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NY Sun ^ | 6/13/06 | RAYMOND KELLY

Posted on 06/13/2006 6:01:56 PM PDT by dervish

Appearing Monday before the New York City Council's hearing on the Department of Homeland Security's 40% reduction in counterterrorism aid to New York City (other cities experienced increases), Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly identified "17 chapters in New York City's recent history that the Department of Homeland Security may want to commit to memory" as follows:

November 5, 1990: El Sayyid Nosair shot Jewish Defense League leader Meir Kahane...

February 26, 1993: New York City sustained the first terrorist attack on the World Trade Center...

1993: Al Qaeda plot to destroy the Holland and Lincoln tunnels...

March 1, 1994: Rashid Baz, a Palestinian...

February 23, 1997: Abu Kamel, a Palestinian residing in Florida, selected the Empire State Building...

July 31, 1997: the New York City Police Department stopped a plot at the last minute to bomb the subway...

September 11, 2001: The World Trade Center was destroyed by Al Qaeda with the loss of 2,700 lives.

October 2001: New York Post, NBC, CBS, and ABC News in New York City fall victim to anthrax attacks...

June 2002: Security personnel from Iran's Mission to the United Nations were observed by NYPD videotaping landmarks and infrastructure...

Late 2002 and Early 2003: Al Qaeda operative Iyman Faris...

November 2003: security personnel assigned to Iran's Mission to the United Nations...

April 10, 2004: Al Qaeda operative Mohammad Babar was arrested by NYPD...

June 2004: two more security personnel from Iran's Mission to the United Nations were caught...

July 2004: laptop computer of an Al Qaeda operative overseas is recovered. On it are detailed reconnaissance plans that show Al Qaeda operatives had been in New York City to plan an attack on the New York Stock Exchange...

August 2004: A week before the convening of the Republican National Convention two Islamic radicals from Brooklyn were arrested...

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; alqaeda; homelandsecurity; ny; raymondkelly; terror; wtc
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November 2005: Uzair Paracha, a Pakistani-born resident of New York City, was convicted of providing material support to Al Qaeda...

Just last week, on June 6: Syed Hashmi, a Queens resident...

1 posted on 06/13/2006 6:01:58 PM PDT by dervish
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To: dervish

And yet NY lets the arch terrorist Thaci get arms from the UCK Muslim Albanian thug Krasniqi in Brooklyn ...Makes one wonder...

http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/kerry101804.htm


2 posted on 06/13/2006 6:13:56 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: dervish
No mention of the $600 million they completely wasted, and $345 million they can't account for though...

Th only, and I mean only word these people know is "more"

3 posted on 06/13/2006 6:15:57 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: xcamel
No mention of the $600 million they completely wasted, and $345 million they can't account for though...

Those are remarkable numbers. Almost Louisiana-esque.

4 posted on 06/13/2006 6:21:03 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: xcamel

And the biggest loudmouth complainers are those 2 do-nothing senators who voted down the funding!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/6/101105.shtml?s=ic


5 posted on 06/13/2006 6:26:05 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: TontoKowalski

the remarkable number is "twenty billion dollars"
And you thought $300 toilet seats and $180 hammers were myths of government....


6 posted on 06/13/2006 6:27:15 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: xcamel

"No mention of the $600 million they completely wasted, and $345 million they can't account for though..."

More information please.

Personally I am more concerned with the 'Pork' aspect of Homeland Security spending.

"This is a boon not just to North Pole, but to places like Wyoming. According to Veronique de Rugy of the American Enterprise Institute, the Equality State has only .17 percent of the nation's population, but gets .85 percent of federal homeland-security grants. That works out to $37.74 per capita for Wyoming, while New York state gets $5.41 per capita. De Rugy reports that Washington, D.C., is the only location that is both among the top 10 grant recipients and on a list of the 10 most at-risk localities."

http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200507190735.asp

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=pork+homeland+security


Anyone who doesn't realize that NY is target # 1 hasn't been paying attention.

Aside from the human tragedy, remember this:

NEW YORK - The nation's stock markets will resume trading Monday, ending a four-day shutdown that followed the destruction of the World Trade Center, officials said today.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/special/terror/front/1046501.html


7 posted on 06/13/2006 6:27:29 PM PDT by dervish
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To: eleni121

They are a disgrace.


8 posted on 06/13/2006 6:31:26 PM PDT by dervish
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To: dervish
Oh, Sorry.

