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Baptists to weigh public-school exit plan
AP ^ | June 14, 2006 | TIM WHITMIRE

Posted on 06/14/2006 10:16:04 AM PDT by TheDon

Leaders of the Southern Baptist Convention refused Wednesday to support a resolution urging the denomination to form a strategy for removing children from public schools in favor of home schooling or education at private schools.

The "exit strategy" proposal, offered by Roger Moran of Troy, Mo., and Texas author Bruce Shortt, came as many Southern Baptists are concerned about how classrooms are handling subjects such as homosexuality and "intelligent design."

But the SBC's resolutions committee instead called on members to "engage the culture of our public school systems" by exerting "godly influence," declining to put the proposal from Moran and Shortt before delegates to the SBC's annual meeting.

The committee instead forwarded a more moderate resolution titled "On Engaging the Direction of the Public School System," which was to be debated Wednesday evening at the final session of the denomination's annual meeting.

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Separation of school and state bump!
1 posted on 06/14/2006 10:16:06 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon

Sounds like common sense reigned there at the SBC Convention.


2 posted on 06/14/2006 10:32:45 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: agrace; bboop; cgk; Conservativehomeschoolmama; cyborg; cyclotic; dawn53; Diva Betsy Ross; ...
HOMESCHOOL PING!
3 posted on 06/14/2006 10:35:09 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: MineralMan

Actually, they voted to keep their children in the gov't schools.


4 posted on 06/14/2006 10:40:01 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: TheDon

"Actually, they voted to keep their children in the gov't schools."

Yes. That's what I meant. They used some common sense. If you have children in those schools, you're more likely to pay attention to what is happening in them.

Public schools are not going away. The key is to change them, if they're deficient. If the American people are truly angry at what is going on in the schools, they have the power to change them.


5 posted on 06/14/2006 10:42:39 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: TheDon

Okay, let me get this straight.

You can't, as an adult, have a glass of wine, but you can send your kids to be schooled by tne NEA and be influenced by the "worldly" philosophy they push.

Hmmmm.


6 posted on 06/14/2006 10:43:42 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: TheDon

It appears that the resolution has failed...this time.
But the resolution was based upon impeccably done research in this book (also available on Amazon):


"The Harsh Truth about Public Schools" ---a reading must!

http://www.exodusmandate.org/art_the-harsh-truth-about-public-schools.htm


7 posted on 06/14/2006 10:46:55 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: MineralMan

It occasionally does ;)

Unfortunately, parents are finding themselves increasingly frustrated with the lack of power they have in these so-called "public" schools. They are searching for some way of regaining that power, but with little success...

The real issue regarding public schools is the fact that they are no longer truly "public" schools. All policy is separate from the public, and the public truly has little or no influence regarding hiring, policy or curriculum. When I first started teaching, a community quite literally had their own school - and they determined how they wished their schools to teach. By the time I left the public school system, ten years later, communities had virtually no input into such matters.

Even teachers such as myself had NO control over what curriculums would be taught. I had always written my own curriculums in the beginning to meet my students' needs; but by the end, I was not only being discouraged from crafting my own curriculum, I was not even allowed to choose one. The school chose all things...

Once, communities hired teachers and the teachers taught the children. Now, people who don't even have children, people who don't even like children are controlling our schools. NGOs, population control activists and social constructivists now control most "public" schools. Science and mathematics have given way to "global warming" and "fuzzy math"; social studies, literature and the arts have become little more than propaganda in many schools. The few truly public schools left are increasingly being pressured through litigation and intimidation to give up all power to those who know nothing about their children.

My daughter graduated from a great public school in 2003 - but during her senior year the powers that be decided the school no longer met their political needs. Despite protests from the parents, the fabulous faculty was dismantled from the inside out, then the next year the school torn down to make way for a more "fair" and "modern" school. (And that school may never be built, since the land upon which it sits is now prime real estate.)

