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They were such good boys..../s
1 posted on 06/17/2006 4:14:38 AM PDT by cbkaty
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To: cbkaty

Disgusting. Absolutely DISGUSTING !!


2 posted on 06/17/2006 4:23:56 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: cbkaty

The father is more forgiving than I would be.


3 posted on 06/17/2006 4:25:35 AM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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TX doesn't have any kind of homicide provision for a death that occurs during the commission of a felony?


4 posted on 06/17/2006 4:25:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: cbkaty

"just a crime spree."

Yeah, I guess that's okay, then.


5 posted on 06/17/2006 4:26:25 AM PDT by livius
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To: cbkaty
Hit and Run resulting in death?

Child endangerment, resulting in Death?

Child abuse, resulting in Death?

Don't these apply? Lord knows in Indiana if you run a traffic light they charge you with 20 to 25 counts of anything they can attatch, then plead it all down.

10 posted on 06/17/2006 4:35:12 AM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: cbkaty
The three are accused of robbing Luis Garcia at gunpoint at a car wash in the 8300 block

Over the years of reading crime stories on FR I've noticed a lot of crimes take place at whatever thousand block address and not so many at say 52 Shady Lane.

14 posted on 06/17/2006 4:44:36 AM PDT by xp38
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To: cbkaty

A death occurred in the course of the commision that was indubitible caused by the commission of that crime. In most states that is felony murder. What is wrong in TEXAS of all places???


15 posted on 06/17/2006 4:44:47 AM PDT by arthurus (It was better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: cbkaty

So they beat up and mugged a family, threw a two year old down on the pavement, jumped in the family's car, and ran over and killed the two-year-old...but they didn't mean to kill her?

Wouldn't a rational person expect that if they threw down a two year old in a parking lot or road near a car they were "carjacking", that the child might well be injured or killed by the car or another car?

In a common sense world, it would be easy to prove that such malicious disregard for life in the commission of a robbery does indeed amount to murder.

But no, not according the the grandly nuanced legal "meanings" employed by our jurisprudence.


16 posted on 06/17/2006 4:44:53 AM PDT by olderwiser
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Carjackers should be treated like horse thieves used to be treated! Carjacking will become less popular.


17 posted on 06/17/2006 4:45:42 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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I thought there was a Federal charge that could be levied ... wasn't that Vermont death penalty case about carjacking? Checking ...


18 posted on 06/17/2006 4:50:39 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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They were carjacking with guns drawn and an innocent child was killed in the process.

What more does there need to be?

They should never be free again. Ever.


20 posted on 06/17/2006 4:52:04 AM PDT by DB (©)
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Yah ... somebody in Texas get hold of the prosecutor and the US Attorney. See Judge Who Ruled Death Penalty Unconstitutional Sentences Man to Death, operative sentence: Federal prosecutors brought charges under a U.S. law that allows the death penalty for a carjacking that results in a death. Heck, if that law is enough to force a death penalty in Vermont over the objections of the presiding judge, it ought to be good enough for Texas. Jeez, where have all the cowboys gone?
22 posted on 06/17/2006 4:55:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
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Charged with aggravated robbery were Bakari Holland, 18; Koty Holmes, 19, and Rashard Renfro, 23.

Shocked!

26 posted on 06/17/2006 5:08:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("The root of the state is in the family. The root of the family is in the person of its head.")
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"Though the toddler was killed in the commission of a crime, Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal said, a capital murder charge would have been hard to prove."

I'm sure  Rosenthal would have found murder charges easier to prove if the toddler was a Police officer
28 posted on 06/17/2006 5:14:20 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: cbkaty

I suggest we all take a moment to....celebrate diversity!


29 posted on 06/17/2006 5:14:47 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: cbkaty

I am not buying into this. Even if he could not prove intent to kill and go for the DP, there is no way you can tell me killing someone during the commission of a felony can not be charged.

These three scumbags will be out in less than 10 years to kill again.


31 posted on 06/17/2006 5:20:08 AM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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This case reminds me of another one where someone hit a person over the head with a brick during a robbery. The person who was hit with the brick was killed. But the robber wasn't charged with murder, since prosecutors felt they couldn't prove the robber "intended" to kill the victim.

I say when you clobber people over the head with bricks, you must rationally assume it could kill them.

And when you throw toddlers down on the ground during your carjacking, you should assume you are putting them in a life-threatening situation.


36 posted on 06/17/2006 5:33:41 AM PDT by olderwiser
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To: cbkaty

Any pics of the perps? I couldn't find any is why I asked.


38 posted on 06/17/2006 5:45:57 AM PDT by sport
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Did we used to have a law here that said something about a "death during the commission of a robbery"?
46 posted on 06/17/2006 6:18:16 AM PDT by Ditter
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"made arrangements to bury their daughter in Mexico"

Why in Mexico? Just curious.

49 posted on 06/17/2006 6:29:02 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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