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1 posted on 06/15/2006 6:45:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie holds up a copy of a document purported to have come from a computer found at the scene after the U.S. airstrike on Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, at a press conference in the heavily fortified Green Zone in Baghdad, Iraq Thursday, June 15, 2006. Documents and computer records seized after the raid on Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's hideout have given the Iraqi government the upper hand in its fight against al-Qaida in Iraq, the national security adviser claimed Thursday. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)


2 posted on 06/15/2006 6:46:19 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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In a story posted on Drudge, one of the documents ends with the following:

Let us hope for success and for God's help.

Looks like they got 'C' - None of the above.

3 posted on 06/15/2006 6:48:25 AM PDT by edpc
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Documents: Al-Qaida sought SEEKS U.S.-Iran war
4 posted on 06/15/2006 6:49:40 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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Related....

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2006/06/mil-iraq-zarqawi-document.html


8 posted on 06/15/2006 7:04:38 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: NormsRevenge; Dog; Dog Gone; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Squantos; Straight Vermonter; Jim Robinson

Oh, this could get very interesting for any Al Qaeda serial killers holing up in Iran.

How many of us remember all of the trolling moles on Free Republic before and after the ground war in Iraq broke out saying we should be going after Iran instead of Iraq/Saddam.

Makes one wonder how many of those trolls were being paid by al Qaeda to divert attention from Saddam/al Qaeda to Iran.


9 posted on 06/15/2006 7:10:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; bannedfromdu; Beckwith; ...

MI followup re earlier post from ASA Vet.


11 posted on 06/15/2006 7:13:59 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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This is what strikes me: There was no way to independently confirm the authenticity of the information attributed to al-Qaida.

Did the DBM "independently confirm" the Haditha story? Did it mention that they couldn't?

As to the substance; sounds like the Greatest Army in the World, is doing a fine job. Many thanks to all who serve.

13 posted on 06/15/2006 7:16:08 AM PDT by patj
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To: All; Peach

Peach has started a campaign to discredit the leftwing lunatics who are trying to say that al Qaeda was not in Iraq before we invaded it.

This article is more proof that they are aiding serial killing al Qaeda thugs with this terrible lie.

Please go to Peach's thread and help if you can.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1649228/posts

VANITY: Defeat the leftist lies that Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq before the war
Various News and Govermental Sources ^ | June 14, 2006 | Peach


Posted on 06/14/2006 8:52:58 AM PDT by Peach


Two major issues were used by the President in the run up to war with Iraq. One was the WMD issue and the other was Iraq's support for Al Qaeda.

Since the war began in March 2003, the Democrats and media have repeatedly lied to the American public that Saddam didn't have a relationship with Al Qaeda or Osama bin Laden. They have been permitted to lie without challenge by Congressional Republicans or the President or his administration.

It is well past time that we educate Republican Congressmen and the conservative media, and try to encourage Tony Snow and Karl Rove on the importance of not letting this lie go unchallenged.

Since the 1990's, the media wrote dozens and dozens of articles about the world's alarm at the growing relationship Saddam and Iraqi military officers had with Al Qaeda and bin Laden. In the next post, I will detail some of those links.

Additionally, our very own freeper, translator and national treasure, jveritas, has translated documents which show that Saddam had direct ties to the Taliban in Afghanistan.

It is my firm belief that if more Americans knew about the relationships discussed above, support for the war and our beloved military would increase substantially. The media has gotten away with this lie for long enough.

I am looking for specific suggestions on how to get the word out to the administration with the suggestion they use this evidence of a relationship between Saddam and the jihadists more often, and how to directly write or call our Congressmen, the media, Ken Mehlman as Chair of the GOP, talk radio hosts, etc.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1649228/posts



16 posted on 06/15/2006 7:19:16 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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According to the summary, insurgents were being weakened by operations against them and by their failure to attract recruits.

I can see the NYT headline now:

AL-QAEDA FALLING SHORT OF RECRUITING GOALS

Ok, just wishful thinking.

20 posted on 06/15/2006 7:21:46 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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bttt


25 posted on 06/15/2006 7:30:58 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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"There was no way to independently confirm the authenticity of the information attributed to al-Qaida."

