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Keeping Taxpayers in the Dark (Ithaca Solar Panels lose $1 million)
Federal Review ^ | Tuesday, June 13, 2006

Posted on 06/13/2006 8:36:48 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

ITHACA NY--Once again proving that social engineering and taxpayer money shouldn't mix comes this news from Ithaca, New York:

In 1999, the Tompkins County Board of Representatives voted to install solar power on the roof of the country library. (In cold, dark upstate NY.)

It will be paid for with $551,025 of County funds -- an addition to the library capital project -- and $455,514 in grants from the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority (NYSERDA) and the U.S. Department of Energy.

So, how much power has their system generated since $1,006,539 was spent to install it?

460,124 kilowatt hours (kWh) since it was installed, in July of 2001.

On the open market 460,124 kWh would cost a commercial user (assuming an astronomically high average price of $0.10 per kWh) about $46,000.

Only in The City of Evil could spending over a million dollars to generate at most $9,358 worth of electricity per year make sense.

Source for generation info
http://www.powerlight.com/mypowerlight/
User Name: library
Password: solarpower

(hat tip: the Comedian, who told me to go ahead ahead and "steal" his work)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: cityofevil; energy; ithaca; mdm
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Ithaca is the City of Evil.


1 posted on 06/13/2006 8:36:54 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; John Valentine; TLBSHOW; ...
City of Evil bump:


2 posted on 06/13/2006 8:37:42 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

How many days of sun can there be in Ithaca?


3 posted on 06/13/2006 8:38:01 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: Mikey_1962

Plenty of light as long as the Eye of Sauron remains.


4 posted on 06/13/2006 8:40:13 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Mikey_1962

There is no such thing as sun in the City of Evil. :)


5 posted on 06/13/2006 8:40:23 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
And that doesn't even include cleaning and repair costs for the panels.
6 posted on 06/13/2006 8:44:08 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
So it'll pay for itself in 100 years, assuming no degradation or failures in the solar cells. Now if they had invested that million...
7 posted on 06/13/2006 8:45:16 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Using my brief calculations, $46000 in 5 years = $9200/Year.
At a cost of $1,006,539 / $9200 annually = 109.4 years. (Not including maintenance sosts, devaluation of the equipment, and fluctuating Kw energy calculations).

So, the sucke- people of Ithaca (City of Evil) will begin to see a profit in January, 2116.

8 posted on 06/13/2006 8:49:31 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Yes, but te NYSERDA money was FREE! They got back about 9% of the cost so far if you don't include the money taken at gunpooint from you and me.


9 posted on 06/13/2006 8:52:18 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Mikey_1962

"How many days of sun can there be in Ithaca?"

Both


10 posted on 06/13/2006 8:53:11 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: ikka

Like the greenies say, every little bit helps. What it helps with isn't exactly clear.


11 posted on 06/13/2006 8:55:40 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: theDentist

With cost of capital more than 1% ($10k per million) it will never pay back.


12 posted on 06/13/2006 8:57:01 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave
You have to remember, we are dealing with Liberals. Money is not important. It's how good we all feel about the project.
13 posted on 06/13/2006 9:08:07 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I'm a big fan of alternative energy, but it still has to be worthwhile economically. A million bucks at 5% interest is $50K a year for electricity forever. If it is indeed 10c a kWh in Ithaca, that's 500,000 kWh per year. I yield the floor to anybody from that area or anybody in the library biz to say if that's more than that library needs or not.


14 posted on 06/13/2006 9:16:29 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: 50sDad

And since it's not their INDIVIDUAL money, they feel REALLY good.


15 posted on 06/13/2006 9:16:59 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe they installed these knowing that a future building would be constructed adjacent to the libray that would block sunlight from the panels.


16 posted on 06/13/2006 9:35:42 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A whooping 0.93% ROI. Who says the government doesn't know how to spend our money more wisely than us. Of course that assumes an infinite lifetime and no maintenance costs.


17 posted on 06/13/2006 9:56:20 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: 50sDad
[W]e are dealing with Liberals. [Other people's m]oney is not important
18 posted on 06/13/2006 9:58:03 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: RightWhale
Like the greenies say, every little bit helps. What it helps with isn't exactly clear.

It helps the "greenie" who owned the company that installed the solar panels.

19 posted on 06/13/2006 9:58:32 AM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Let me guess. To make it aesthetically pleasing to behold, they installed the panels on the North side as well as the South side, (if there is a South side).

Now if I had a few tens of thousands to invest without concern, I could get a twenty year return on the investment. But I would put them on the South side of my house.


20 posted on 06/13/2006 10:07:47 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (Hummingbirds would be even more popular if they could remember the words to the songs.)
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