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3 escape murder charges in carjacking death of toddler (Update)
Houston Chronicle ^
| June 17, 2006, 1:12AM
| ARMANDO VILLAFRANCA
Posted on 06/17/2006 4:14:34 AM PDT by cbkaty
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They were such good boys..../s
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:14:38 AM PDT
by
cbkaty
To: cbkaty
Disgusting. Absolutely DISGUSTING !!
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:23:56 AM PDT
by
proudofthesouth
(Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
To: cbkaty
The father is more forgiving than I would be.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:25:35 AM PDT
by
secret garden
(Dubiety reigns here)
To: cbkaty
TX doesn't have any kind of homicide provision for a death that occurs during the commission of a felony?
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:25:45 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: cbkaty
"just a crime spree."
Yeah, I guess that's okay, then.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:26:25 AM PDT
by
livius
To: proudofthesouth
How about manslaughter as a minimum... and 1st degree murder as the most appropriate charge...followed by a quick trip to the Huntsville, Texas death chamber?
What are these apologists at the Harris County Prosecutors office thinking?
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:27:24 AM PDT
by
cbkaty
(I may not always post...but I am always here......)
To: mewzilla
TX doesn't have any kind of homicide provision for a death that occurs during the commission of a felony? Yes...so I wonder.......if there is some other "in-the-hood" reason for not pulling the trigger on these......punks?
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:30:06 AM PDT
by
cbkaty
(I may not always post...but I am always here......)
To: cbkaty
According to the coverage on some of Houston's TV stations, the alleged perps didn't have jobs and were living off the proceeds of their robberies.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:32:29 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: cbkaty
something is fishy with this, they pulled a twoyear old out of a car and ran over her. Why not sencond degree murder? There's something else going on.
To: cbkaty
Hit and Run resulting in death?
Child endangerment, resulting in Death?
Child abuse, resulting in Death?
Don't these apply? Lord knows in Indiana if you run a traffic light they charge you with 20 to 25 counts of anything they can attatch, then plead it all down.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:35:12 AM PDT
by
Kakaze
(American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
To: mockingbyrd
something is fishy with this, they pulled a twoyear old out of a car and ran over her. Why not sencond degree murder? There's something else going on.This is one for the hispanic community....they should react the same as the black community would....had the child been black and the carjackers hispanic.....
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:36:01 AM PDT
by
cbkaty
(I may not always post...but I am always here......)
To: mockingbyrd
Intent's the problem. But since she dies during the commission of a felony, what does intent matter? If they hadn't robbed the family, she wouldn't have died. If TX doesn't have a provision for this in its law, they need to change the law.
If they do have a provision for this, however, and the DA's too missish to use it, they need a new DA.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:37:02 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: mewzilla
If they do have a provision for this, however, and the DA's too missish to use it, they need a new DA. It was late Friday night....the DA was tired....the staff just wanted a beer...so they wrapped up the quickest charge (least paper required)and headed to the local pub...where all had a good time......./s
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:40:41 AM PDT
by
cbkaty
(I may not always post...but I am always here......)
To: cbkaty
The three are accused of robbing Luis Garcia at gunpoint at a car wash in the 8300 blockOver the years of reading crime stories on FR I've noticed a lot of crimes take place at whatever thousand block address and not so many at say 52 Shady Lane.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:44:36 AM PDT
by
xp38
To: cbkaty
A death occurred in the course of the commision that was indubitible caused by the commission of that crime. In most states that is felony murder. What is wrong in TEXAS of all places???
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:44:47 AM PDT
by
arthurus
(It was better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
To: cbkaty
So they beat up and mugged a family, threw a two year old down on the pavement, jumped in the family's car, and ran over and killed the two-year-old...but they didn't mean to kill her?
Wouldn't a rational person expect that if they threw down a two year old in a parking lot or road near a car they were "carjacking", that the child might well be injured or killed by the car or another car?
In a common sense world, it would be easy to prove that such malicious disregard for life in the commission of a robbery does indeed amount to murder.
But no, not according the the grandly nuanced legal "meanings" employed by our jurisprudence.
To: cbkaty
Carjackers should be treated like horse thieves used to be treated! Carjacking will become less popular.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:45:42 AM PDT
by
maica
(Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
To: cbkaty
I thought there was a Federal charge that could be levied ... wasn't that Vermont death penalty case about carjacking? Checking ...
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:50:39 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
("So to hell with that twerp at the [WaPo]. I've got no time for him on a day like this." Mark Steyn)
To: olderwiser
Death caused in the commission of a felony assault and robbery.
All the perps ought to be looking at imminent execution.
And the prosecutor at permanent employment picking up roadside trash after being convicted of malfeasance and dereliction of duty.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:51:30 AM PDT
by
hoosierham
(Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
To: cbkaty
They were carjacking with guns drawn and an innocent child was killed in the process.
What more does there need to be?
They should never be free again. Ever.
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posted on
06/17/2006 4:52:04 AM PDT
by
DB
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