Those numbers are just what was wasted/lost on NYC

source:GAO: DHS budget

and "NEW YORK - The nation's stock markets will resume trading Monday, ending a four-day shutdown that followed the destruction of the World Trade Center, officials said today."

.... ending the klintoon recession (tech bubble) and starting a 4 year run unrivaled in stock market history.

9 posted on 06/13/2006 6:33:41 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: dervish
Tell me again Police Commissioner Kelly, why you feel it is a priority to drive a van up and down the highway between Pennsylvania and New York warning people not to buy fireworks for the Fourth of July.

How much money wasted, how much time wasted, what a waste of fuel.

Please stop whining about taxpayer dollars flowing to NYC. It's been millions upon millions and yet a fire in the NY subway last year proved the transit workers incapable of helping the passengers.

10 posted on 06/13/2006 6:35:27 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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"Those numbers are just what was wasted/lost on NYC

source:GAO: DHS budget"

Still not getting you. Are you saying that amount was given to NY or that NY lost that money and can not account for it?

Are you suggesting that the closing of the markets was a boon to the country? I was appalled that there was not a better back up plan for the markets' off site operation.

I wonder if one exists today.


11 posted on 06/13/2006 6:38:18 PM PDT by dervish
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Yes, that was the amount that NYC lost/wasted since 2002 on HS, and of the funds that were given to NYC for reconstruction.

and market recovery plans - you bet there are...


12 posted on 06/13/2006 6:56:15 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: dervish

Kelly has made the point a few tims that the risk to the Financial District is so great the requires that 40% (which actually mostly goes to pay overtime for cops and firemen).

Well, how about the Citibank's, Merril-Lynch's and Goldman Sach's start kicking in some bucks to make up the shortfall? Heck, when I was at Citi, I only watched them sink a $6 million, 15', steel umbrella in the ground in front of 388 Greenwich Street at a time when they were telling employees that "business was bad".

(P.S. They subsequently had to tell employees NOT to to walk under the thing in winter because of the danger of falling snow. Not to mention the 30' high, red neon-light umbrella on the side of the building at 390 Greenwich, which basically tells every potential hijacker "Empire State Building - Turn Left").

If Wall Street CEO's can spend money on absurdities like this, then they can help the city pay the tab for their protection if they care about staying in New York that much.


13 posted on 06/13/2006 7:13:46 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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"if they care about staying in New York that much."

You've got to be kidding. As it is NY taxes are so high they might jump ship just for that reason.

And now in addition you expect a private company to pay for Homeland Security?

But the Exchanges are still in NYC.


14 posted on 06/13/2006 8:48:16 PM PDT by dervish
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To: dervish

Yawn...


15 posted on 06/13/2006 8:49:34 PM PDT by Clemenza (The CFR ate my bilderburgers! Time to call for a trilateral commission to investigate!)
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To: OldFriend

As I recall this is not long after NY basically proved itself, again, a bottomless pit for funds allocated after 9/11, with even the Mafia angling in on the trough.

F that. Protect the country. NY is just one part of it. Making Wyoming out to be the bad guy statistically isn't necessarily accurate. I'm agin' pork, but I'm also against NYC being considered by default the most important city in the country.

After all, that's the one I'm in. 8^)


16 posted on 06/13/2006 11:55:02 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Bill, McQueeg and the President related?)
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To: LibertarianInExile
The mafia moved in within moments of the plan for the cleanup of the collapsed buildings.

They were the haulers of the debris. They were stealing scrap metal.

NYC is a cesspit of corruption. It's impossible to figure out where the theives will surface next.

I remember Fire Commissioner Scapetta remarking that he'd be creating new diversity programs with the homeland security money.

17 posted on 06/14/2006 3:49:06 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: dervish

The City gives each and every one of those firms enormous tax BREAKS, just to stay.

And with modern communications, you don't need to be right next door to the exchange to do business (I know, I'm a fomer systems programmer who built automated trading systems for 20 years).

So, if the sky high tax rates were an issue, there wouldn't even be a Wall Street, at least not in Manhattan. They stay in New York for reasons that go beyond taxes.


18 posted on 06/14/2006 9:21:38 AM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: dervish

On the other hand, if it is to happen, let it be NY and SF, instead of real America.


19 posted on 06/14/2006 9:36:46 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: fish hawk

Yes, I believe your embittered sentiment is the real one on this thread.


20 posted on 06/14/2006 10:06:08 AM PDT by dervish
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