- culturally and religiously. It is inexcusable and leaves me to not care what happens to any of them as the overall government has betrayed those of us who have paid taxes all of our lives and now have difficulty living, rearing our children due to their constant meddling, taxation, regulation and apathy about our welfare. The government has NO RIGHT to tell me how to handle MY children when my children excel on standardized tests and in almost every activity in which they are involved and are moral and upright individuals whose character and motivation is praised by every teacher who teaches them.


39 posted on 06/23/2006 8:06:37 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; ...

Surely you are NOT suggesting that Mr. Sentner (who was doing his job) deserved to be shot by the person he was serving an lawful arrest warrant to? As a law enforcement officer myself I take great offense to that suggestion, I hate "bad cops" as much as any other citizen does.. please do not paint all of us in the law enforcement proffession with such a broad brush. Direct your anger towards the "BAD COPS" not the ones doing their job.


40 posted on 06/23/2006 10:43:29 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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