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How Cromwell gave us Joan Collins and other luminaries
The Daily Telegraph ^ | 17 June 2006 | Charles Moore

Posted on 06/17/2006 12:42:49 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy

Exactly 350 years ago, we began to be a multi-racial society. 1656 marked the return of Jews to England. They had been driven out by an edict of Edward I in 1290. In the intervening centuries - known as the Middle Period - Jews quite often came to this country on business, but they were not permitted to reside here or practise their religion. Their status, in fact, was that of Christians (and Jews) in Saudi Arabia today. In 1656, Cromwell let 300 of them return, and Jews have been here ever since.

Among the eventual consequences of this re-admission have been Benjamin Disraeli, Ludwig Wittgenstein, Yehudi Menuhin, Peter Sellers, Joan Collins, Arthur Koestler, Alan Sugar, Nigella Lawson, Lucien Freud, Tom Stoppard and Sid James.

And why not add Max Perutz, Ali G, Ernst Chain, Jimmy Goldsmith, Miriam Rothschild, Melanie Klein, Alfred Brendel, Bernard Lewis, Emeric Pressburger, Harold Pinter, Sigmund Warburg, Keith Joseph, George Weidenfeld, Karl Popper, Ronald Harwood, Ernst Gombrich, Simon Schama, Jonathan Miller, Philip Green, Rachel Weisz and Robert Winston?

Or Isaiah Berlin, Jacob Bronowski, Rosalind Franklin, Harold Abrahams, Alexander Korda, George Solti, Denis Norden, Muriel Spark, Siegfried Sassoon, Jacob Epstein, Daniel Day-Lewis, Nigel Lawson, Janet Reger, Marjorie Proops, Sam Mendes, Stirling Moss and Bernard Levin? It is even claimed that David Beckham, if not technically a Jew, is, as the old joke has it, Jew-ish.

(And since into each life a little rain must fall, one might also note Michael Winner, Esther Rantzen, Eric Hobsbawm, Jerry Springer, Edwina Currie and Robert Maxwell on the debit side of the ledger.)

Anyone who has ever studied at a university, needed good doctors, shopped at Marks & Spencer or Tesco, benefited from scientific invention, listened to classical music, sought accountants or lawyers, watched a film, bought a book or needed his head examined, has gained from Cromwell's decision. The Jewish contribution is so great that it pervades almost all aspects of British society.

I have named individual Jews deliberately because, though it is always dangerous to generalise, even favourably, about race, it does seem to my gentile eyes that there is more prodigious ability and energy per Jew than per the rest of us. The community here has never been enormous - at present, it is somewhere between 250,000 and 400,000 - but it has achievements out of proportion to its size. I like Herbert Samuel's claim that "The Jews are the same as everybody else, only more so".

But the interesting thing for British society today is to ask why such a people have been able to overcome prejudices that at first excluded them absolutely and later accepted them only on qualified terms (Jews could not sit in Parliament until the mid-19th century, for example). The answer could be useful for everyone.

The key, perhaps, is to be found in one of the earliest reports of Jews in England after their return. On October 14, 1663, Samuel Pepys found a way of visiting a synagogue in London (something very unusual for a Gentile at that time). In his diary, he described the service which he witnessed. He did not like it ("I never… could have imagined there had been any religion in the whole world so absurdly performed as this"), but he also noted that the Jews said a special prayer for the King. In other words, they accepted the civil power.

The Jews did not do this just to save their skins by sucking up to Charles II: they did it because it was part of their religious duty. It still is. No believing Jew will obey a civil law that forces him to disobey his religious law - eat pork, for example. But if there is no conflict, his religion teaches him that he must obey the law of the land. In the Talmud, the question arises of whether you should pay taxes to a secular king. Yes, comes the answer, because "The law of the kingdom is the law". In the standard collection, called Ethics of the Fathers, which brings together rabbinical wisdom over the centuries, Jews are told: "Pray for the welfare of the government, for, without the fear of it, people will swallow one another alive."

Even the most cursory study of Jewish life shows that it is full of disputes. There are splits between orthodox and reformed Jews, and within orthodoxy. There are thousands of secular Jews who feel very Jewish, but refuse to have their Jewishness defined by religion. There is ceaseless, often angry argument: when you read the Christian Gospels, you find that one of the most common scenes is of learned men quarrelling. That is still the case in Jewish culture.

But because of this basic agreement among Jews about the status of the secular law, the effect of these quarrels on the wider society is minimal. It is significant that virtually no one reading this article will have heard of Dayan Chanoch Ehrentreu. He is the chief justice of the Beth Din, the Chief Rabbi's court which adjudicates on the endless delicate points of Jewish law, often relating to diet or Sabbath observance, which come up within the community.

If Judaism were an aggressive religion, seeking to lay down its law for all mankind, then this supremely learned old gentleman could acquire menacing power. Like the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran after 1979, Dayan Ehrentreu could tell people to kill in the name of God. Instead, his effect is the opposite. By policing so meticulously the difference between the precise duties of Jews and the duty to society at large, this scholar helps define the space necessary for people with beliefs quite at variance with those of the majority to live harmoniously among them. In this sense, people can be "fundamentalist" and yet perfectly at home in a society which is not. For 2,000 years, Jews have developed a subtle understanding of the difference between the ideal society that would exist if God's laws prevailed everywhere and the world as it is.

Without this understanding, people do indeed "swallow one another alive" and - one might add in the era of suicide bombings - swallow themselves in the process.