You'd never see this in an AP article that was negative news, or critical of Bush.


27 posted on 06/15/2006 7:33:36 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country. Zarqawi got the message.)
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bttt


28 posted on 06/15/2006 7:33:54 AM PDT by dwighteise (People have more fun than anybody!)
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So, since Iran's "president" keeps ratcheting up the rhetoric almost trying to start a war, in keeping with what is written in this document, it is safe to conclude that he has direct ties to al qaida, no?


31 posted on 06/15/2006 8:08:52 AM PDT by jw777
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Speaking of war-mongering, how is old Chas Manson holding up? Still seeing the 'unity'?


33 posted on 06/15/2006 8:17:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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Text of al-Zarqawi safe-house document

The Associated Press


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060615/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_terror_blueprint_text_1

Text of a document discovered in terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's hideout. The document was provided in English by Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie:
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The situation and conditions of the resistance in Iraq have reached a point that requires a review of the events and of the work being done inside Iraq. Such a study is needed in order to show the best means to accomplish the required goals, especially that the forces of the National Guard have succeeded in forming an enormous shield protecting the American forces and have reduced substantially the losses that were solely suffered by the American forces. This is in addition to the role, played by the Shi'a (the leadership and masses) by supporting the occupation, working to defeat the resistance and by informing on its elements.

As an overall picture, time has been an element in affecting negatively the forces of the occupying countries, due to the losses they sustain economically in human lives, which are increasing with time. However, here in Iraq, time is now beginning to be of service to the American forces and harmful to the resistance for the following reasons:

1. By allowing the American forces to form the forces of the National Guard, to reinforce them and enable them to undertake military operations against the resistance.

2. By undertaking massive arrest operations, invading regions that have an impact on the resistance, and hence causing the resistance to lose many of its elements.

3. By undertaking a media campaign against the resistance resulting in weakening its influence inside the country and presenting its work as harmful to the population rather than being beneficial to the population.

4. By tightening the resistance's financial outlets, restricting its moral options and by confiscating its ammunition and weapons.

5. By creating a big division among the ranks of the resistance and jeopardizing its attack operations, it has weakened its influence and internal support of its elements, thus resulting in a decline of the resistance's assaults.

6. By allowing an increase in the number of countries and elements supporting the occupation or at least allowing to become neutral in their stand toward us in contrast to their previous stand or refusal of the occupation.

7. By taking advantage of the resistance's mistakes and magnifying them in order to misinform.

Based on the above points, it became necessary that these matters should be treated one by one:

1. To improve the image of the resistance in society, increase the number of supporters who are refusing occupation and show the clash of interest between society and the occupation and its collaborators. To use the media for spreading an effective and creative image of the resistance.

2. To assist some of the people of the resistance to infiltrate the ranks of the National Guard in order to spy on them for the purpose of weakening the ranks of the National Guard when necessary, and to be able to use their modern weapons.

3. To reorganize for recruiting new elements for the resistance.

4. To establish centers and factories to produce and manufacture and improve on weapons and to produce new ones.

5. To unify the ranks of the resistance, to prevent controversies and prejudice and to adhere to piety and follow the leadership.

6. To create division and strife between American and other countries and among the elements disagreeing with it.

7. To avoid mistakes that will blemish the image of the resistance and show it as the enemy of the nation.

In general and despite the current bleak situation, we think that the best suggestions in order to get out of this crisis is to entangle the American forces into another war against another country or with another of our enemy force, that is to try and inflame the situation between American and Iraq or between America and the Shi'a in general.

Specifically the Sistani Shi'a, since most of the support that the Americans are getting is from the Sistani Shi'a, then, there is a possibility to instill differences between them and to weaken the support line between them; in addition to the losses we can inflict on both parties. Consequently, to embroil America in another war against another enemy is the answer that we find to be the most appropriate, and to have a war through a delegate has the following benefits:

1. To occupy the Americans by another front will allow the resistance freedom of movement and alleviate the pressure imposed on it.

