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Paleo-Conservatives Departing The Grand Old Party
Renew America ^ | 6/4/2006 | Bonnie Alba

Posted on 06/10/2006 6:20:18 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

Conservative Republicans held such hopes when Pres. Bush was heralded into office and the Republicans gained control of the Congress. That was then, this is now.

According to recent polls, conservative republicans are perplexed by the non-conservative actions of this president and the Republican-controlled Congress.

As I probed this latest confusion I found that I, and millions of other citizens, are f-o-s-s-i-l-s. According to Wikipedia Encyclopedia online, we are "Paleo" or "Old" conservatives. We are living fossils, 'about-to-become-extinct' hangers-on of the Grand Old Party which no longer appears to represent traditional conservatism.

The Republican Party in its essentials has been taken over by a mutation. Wikipedia describes this line of thought as "Neo" or "New Wave" conservatism. It's tenets are not really new, just enjoined by present-day politicians and citizens as the direction our nation should pursue. But it is contrary to many basic "Paleocon" principles.

"Paleocons" believe in the principles of limited government, limited spending and borrowing, limited intervention into citizens' lives, and states' rights. They also believe in restraint of foreign entanglement, a strong national defense and traditional family values

"Neocons" believe in an agressive foreign policy, empiric intervention in other nations to spread democracy, and global economic-trade policies. Weak on domestic policies, they lack emphasis on national issues. Their vision includes motivating our nation towards what I believe Pres. Bush's father referred to as the "New World Order." Include growth of government and overspending too.

Sound familiar? Now we know why the media refers to Pres. Bush and his administration as "Neocons." Many congressional Republicans belong in this catagory too.

The Republican-controlled Congress has acted and evolved in accordance with the mutant Neocon concept of overspending and overgrowing government, ignoring the burgeoning National and Public Debt approaching $40-60 trillion, most of it owned by foreign investors.

Recent crises and scandals such as social security, medicare, tax reform, earmarks, budget deficits, illegal aliens and gasoline prices gain the media spotlight for a few days or weeks. Then they seem to fade away, crammed together on the "we'll deal with you later"shelf. Always later.

My wake-up call came the morning I woke up to Howard Dean saying, "The first thing we want is tough border control, we have to do a much better job on our borders than George Bush has done." Though I knew this was blatant political rhetoric, it was shocking because I completely agreed with him.

Pres. Bush and the Congress have ignored domestic security of our homeland, borders and ports — until it was raised by the people! But if I agree with a liberal democrat, that does not a democrat make.

It is clear that the Grand Old Party has evolved and mutated which leaves a large conservative group, the Paleocons, scratching their heads and wondering what happened? I, for one, feel isolated from the GOP. The Party has entombed the Paleocons on the sidelines, bleached fossils, puzzled eyes peering at the GOP's total embrace of Neo-conservatism.

There is excited talk about Congress gearing up and acting on a few issues before the upcoming elections so they won't lose voters. I've got news for them. They have already lost citizens like this old fossil, who have reflected on the last five years of non-conservative actions.

Where's the limits on spending, limits on growth in government, adherence to the U.S. Constitution? Where's the traditional values and seeking the good of the nation as a whole instead of the corruptive influence of special interests? Yes, there are a few "Paleocons" in Congress but they are not listened to nor even heard amongst the clamor of "Neocons" and "Liberals" calling each other names.

I am a living fossil as are million of citizens, which brings me to the point. Where's the party that speaks to my conscience? I am past that retort: "Oh no! you must vote Republican or the Democrats will win!" Oh Please! I say — so what? Has it made any difference?

The Grand Old Party appears to have accepted this "Neocon" mutation, to move towards a world economy policy, open borders and the "New World Order." Why would I, this old fossil of white-bleached bones, vote for any republican candidate? No longer does the Republican Party speak to or for my "conscience."

