Chertoff Outlines Detectors of Illegals(Employers who may have hired illegals have no more excuses!)

The Washington Times ^ | June 10, 2006 | Stephen Dinan and Jerry Seper

[kellynla]

The Department of Homeland Security yesterday announced new steps to make it easier for businesses to verify whether workers are in the country legally, and called for Congress to give the department authority to track mismatched Social Security numbers submitted by businesses.
"Most businesses want to do the right thing when it comes to employing legal workers," Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said. "These new regulations will give U.S. businesses the necessary tools to increase the likelihood that they are employing workers consistent with our laws. They also help us to identify and prosecute employers who are blatantly abusing our immigration system."
The move comes as the administration is trying to convince members of Congress it is serious about enforcing immigration laws. It hopes this will sway lawmakers to support President Bush's call for a broad immigration bill that both creates a temporary worker program for future foreign workers and a path to citizenship for most current illegal aliens.
Many Republicans in Congress argue that the key to controlling illegal immigration lies not at the border but in ending the magnet of jobs for illegal aliens.
Employers are required to review documents and certify that new hires are legal workers on a form known as the I-9. But 29 different documents are considered acceptable proof, and a giant fraud industry has cropped up to provide illegal aliens with fake documents that are good enough to fool employers.
Also, while a Social Security card is one of the most common documents for proving eligibility, every year businesses submit invalid Social Security numbers for millions of employees.
The Social Security Administration mails out "no-match" letters notifying a company that the numbers are invalid, but many companies ignore the letters and are rarely penalized.

[kellynla]

Most businesses want to do the right thing when it comes to employing legal workers," Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said.

What Chertoff and the rest of the Bush administration has failed to understand is that employers who hire illegals ARE NOT INTERESTED IN EMPLOYING LEGALS! gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

"Work-site enforcement has fallen under Mr. Bush. In fiscal 1999 the Clinton administration issued 443 notices of intent to fine businesses for violating immigration hiring laws. By fiscal 2003 that had dropped to 16. The amount of fines also dropped from $2.7 million to $212,322 during the same period."

[kellynla]

ping

[DTogo]

Imagine the penalties on an American for using a fake/stolen SSN, for any reason...

[mtbopfuyn]

Most businesses want to do the right thing when it comes to employing legal workers

(cough, cough, cough)

[Bigg Red]

mark

[kellynla]

ping

[inkling]

If the IRS didn't allow tax-deductions on illegal workers, no business would hire these people. The problem would solve itself within a year, fence or no fence.

[namvet66]

"Work-site enforcement has fallen under Mr. Bush. In fiscal 1999 the Clinton administration issued 443 notices of intent to fine businesses for violating immigration hiring laws. By fiscal 2003 that had dropped to 16.

The amount of fines also dropped from $2.7 million to $212,322 during the same period."

THIS SAYS IT ALL

President Bush talks the talk, but unfortunately does NOT "Walk the Walk!"

It saddens me (and many others) to have to even suggest, that we no longer trust our President and Commander-in-Chief.

PLEASE MR. PRESIDENT, DO SOMETHING (SHOW US) THAT YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT SECURING OUR BORDERS

[griswold3]

Our company is listed on the FMCSA as compliant with regulations. You can check it out online.
Why can't immigrants be required to be registered with the Federal Government as well? Required them to present a certificate of employment the employer can verify on line with an agency? Sort of an extension the "Ellis Island Project" Mike Pence proposed.

[Wuli]

No laws or 'reforms' are needed. The Executive branch has all the authority it needs, now.

The IRS is not required by law to accept money paid to it on fraudulent social security numbers.

In fact the IRS knows each and every time it gets money, from employers quarterly tax payments that includes payments on fraudulent social security numbers; because in order to apply the money correctly it has to check the social security numbers against the official social security administrations database of legitimate numbers.

The IRS knows each and every occurance of this fraud so well that it even knows, today, how much FICA it has collected on the fraudulent social security numbers.

In as much as the IRS is not required by law to accept payments based on fraudulent social security numbers it can now reject the entire quarterly tax payment of an employer, when that tax payment includes the expectation of paying income tax and FICA withholding on fraudulent social securtity numbers.

After an employer has their tax payments in arrears for a few quarters, they will fire their illegals before the IRS starts sending them suggestions of possible court actions -

UNDER CURRENT LAWS.

What the people, the globalists, working behind the scenes and behind Bush are pushing for are various versions of "secure" national ID systems, like Bloomberg wants, with biometrics - your fingerprints and DNA - encoded into the cards. Bush keeps touting these type of changes as "the only way" to identify "illegal" workers.

When in fact, the IRS identifies them every day. The Executive Branch just doesn't do anything about it.

[inkling]

That's what I'm talking about! If I underpay the IRS a buck, they'll be on my case for the next year. How on earth couldn't they know when illegal workers are paying hundreds or thousands into the federal coffers?

By tightening the screws little-by-little, illegals would be unemployable. They would have to go back home and tell all their friends that the gravy train is off the rails. Then, the best of them could get in line at their nearest embassy and try to get here legally.

[TomGuy]

The move comes as the administration is trying to convince members of Congress it is serious about enforcing immigration laws.

Until allot more evidence accumulates that the admin is serious about enforcing immigration laws, I remain skeptical.

When 20,000+ NG with enforcement orders (not paperwork and menial work) are stationed there, I'll begin to lessen my skepticism.

When GW quits pushing for the amnesty (under whatever name) and shows actions of real enforcement, I'll start to believe.

Until then, this is just more shellgame rhetoric.

[TomGuy]

Updated version:

[Old Student]

"(cough, cough, cough)"

That most businesses want to follow the law doesn't mean they all want to, just that most of them do. According to a "free sample report" available on bizminer.com, in July 2005, there were 1,674,054 businesses, divided among firms, establishments, and small business. If only 1 percent don't, there are 16,740+ businesses that don't care. All this assumes, of course, that the numbers I got for businesses in this country are correct, even, which may not be a good bet, either.

[tertiary01]

Here's an item of interest.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/06/dhs_officials_i.html

[DumpsterDiver]

Until allot more evidence accumulates that the admin is serious about enforcing immigration laws, I remain skeptical.

Until then, this is just more shellgame rhetoric.

I agree. Chertff starts by claiming that the "Department of Homeland Security yesterday announced new steps to make it easier for businesses to verify whether workers are in the country legally, and then he says that he's "called for Congress to give the department authority to track mismatched Social Security numbers submitted by businesses."

Chertoff can get back to me after he gets that authority fromm Congress and after his plan has been funded and implemented.

[Paul Ross]

W: "That ain't gonna happen!"

[namvet66]

El Buck Par Aqui.

Got to luv it. Soooooooo PC. LOL

[Uri’el-2012]

Did Chertff just get the memo from Jorge Arbusto ?

[WOSG]

"These new regulations will give U.S. businesses the necessary tools to increase the likelihood that they are employing workers consistent with our laws. They also help us to identify and prosecute employers who are blatantly abusing our immigration system."

This is a good start. Do this for another 2 years, and then see where we are at.