With this understanding, a minority community can develop enough confidence and win enough acceptance to do good beyond the confines of itself. The Jewish concept of mitzvah, on which David Cameron dwelt when he made a speech celebrating the 350 years last week, means a good deed done for its own sake. Such deeds are visible in the importance that Jews attach to charity and to education. British society needs a lot more mitzvahs. There is also the idea of "chesed", man's kindness to all men, as first shown by Abraham when he entertained angels unawares. Thus does a potentially very closed community open itself out. The difference between majority and minority is very real - but not antagonistic.

In the past half-century, Muslims have come where the Jews came earlier, and in much larger numbers. Like such Jews, they have sometimes experienced the unhappiness that comes when one's religion is misunderstood or derided. Unlike the Jews, too many of their leaders tend to teach them that such slights must be avenged, that existence as a minority is just a temporary misfortune, not a state to be lived with, and that the law of England is virtually no law at all. If that attitude continues, society is reduced to a conflict about who will swallow whom alive. To avoid that is a huge and urgent task.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: assimilation; cromwell; eu; europe; islam; jews; judaism; minority; multiculturalism; racism; simonschama; unitedkingdom
I think the article contains some very important observations. The reason previous waves of immigrants have been succesfully assimilated in our western countries can be ascribed to this sentence:

Give to the emperor the things that are the emperor's, and to God the things that are God's.

But a culture/religion that teaches "existence as a minority is just a temporary misfortune, not a state to be lived with, and that the law of ... [the host country]... is virtually no law at all" will never be a able to succesfully integrate. Islam just as Marxism will never be able to co-exist in our free society - there will always be strife.

1 posted on 06/17/2006 12:42:53 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy
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To: SJackson; Alouette; Slings and Arrows; rmlew; MadIvan

Ping!


2 posted on 06/17/2006 12:44:46 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Thanks for the post. Cromwell is one of my heros and this is very welcomed. You hit the proverbial nail on the head in your comment.

kind regards


3 posted on 06/17/2006 12:52:48 AM PDT by vimto ("I've seen the future of Islam, Guess what? We won!")
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To: ScaniaBoy

"In the past half-century, Muslims have come where the Jews came earlier, and in much larger numbers"


Without a powerful liberal influence, a powerful , conservative society would exclude mass Muslim immigration.


4 posted on 06/17/2006 2:07:39 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ScaniaBoy
Gee, I think I could make a list of distinguished British Jews just as long, and in every field...

I salute Siegfried Sassoon, Welsh Guards officer and one of the best poets of the First World War, and Brian Epstein, the manager who lifted the Beatles from obscurity and brought their talent to the world, to name only two Twentieth Century figures.

How about Jason Isaacs, an actor whose range let him play the creepy Draco Malfoy in the Harry Potter movies, the cold-blooded villain Tavington in "The Patriot," and the redneck, humourless Captain Steel in "Black Hawk Down"? -- by his own description, a "neurotic Jewish guy."

I think more than just the willingness of the religion to accept secular authority separates Britain's Jews from her Muslim fifth column, though. To me, the key metric is this:

Christian Britons
Median IQ: 100
Ashkenazy Jewish Britons
Median IQ: 115
Muslim Britons
Median IQ: 80

So -- is Jewish acceptance of national, secular authority a cause, or an effect?

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

5 posted on 06/17/2006 2:39:46 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (America has no native criminal class, apart from Congress -- Mark Twain)
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To: ScaniaBoy

"If that attitude continues, society is reduced to a conflict about who will swallow whom alive. To avoid that is a huge and urgent task"

To "avoid that" is simply to put it off. The question of whether or not there will be a conflict is answered when an aggressor rises. This conflict is well on its way.


6 posted on 06/17/2006 3:28:18 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Christian Britons . . . Median IQ: 100
Ashkenazy Jewish Britons . . . Median IQ: 115
Muslim Britons . . . Median IQ: 80

I'm curious as to where you got these figures. Not doubting you, just curious and wonder if you could post a source. Well, 80 does seem a little high.

7 posted on 06/17/2006 4:26:22 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: vimto
I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you. Said a long, long time back, but I can't find any reference that revokes the promise.
8 posted on 06/17/2006 5:21:43 AM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: ScaniaBoy

Good article and an excellent statement. There needs to be more of this in the anti-semitic world we live in.


9 posted on 06/17/2006 5:38:44 AM PDT by RoadTest (“Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil” –Thomas Mann)
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To: ScaniaBoy
In the standard collection, called Ethics of the Fathers, which brings together rabbinical wisdom over the centuries, Jews are told: "Pray for the welfare of the government, for, without the fear of it, people will swallow one another alive."

A bit of a difference between this and Washington's view of government.

10 posted on 06/17/2006 6:05:57 AM PDT by ikka
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To: ScaniaBoy
Oliver Cromwell was a fanatic who practiced what can only be described as a type of religious genocide against Catholics. His activities in Ireland would be called war crimes today. What is interesting is the light articles like this throw not on Cromwell but on political correctness today. Cromwell gets positive press because of his actions that benefited an approved minority, Jews, but his brutal suppression of disapproved of groups, the Irish and Catholics, is largely ignored. Anti-racism is a moral fraud.
11 posted on 06/17/2006 9:22:02 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: ScaniaBoy

Nice catch. Bump.


12 posted on 06/18/2006 10:37:38 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: Fred Nerks

from June 2006.


13 posted on 04/06/2007 8:33:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Without this understanding, people do indeed "swallow one another alive" and - one might add in the era of suicide bombings - swallow themselves in the process.

Like, there's got to be pony in there somewhere?

14 posted on 04/06/2007 8:56:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum Aussie.)
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