As for this Paleocon, I am searching for a party that matches my "conscience." This is the one freedom citizens still have in this country — a citizen's privilege and responsibility to vote his or her "conscience." This old fossil takes this duty seriously.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 3rdpartyidiot; ancienttimes; bs; conservatives; darkages; getjobspaleos; gop; howarddean; irrelevant; livinginavacuum; losers; mnjohnnieisback; neoconservatives; parishandpoverty; propaganda; vote3rdpartyandlose; whitetrash
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To: tertiary01

Look at the Dem platform when Hubert Humphrey was running.
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I have. But I do not think you have. Never were so many new big govt. programs sponsored and implemented by dems as back in the 60s and they are all listed in the platform of the Dems in 1968.

As for HH---he was a left winger but you might be referring to the fact that he rejected the so-called peace platform. On everything else he was quite the liberal- the Wellstone of his time.

As for Kennedy and the tax cuts...to the dismay of dems, Republicans have used Kennedy's own words to promote tax cuts. He was certainly right on that. Supply side economics works.


241 posted on 06/10/2006 9:24:05 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Paul Ross

Why do RINOs care if the paleocons go? Using false pretenses, they snuck into the Republican party and took it over. Well, now they have it.


242 posted on 06/10/2006 9:26:45 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: MadelineZapeezda
You violate the rule of NO WHINING!!! Look it up..

You just whined, hypocrit.

243 posted on 06/10/2006 10:01:09 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: rmlew

Neocon, shmeocon. Ain't no such thing.


244 posted on 06/10/2006 10:55:24 PM PDT by pissant
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To: FerdieMurphy

I really hate the terms "neo" and "paleo" conservative. At least the "neo-conservative" phrase, and probably "paleo" as well, was invented by a bitter socialist, angry that former liberals were turning conservative, in an attempt to divide the conservatives and turn them against each other.

Guess we can choose to let the socialists have their wish... or not.



245 posted on 06/10/2006 10:59:00 PM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: A. Pole
None of the 9/11 bombers were from Iraq. And there was a good reason why Ronald Reagan was supporting Saddam Hussein.

But no one must dare question your patriotism.

246 posted on 06/10/2006 11:01:16 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: rustbucket
Bill Archer retired from Congress some years ago. Did they keep him as chair of a House committee?

LOL. Good one.

247 posted on 06/11/2006 12:27:44 AM PDT by Sandy ("You show me a nation without partisanship, and I'll show you a tyranny.")
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To: meema
Rectitis is a serious disease. It begins in one's anus, travels up the spinal column, and ends up in the optic nerve.

The final result of this migratory rectitis is that it gives one a shi--y outlook on practically everything.

So be kind to some Minnesotans by just ignoring them. Eventually the disease, or the one infected will go away.

248 posted on 06/11/2006 4:19:21 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: No.6
And then there are paleosocialists like Teddy Kennedy, et al. There is, of course, a vast difference between that type and a paleoconservative.

Somehow one can just envision that crusty, flabby old paleosocialist waddling through the senate for all these years accomplishing nothing good for this nation. In fact, he has done as much as he can to denegrate his country and is truly, like many of his colleagues, a disgrace.

Oh please, God, why does there have to be so many of them?

249 posted on 06/11/2006 4:25:19 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: hedgetrimmer
Why do RINOs care if the paleocons go?

They manifestly do...so long as they can keep them duped, anyways. The ones that they can't, they scorn and urge to leave...as right here on this thread we see Jonnie spewing his hate for conservatives, "don't let the screen door hit you on the way out." They pressured Pat Buchanan to leave...who foolishly did leave, and tried mighty hard to get Alan Keyes to leave, who didn't. Etc.

Using false pretenses, they snuck into the Republican party and took it over. Well, now they have it.

