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Confederate flags on space station draw ire
MSNBC ^ | 6/13/06 | James Oberg

Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.

The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.

The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.

However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.

“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."

The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”

“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederateflag; dixie; iss; losers; nasa; neoconfederate; pcpatrol; rebs; rednecksinspaaaaaace; slavestates; z
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To: Non-Sequitur
better my "word" than that of ANY of the DAMNyankee lunatics on FR.

as for you, everyone here, who has an IQ above room temperature,KNOWS what you post is EXCLUSIVELY propaganda.

free dixie,sw

621 posted on 06/19/2006 9:50:55 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback
a "confirmed kill" the only "confirmed kills" on FR is the FACT that the members of the DY coven of leftists/bigots/lunatics/REVISIONISTS & fools are just that.

take what N-S says "with a grain of salt", as EVERYTHING he posts is DAMNyankee wartime PROPAGANDA, pure & simple.

PITY that you haven't figured that out.

free dixie,sw

622 posted on 06/19/2006 9:53:35 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
what an UTTERLY FALSE & IGNORANT post. if there are any DIMocRAT trolls on this forum, it is YOU.

in point of fact, though i think you are just IGNORANT. the good news is: ignorance can be cured by education, research & an OPEN mind.

free dixie,sw

623 posted on 06/19/2006 9:55:41 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
when have you EVER posted ANYTHING that was not IGNORANTLY arrogant personal opinion, which you then tried to convince your readers was factual????

free dixie,sw

624 posted on 06/19/2006 9:56:53 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
I.better my "word" than that of ANY of the DAMNyankee lunatics on FR.

I can't speak for everyone but I sure give your "word" all the respect that it's shown it deserves.

625 posted on 06/19/2006 10:09:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie; freema
when have you EVER posted ANYTHING that was not IGNORANTLY arrogant personal opinion, which you then tried to convince your readers was factual????

I call for my first witness, Marine Wife and mother freema, to respond to your assertion that my opinions are without merit.

626 posted on 06/19/2006 12:16:55 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: Non-Sequitur
your opinion, imVho, is worth more than that of the rest of the lunatics in the coven, combined. at least you have a FUNCTIONING brain & an education.

nonetheless, your totality of contributions to these threads are spurts of PROPAGANDA. (but then none of us expects the words of the DAMNyankee Minister of Propaganda to be anything else! it is your JOB!)

free dixie,sw

627 posted on 06/19/2006 2:32:03 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
calling "your 1st witness" at your courts martial (for being a turncoat to your state/the southland & a scalawag) will have to wait till dixie has an armed force again to try you.

free dixie,sw

628 posted on 06/19/2006 2:34:19 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Admit the truth, stand, if tomorrow the south would secede from the United States again because of the democrats with the purposes of reviving slavery under the Confederate flag, you'd be the first to don butternut and grab a saber.

Any other answer out of your mouth then "yes I would and proudly" defeats all your reasons for posting here.


630 posted on 06/19/2006 2:55:30 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: stand watie
according to a recent CNN report, there are more racially/ethnically segregated schools in MA & NY alone, than in ALL the southland COMBINED.

Do you actually have a reference for that, squattie, or are you talking out of your other orifices again. Would that be this survey, or is it just something you pulled out of your trousers?

Many districts have taken advantage of the ruling to end court-ordered desegregation programs and resume sending children to schools in their neighborhoods. The study's authors contend that has contributed to increased segregation of schools, particularly in the South.

In 1988, the percentage of black students in majority-white schools in the South peaked at more than 43 percent. By 2000, that figure had fallen to 31 percent -- lower than it was in 1970, the study found.

631 posted on 06/19/2006 3:00:08 PM PDT by x
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To: Texas Mulerider
i THINK i have SEEN those 2 mules at the TX State Fair mule show in 1977. (at least that's which ones a participant in the TWTA wagon train SAID they were.)

the best LOOKING riding mule i've ever seen was on the TX Wagon Train in 1986 (i was a whip on the TWT). he was "as straight as a string" & 1/2 Arab/1/2 Catalonian!

i tried to buy that one in july of '86, but was told that "money won't buy him" (i wouldn't have sold him either, from what i saw over the 6 months!)

free dixie,sw

632 posted on 06/19/2006 3:01:12 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie; Non-Sequitur
a "confirmed kill" the only "confirmed kills" on FR is the FACT that the members of the DY coven of leftists/bigots/lunatics/REVISIONISTS & fools are just that.

take what N-S says "with a grain of salt", as EVERYTHING he posts is DAMNyankee wartime PROPAGANDA, pure & simple.

PITY that you haven't figured that out.

It is a pity you haven't figured out how to cite historical material. Let me clear this one up for you: Putting "DAMNyankee PROPAGANDA" in every post does not qualify as historical citation. You have to actually point to a historical work that supports your position. So why don't you do so?

Hey NS...you will confirm that kill for me when the time comes, won't ya? :-)

He is tramping out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored
Glory, glory hallelujah!

For Joshua Chamberlain and John M. Schofield,
Mr. Silverback

633 posted on 06/19/2006 5:50:04 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: usmcobra

You may call me anytime, though I'm sure Stand Watie will not consider my testimony valid.


634 posted on 06/19/2006 5:57:37 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: x; stand watie
SW, I second x's question. Cite a source please.

Not that finding out that liberals like segregation in 2006 would prove anything about the righteousness of the Northern cause in 1861...I just want to see if you're actually capable of citing a source.

635 posted on 06/19/2006 6:03:24 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Not that finding out that liberals like segregation in 2006 would prove anything about the righteousness of the Northern cause in 1861...

Since you're responding to a post in which the subject is race, you should be reminded that in 1861 the "righteous" Northern cause consisted strictly of preventing secession. At least that's what Mr. Lincoln said, and who's to argue with him?

636 posted on 06/19/2006 7:03:06 PM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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To: Texas Mulerider

Can you quote Lincoln on that?

Or do I have to buy one of those books stand watie reads?


637 posted on 06/19/2006 7:39:24 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: usmcobra

Are you trying to kill me? I was rolling on the floor when I saw the title of thread and your name on the ping. After having just read these few posts, I'm having severe abdominal pains. I just want to know if someone loaded squattie on the rocket.


638 posted on 06/19/2006 8:02:28 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

You need to giggle, that's why I invited you here.


639 posted on 06/19/2006 8:17:15 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: usmcobra
Or do I have to buy one of those books stand watie reads?

I'm surprised you'd need a book for it, since it's in the first few paragraphs of Mr. Lincoln's first inaugural address. But save your money. I'll quote it for you:

"Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that--

I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:

Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes."

That sound morally righteous to you?

640 posted on 06/19/2006 8:18:12 PM PDT by Texas Mulerider
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