I still teach; I started my own public school, designed to meet my student's - my 7 yr old son's - needs. It's called "Our Homeschool". Science and math, here we come! And I thank God I live in a state where I still have access to good "public" schools, even if the only student I serve it my own child...


8 posted on 06/14/2006 10:55:43 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: MineralMan

Actually, not everyone is angry about it. Many people are quite happy about the values that are taught in gov't schools. For those who are not, they must move on to other options. Throwing our children into the cesspool of gov't schools is a crime against our children.


9 posted on 06/14/2006 11:00:35 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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They will be wise to get out while the getting is good.
10 posted on 06/14/2006 11:04:29 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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You disciple your children first, then send them out.

Sending them to today's public school is like Lot going to Sodom to bring "Godly Influence" to the that city.

See how the Lord Jesus Christ discipled twelve grown men for three years, sending them out just once for a short period of time to minister in the cities of Israel then had them return for more discipleship.

Invest the time and resources in your children by training them walk with Christ and live His commandments on a day by day basis. Send them out as maturing young people for short times be a "Godly Infuence" on the world, bring them back, evaluate the mission, continue their training. Prepare them for their life purpose repeat this over and over until they are ready and then send them out.
11 posted on 06/14/2006 11:06:10 AM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: MineralMan
Sounds like common sense reigned there at the SBC Convention.

Naw, just looks like some of you allies seem to have infiltrated the SBC

12 posted on 06/14/2006 11:09:10 AM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine)
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To: dandelion
Beggars can't be choosers.

He who pays the piper -- calls the tune.

If I sit down at Caesar's table, I have forfeited the right to complain about the menu. What he feeds me, I must swallow.

We do not pay for public schools. Caesar does -- using money extracted from us by force and intimidation. When the gun intervenes between funding source and destination, loyalty is severed. "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." We the people don't pay for public schools, and don't control public schools -- therefore, it makes better sense to train our children through environments we pay for, and control.

Unfortunately, a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise. Hence, the general acceptance of public schools. We are paid off with our fellow citizens' money to ensure our compliance and silence.

13 posted on 06/14/2006 11:12:47 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Rodm

You have no idea what you are talking about.


14 posted on 06/14/2006 11:17:30 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: dawn53
What a perversion of our Lord's words about what truly defiles a man -- not the stuff going into the mouth, but the stuff coming out. SO the convention has consented to the defiling of the hearts and minds of member children -- but exulted a gnostic contempt for an element of the created order. There's going to be he!! to pay as the chickens come home to roost over this majoring in minors, sacrificing minors (children) while attempting to treat adults like children.
15 posted on 06/14/2006 11:18:49 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: MineralMan

The government schools are hopelessly broken. Why would I want my kids exposed to type of nonsense the government schools throw at them? Why should I condemn my children to a poor education and even poorer social situation so that I can change the schools?

My wife and I have recently decided to home school.


16 posted on 06/14/2006 11:20:33 AM PDT by J4Justice
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To: dandelion

Nice post...........


17 posted on 06/14/2006 11:21:55 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The pen is mightier than the................pigs.)
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To: TheDon
Common sense should inform these people that you do not engage the culture in these important areas by using impressionable minor children. Engage adult to adult, but protect the kids. They need to first be equipped to engage the culture.

We are losing and they are winning largely because we have unwise, weak leaders. Show me where adults are winning through engagement and then maybe I'll consider a plan for the kids to do the same. We're just lazy, busy entertaining ourselves to death while the gosple gets watered down and we reflect the world far more than the Lord Jesus. We are at this point because of our own failures.

18 posted on 06/14/2006 11:22:13 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: MineralMan
Yes. That's what I meant. They used some common sense.

ROFLOL!!!

19 posted on 06/14/2006 11:24:32 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The pen is mightier than the................pigs.)
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To: TomSmedley

My point exactly!!! Sending children to be a "godly influence" into the cesspools that are the public schools.


20 posted on 06/14/2006 11:26:13 AM PDT by dawn53
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