Ann Coulter Was Wrong

Accuracy In Media ^ | 6/13/2006 | Cliff Kincaid

[Mike Bates]

In the controversy over Ann Coulter's comments about the group of 9/11 widows, there is one critical question, from the point of view of ensuring standards of accuracy in the media. How does Coulter know it to be true that, "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." There is no evidence whatsoever that those women enjoyed their husbands' deaths, and Coulter offers none. The only "evidence" for this preposterous and hurtful claim is that the women became activists and sought the media spotlight and took a political position at odds with that of Coulter. But what does that prove?

I think Coulter probably would have been correct to say that the women appeared to enjoy the media attention. You don't go on these shows unless you enjoy them to some degree. But enjoying a death? And the death of a loved one when fatherless children were left behind? Coulter's comments are not only false but cruel. She has also made other disparaging personal comments about the women.

In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter. Opinions are allowed, and Coulter, a columnist for Human Events and many other newspapers, is entitled to her own opinions.

SNIP

If the matter only involved personal opinions about people or things, Coulter's comments wouldn't really be newsworthy or significant. But she is claiming to have inside knowledge of the personal psychology of this group of women who lost their husbands on 9/11. That is why the comments have generated so much outrage—except from a few conservatives unwilling to criticize her.

[Steve_Seattle]

Molly Ivins is a liberal syndicated columnist from Texas, who specializes in Bush-bashing. She's also written a couple of anti-Bush books, including one with the derogatory title, "Shrub." Her column is frequently nasty, deliberately misleading, and riddled with falsehoods and non-sequitors. But, as I said, she can be reasonably charming on TV.

[Publius6961]

The only "evidence" for this preposterous and hurtful claim is that the women became activists and sought the media spotlight and took a political position at odds with that of Coulter. But what does that prove?

It proved the statement to be true. There seems to be a part of human nature that revels is victimhood. To the extent that this is true, then, yes, they are enjoying their special "celbrety status, as supposed to, say, the hundreds (thousands?) of other widows who went on with their lives without using their victimhood as entry into the political arena.

I assume that Kinkaid is aware of the multiple meanings for the word "enjoy"? Feigning ignorance at this point would not be very useful...

[Steve_Seattle]

"The thing that bothers me about these daily Ann-Bashing Fests is that those who excoriate her for her comments in this book never raise the point that the basic premise of her book is sound. Where is the person who says, "Her comments about the Jersey Girls were unfortunate, to be sure, but the rest of her book is right on target"?"

Well, I for one have commented on this and other threads that Coulter generally writes good books with good arguments that she spoils with gratuitous zingers that deflect attention form her valid points.

[Hildy]

Because then she wouldn't have gotten all the publicity that sells her books. It's pretty simple, really.

[sinkspur]

He convicted the Marines faster than John Murtha.

That's a lie.

[SE Mom]

I do- I think it went over the top. I believe the points she wanted to make could have been made in a way less inflamatory way.

I don't like this crap when Michael Moore does it- and I don't like it when Ann Coulter does it either.

[MikeA]

Bring your worst...I'm use to it on here.

Let me say though that I don't agree with everything he does like the immigration bill (though I agree we need a guest worker plan just one with more enforcement to it that his envisions) or ANWR, but I just see him as one of the few GOP candidates who can beat Hillary, so I'm on board until someone can show me otherwise.

I see the 08 election as going to be more a blocking maneuver than about advancing the conservative cause significantly. But at least he will be strong in the WOT and on cutting spending, esp. pork spending. Hopefully he'll defend tax cuts too and keep them in place.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Saw a sign in a mens restroom one time which read shake it more than 3 times and you are playing with it."

I saw a sign in a mens' room once that said, "No matter how many times you shake it, the last drop ends up in your pants."

[Publius6961]

Coulter is projecting: she's been dumped so many times for being bitchy, she presumes that's the way every woman is treated.

Let's see if I have this right. You have no idea why Anne may or may not have been dumped many times, yet you feel it perfoectly normal to make that claim; on the other hand, you are chasing the wrong definition of the word "enjoy", then criticizing Anne for "using" it?

Doesn't compute.
Enjoy can simply mean "deriving benefit from", not the ha-ha variety...

[Echo Talon]

Ok thanks for replying, I no idea who she was. :)

[Sam Hill]

How many examples do you want?

Marine at Haditha: 'I Can Still Smell the Blood' ^

Posted by sinkspur to Suzy Quzy On News/Activism ^ 05/29/2006 11:26:44 PM EDT · 226 of 439 ^ I do NOT believe that MARINES would kill 24 innocent people....why are you? Why were three Marine commanders relieved of duty in conncetion with this incident? And why have several Marine higher-ups commented that there will "likely" be charges brought? It's hard to believe that Marines would do this, but apparently there is evidence that they did.

[sinkspur]

You have no idea why Anne may or may not have been dumped many times, yet you feel it perfoectly normal to make that claim;

It's Coulterism. She knows nothing about the state of the marriages of four 9/11 widows, yet she freely speculates about them in a book.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Where is the person who says, "Her comments about the Jersey Girls were unfortunate, to be sure, but the rest of her book is right on target"?

Well, the problem is that the rest of the book is not "right on target." The chapters on evolution are just plain wrong, and they are embarrassingly so.

[april15Bendovr]

The fact the leftist movement is using these women to advance an agenda while the Jersey Girls and Cindy Sheehan willingly oblige knowing it isn't politically correct to respond is over the top.

[Sam Hill]

Marine recalls day his buddy and Iraqi civilians met death ^

	Posted by sinkspur to Wild Irish Rogue On News/Activism ^ 05/29/2006 10:09:47 PM EDT · 13 of 49 ^ They have arrived at conclusions while investigations are still being conducted. That's common, especially in criminal investigations when the evidence is overwhelming. Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies
Marine at Haditha: 'I Can Still Smell the Blood' ^
	Posted by sinkspur to Coop On News/Activism ^ 05/29/2006 10:02:13 PM EDT · 93 of 439 ^ So then why the photos from the second unit, Sink? Either Pace is lying, or somebody in Iraq is lying. Briones said he turned his camera over to his commanders, and that's the last ever saw of it. You, too, cannot comprehend that something this terrible could happen. There's simply too many hints by those who do know to the contrary. Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies

[sinkspur]

Why would there be an investigation into Haditha if there was no evidence that Marines may have done something wrong?

[combat_boots]

Annie's over the target. She's taking all manner of flak.

[Logical me]

So I prefer sometimes a strong offense to hit back with rather than just playing nice and constantly getting trashed by these people without throwing a few punches back at them. Just my opinion with all due respect to yours.

Your thread is right on. Could not have been better said. Most of us were getting tired of being attacked with the most vile garbage. The far left are indeed insane. Ann just gave them a slice of their own medicine and, lo and behold, they can't take it. The only thing is the truth hurts and the method of delivery really got their goat. Go Ann. Thanks MikeA

[sinkspur]

You are now spamming the thread with stuff that has nothing to do with Coulter.

But, that was always the Mojo style.

[Paradox]

Like I said before, Ann is right about the whole grief thing, but the exact words she used were wrong. Its a shame, because those vicious words will overshadow what otherwise is 100% correct.