It ain't over til' its over. I would say they have the White House, and about 11-12 GOP Senate seats. I would be surprised if more than 50 GOP house members are seriously RINO. But in both houses, those are significant numbers, that when they behave as a covert bloc, can decisively impact leadership selection when there are split fields. The conservatives need to coalesce outside of the bodies, and get unified...putting forth solid leadership candidates for House Speaker, and Senate Majority Leader. Recover the leadership positions, and start cleaning house in the Chairmanships, and the conservatives can still recover governance. The Congress has to get its own house in order...quelling the ideological subversion and corruption...then it can confront...and put down... the Rogue Presidency.

The President should be told in no uncertain terms that his Leftist and Globalist agenda is finished.

250 posted on 06/11/2006 6:48:23 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: hedgetrimmer

It occurs to me that Congress is, in potential, still the most powerful branch of government. The power of the purse needs to be exercised by conservatives. Start defunding the Left. No more PBS funding. No more NPR. No more National Arts Endowment. No more funding for GLobalism. No more OPIC funding. No more World Bank subsidy. No more funding for the State Dept. funding of the Law of the Sea Treaty, or CAFTA, NAFTA, or FTAA. No funding, no acts. They will just expire.


251 posted on 06/11/2006 7:09:12 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: eleni121

So the Dems originally passed medicare and 40 years later the Pub controlled Congress and Pres pass Medicare D. Seems that the GOP has just become a copycat.


252 posted on 06/11/2006 7:46:44 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: Paul Ross

There are not enough real conservatives to accomplish this admirable agenda. Another 20% increase in real conservatives could do it in the House and Senate. (I do not agree with you on the need to abolish Free trade however)

For ex.,Ted Stevens Republican in Alaska for years defended public broadcsting (CBB) in his committee.


253 posted on 06/11/2006 9:39:42 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
I do not agree with you on the need to abolish Free trade however

"free trade" is the ideology behind massive illegal immigration into this country and is being codified in the WTO to support global mass migration to first world countries with the goal of wealth redistribution to 'least developed countries'. It is a distinctly unconservative and unrepublican ideology.
254 posted on 06/11/2006 10:34:08 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: colonel mosby

"John McCain had to be dragged kicking and screaming to vote to repeal the tax."

I have a hard time beleiving John McCain is a conservative at all, let alone a Neo/Paleo.

I see only CINO.

Regards,
Snot


255 posted on 06/11/2006 12:47:45 PM PDT by ottersnot (Purge the moderate traitors in the GOP. Vote Conservative. Dump McCain)
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To: eleni121

Ted Stevens has been a thorn in the side of conservative fiscal policy and limited government since day one.


256 posted on 06/12/2006 5:49:15 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: FerdieMurphy
"Paleo-Conservatives Departing The Grand Old Party"

Recycled headline. I see this every election year... especially since the GOP took over Congress.

Liberals and leftist are quite the simpletons...they still subscribe to the thought that if they repeat a lie enough times, everyone will believe it. Abe's quote about "fooling the people" applies still today, and especially to the left.

We're going to see some version of this headline weekly until the next Presidential election. So, go ahead and get ready for a lot of yawning.
257 posted on 06/12/2006 6:05:32 AM PDT by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down...)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Actually, I'm won't be leaving the Republican Party, it will be leaving me. If they miss me, I can still be found in the same place, politically speaking.


258 posted on 06/12/2006 6:11:03 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: A. Pole
None of the 9/11 bombers were from Iraq.

So what's YOUR point?

259 posted on 06/12/2006 6:12:28 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: frogjerk
[frogjerk:]BUSH brought the fight to the terrorists...

[me:]None of the 9/11 bombers were from Iraq.

A hint: compare your line with my line.

Second hint: why Ronald Reagan was supporting Saddam Hussein?

A bonus question: why suspect terrorist are "rendered" to Syria if Syria were to be pro-terrorist state?

260 posted on 06/12/2006 8:37:36 AM PDT by A. Pole (Sir Walter Scott: "Oh, the tangled webs we weave when we practice to deceive.")
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