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How is this different from a beijing sweatshop??
1 posted on 06/09/2006 6:24:57 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars

pier 1 stopped buying in 2004. They just now got the word ?


2 posted on 06/09/2006 6:28:40 AM PDT by stylin19a
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"I hoped we would be financially secure by now," says founder Kat Kinkade, 75. "We're not."

But, but...communism is going to save the world so we can all live in peace and financial security! The TV told me so. How can this be??

3 posted on 06/09/2006 6:30:05 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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The real world cuts through the bong smoke.


4 posted on 06/09/2006 6:30:07 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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Because it's all about them channeling their karma and their chi, dude. And helping the environment, maaaan. And, like, being socialist, dude.

Besides, the oppressed in a sweatshop don't get weed, bra. Puff puff pass.

(/sarcasm)

These guys are about an hour up the road from here. We should get some folks to crash the place with a couple thousand gallons of soapy water and some fire hoses and help preserve the environment by washing off the patchouli oil that covers the funk.


5 posted on 06/09/2006 6:30:20 AM PDT by Moose4 (Please don't call me "white trash." I prefer "Caucasian recyclable.")
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because like it's a lifestyle, man. $2 dollars aday is enough to buy twigs and berries which is what Adam ate, dude.

Plus, we grow our own tofu on the tofu tree man. Oh yeah and we also grow and sell weed over at teh local Community college.


6 posted on 06/09/2006 6:32:07 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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Maybe they should sell some of their 500 acres to the state so they can build affordable housing.

Land owning pigs.

How much money do you think "Apple" would see if they sold say 200 acres for 15 million?

I'd say she would see about $2.

I want my 2 dollars!


7 posted on 06/09/2006 6:34:45 AM PDT by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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What a bunch of fools. Who are they trying to kid, themselves?
8 posted on 06/09/2006 6:38:37 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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What ideology holds this group together? According to one rumor I heard, it was B F Skinner's "Walden Two" behaviorism. Can someone help me out here?


11 posted on 06/09/2006 6:43:40 AM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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Communism relies on capitalism one way or another. Just consider the commune a poorly run corporation
12 posted on 06/09/2006 6:44:33 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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"How is this different from a beijing sweatshop??"


Check it out:


http://www.twinoaks.org/FAQ.html


So lemme get this straight. You work a minimum of 42 hours a week. You get 1 bedroom, share a car with 3 other people, eat crappy soy hippie food and only get 75 bucks a month to spend in the outside world.

It sounds like a regular communist paradise. I'll bet they also have a corrupt leadership.
13 posted on 06/09/2006 6:46:58 AM PDT by varyouga (I no longer fear death. I only fear the day when the DUmmies take over.)
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I've no problem with this commune as its membership is voluntary and they require no money, participation, or acknowledgement from me.
Is it really any different from a tight knit community or enclave following a common set of beliefs?


15 posted on 06/09/2006 6:49:37 AM PDT by posterchild
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How is this different from a beijing sweatshop??

These yahoos are there voluntarily, and believe that sh**.

16 posted on 06/09/2006 6:51:59 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,400+ snide replies and counting!)
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Other members argue that salvation lies in ramping up Twin Oaks tofu.... the tofu hut is a literal sweatshop: hot, damp, and factory-like. The tofu managers have had a hard time persuading residents to pick up the extra shifts that are needed to expand production.... There's concern that the communal culture will change if members are pushed into the scheduled, repetitive, money-oriented labor that many of them joined Twin Oaks to escape. If that happens, some residents will probably move on.

First, eeeewwwwww. Second, join the 21st century, people. Third, to make a profit and actually become self-sustaining, they need to embrace capitalism, not eschew it. But I guess they're learning that the hard way.

By the way, land here in Central Virginia is going through the roof. They could certainly raise a nice bit of capital by selling a few of their 450 acres to a developer, but that would defeat the purpose of their self-imposed isolation/insulation from "the real world." Oh, the decisions we face. For some reason this clan of aging hippies brings to mind T.S. Eliot's Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock:

No! I am not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be;
Am an attendant lord, one that will do
To swell a progress, start a scene or two,
Advise the prince; no doubt, an easy tool,
Deferential, glad to be of use,
Politic, cautious, and meticulous;
Full of high sentence, but a bit obtuse;
At times, indeed, almost ridiculous—
Almost, at times, the Fool.

18 posted on 06/09/2006 6:59:45 AM PDT by shezza (God bless our military heroes)
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They aren't bothering me. More power to them. They chose a tough life. Note: "Chose" is the operative word.


20 posted on 06/09/2006 7:09:37 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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Nothing like a feel good story about smelly hippies.


23 posted on 06/09/2006 7:17:37 AM PDT by pissant
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Most [commune members] don't aspire to join the managerial ranks. "You don't get more money or a bigger room being a manager, just more of a headache," says Apple, 32, who joined the commune in 2003

Gee, ya' think??   You can almost see the lightbulb beginning to flicker in little "Apple's" soy-soaked brain.

25 posted on 06/09/2006 7:19:50 AM PDT by Libertarian444
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Kinkade and seven other dreamers launched Twin Oaks on 69 acres of rolling Virginia farmland that they bought for $26,500 in 1967.

These figures struck me as an awful lot of dough for 1967. So poking around the web I found one of those "How-much-would-it-cost-today?" conversion thingies.

Yes, I know, it is a very ball-park figure, but turns out the equivalent of $26.5K in 1967 is $105.3K in 2005. This mean that Miss Kinade -- who was a secretary at the time, I believe-- and seven others "dreamers" ponied up the equivalent of at least $105K in today's money to "open a commune to they hoped to escape the political and social tumult of the 1960s by forming a self-sustaining rural community."

Has the distinct wiff of Varsallies about it.....


28 posted on 06/09/2006 7:23:42 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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How is this different from a beijing sweatshop??

Could it be that they aren't forced to be there?

31 posted on 06/09/2006 7:31:00 AM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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QUOTE OF THE YEAR:

"Pier 1 was a boon to the community," says Kathryn, a 29-year-old manager in the hammock business. "For a lot of us, losing them was also kind of exciting - no more working for a multinational. But now we really have to deal with what we want to be as a business."

HAHAHAHA....I can't stop laughing..."losing a multinational customer was exciting" Oh my god, only a leftist would find this exciting...


33 posted on 06/09/2006 7:33:06 AM PDT by Tulane
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This sounds like "Animal Farm".

Gee, maybe if instead of making hammocks and tofu, they diversified into items with greater profit margins and were in greater demand? Like tennis shoes.


35 posted on 06/09/2006 7:51:40 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "I'M YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE...AN AMERICAN...and I am voting!")
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