2. To dissolve the cohesion between the Americans and the Shi'a will weaken and close this front.

3. To have a loss of trust between the Americans and the Shi'a will cause the Americans to lose many of their spies.

4. To involve both parties, the Americans and the Shi'a, in a war that will result in both parties being losers.

5. Thus, the Americans will be forced to ask the Sunni for help.

6. To take advantage of some of the Shia elements that will allow the resistance to move among them.

7. To weaken the media's side which is presenting a tarnished image of the resistance, mainly conveyed by the Shi'a.

8. To enlarge the geographical area of the resistance movement.

9. To provide popular support and cooperation by the people.

The resistance fighters have learned from the result and the great benefits they reaped, when a struggle ensued between the Americans and the Army of Al-Mahdi. However, we have to notice that this trouble or this delegated war that must be ignited can be accomplished through:

1. A war between the Shi'a and the Americans.

2. A war between the Shi'a and the secular population (such as Ayad 'Alawi and al-Jalabi.)

3. A war between the Shi'a and the Kurds.

4. A war between Ahmad al-Halabi and his people and Ayad 'Alawi and his people.

5. A war between the group of al-Hakim and the group of al-Sadr.

6. A war between the Shi'a of Iraq and the Sunni of the Arab countries in the gulf.

7. A war between the Americans and Iraq. We have noticed that the best of these wars to be ignited is the one between the Americans and Iran, because it will have many benefits in favor of the Sunni and the resistance, such as:

1. Freeing the Sunni people in Iraq, who are (30 percent) of the population and under the Shi'a Rule.

2. Drowning the Americans in another war that will engage many of their forces.

3. The possibility of acquiring new weapons from the Iranian side, either after the fall of Iran or during the battles.

4. To entice Iran towards helping the resistance because of its need for its help.

5. Weakening the Shi'a supply line.

The question remains, how to draw the Americans into fighting a war against Iran? It is not known whether American is serious in its animosity towards Iraq, because of the big support Iran is offering to America in its war in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Hence, it is necessary first to exaggerate the Iranian danger and to convince America and the west in general, of the real danger coming from Iran, and this would be done by the following:

1. By disseminating threatening messages against American interests and the American people and attribute them to a Shi'a Iranian side.

2. By executing operations of kidnapping hostages and implicating the Shi'a Iranian side.

3. By advertising that Iran has chemical and nuclear weapons and is threatening the west with these weapons.

4. By executing exploding operations in the west and accusing Iran by planting Iranian Shi'a fingerprints and evidence.

5. By declaring the existence of a relationship between Iran and terrorist groups (as termed by the Americans).

6. By disseminating bogus messages about confessions showing that Iran is in possession of weapons of mass destruction or that there are attempts by the Iranian intelligence to undertake terrorist operations in America and the west and against western interests.

Let us hope for success and for God's help.


34 posted on 06/15/2006 8:26:00 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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This report should be full blown front page news by the MSM (both print and TV) - Showing how al-Qeada is clearly aware they are losing (and badly) that Iraq is heading in the direction of freedom and that we (U.S.) have been tremendously effective.

No need for any of their silly armchair analysis segments. This shows the facts of what our enemies think and of how effective we have been.

36 posted on 06/15/2006 8:35:01 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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As the great Nelson Mund would say: "Ha ha!"


47 posted on 06/15/2006 9:59:08 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer: Fighting to save America from Hillary Clinton..)
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Putting on my tin foil hat for a moment, I note that the discovery and release of this document arguably furthers the Iranian interests the most, painting them as wrongly accused of all charges due to our eagerness to fall for Al Qaeda's clumsy ruse. Maybe they wrote it.

Also, when did Bill and Ted leave San Dimas to join Al Qaeda in Iraq? BOGUS reports, dudes!


54 posted on 06/15/2006 11:41:51 AM PDT by MOTR Newbie
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But we were told by people much smarter than us (Democrats)that the death of Zarqawi meant little, and that someone else will step in and nothing will change.

I hope the Republicans have saved those quotes for the upcoming election.
56 posted on 06/15/2006 11:54:40 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - A blueprint for trying to start a war between the United States and Iran was among a "huge treasure" of documents found in the hideout of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Iraqi officials said Thursday.

Oh boy you people are truly niave.............

MUCH LIKE LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD.

Listen i have a sneaking suspicion That all out war war with Iran and the United will break out and they will not need Abu al-Zarqawi's help with it...............


WHO'S AFRAID OF THE BIG INSURGENT AND IRANIAN WOLVES ?





Little Red Riding Hood
Charles Perrault


Once upon a time there lived in a certain village a little country girl, the prettiest creature who was ever seen. Her mother was excessively fond of her; and her grandmother doted on her still more. This good woman had a little red riding hood made for her. It suited the girl so extremely well that everybody called her Little Red Riding Hood.
One day her mother, having made some cakes, said to her, "Go, my dear, and see how your grandmother is doing, for I hear she has been very ill. Take her a cake, and this little pot of butter."

Little Red Riding Hood set out immediately to go to her grandmother, who lived in another village.

As she was going through the wood, she met with a wolf, who had a very great mind to eat her up, but he dared not, because of some woodcutters working nearby in the forest. He asked her where she was going. The poor child, who did not know that it was dangerous to stay and talk to a wolf, said to him, "I am going to see my grandmother and carry her a cake and a little pot of butter from my mother."

"Does she live far off?" said the wolf

"Oh I say," answered Little Red Riding Hood; "it is beyond that mill you see there, at the first house in the village."

"Well," said the wolf, "and I'll go and see her too. I'll go this way and go you that, and we shall see who will be there first."

The wolf ran as fast as he could, taking the shortest path, and the little girl took a roundabout way, entertaining herself by gathering nuts, running after butterflies, and gathering bouquets of little flowers. It was not long before the wolf arrived at the old woman's house. He knocked at the door: tap, tap.

"Who's there?"

"Your grandchild, Little Red Riding Hood," replied the wolf, counterfeiting her voice; "who has brought you a cake and a little pot of butter sent you by mother."

The good grandmother, who was in bed, because she was somewhat ill, cried out, "Pull the bobbin, and the latch will go up."

The wolf pulled the bobbin, and the door opened, and then he immediately fell upon the good woman and ate her up in a moment, for it been more than three days since he had eaten. He then shut the door and got into the grandmother's bed, expecting Little Red Riding Hood, who came some time afterwards and knocked at the door: tap, tap.

"Who's there?"

Little Red Riding Hood, hearing the big voice of the wolf, was at first afraid; but believing her grandmother had a cold and was hoarse, answered, "It is your grandchild Little Red Riding Hood, who has brought you a cake and a little pot of butter mother sends you."

The wolf cried out to her, softening his voice as much as he could, "Pull the bobbin, and the latch will go up."

Little Red Riding Hood pulled the bobbin, and the door opened.

The wolf, seeing her come in, said to her, hiding himself under the bedclothes, "Put the cake and the little pot of butter upon the stool, and come get into bed with me."

Little Red Riding Hood took off her clothes and got into bed. She was greatly amazed to see how her grandmother looked in her nightclothes, and said to her, "Grandmother, what big arms you have!"

"All the better to hug you with, my dear."

"Grandmother, what big legs you have!"

"All the better to run with, my child."

"Grandmother, what big ears you have!"

"All the better to hear with, my child."

"Grandmother, what big eyes you have!"

"All the better to see with, my child."

"Grandmother, what big teeth you have got!"

"All the better to eat you up with."

And, saying these words, this wicked wolf fell upon Little Red Riding Hood, and ate her all up.

Moral: career diplomats that are in the worthless United Nations and other weak kneeed appeasement artists like the democraps should never deal diplomatically with terrorists for if they should do so, they may well provide dinner for a wolf. I say "wolf," but there are various kinds of wolves. There are also those who are charming, quiet, polite, unassuming, complacent, and sweet, who hoodwink worthless diplomats and politicians. And unfortunately, it is these gentle wolves who are the most dangerous ones of all.



59 posted on 06/15/2006 11:58:54 AM PDT by mannie
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