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Constitutional Amendment on Marriage Fails
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Posted on 06/07/2006 8:37:51 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh

Edited on 06/07/2006 11:34:52 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Constitutional Amendment on Marriage Fails

Wednesday, June 07, 2006 WASHINGTON — A constitutional amendment to define marriage as a union between one man and one woman stalled Wednesday in a 49-48 vote, but conservative backers say they are pleased to have had the vote nonetheless.

"For thousands of years, marriage — the union between a man and a woman — has been recognized as an essential cornerstone of society. ... We must continue fighting to ensure the Constitution is amended by the will of the people rather than by judicial activism,” said Senate Majority leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., after the vote.

A constitutional amendment needs two-thirds votes to pass, but first had to get through the procedural cloture vote, which requires 60 senators to agree to end the debate and move toward final passage.

Shy 11 votes to go to a final debate, few crossed the political aisle to vote against their party's majority position. Republican Sens. John McCain, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Judd Gregg, Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chafee and John Sununu voted against the cloture vote. Democratic Sens. Ben Nelson and Robert Byrd voted for it, as they did in 2004. Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel and Demcratic Sens. Chris Dodd and Jay Rockefeller were absent.


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To: Siena Dreaming

With enough Republicans so that even making cloture (60) let alone the super-majority for passage (67) was a pipe dream. It's hardly in a "badge of honor" category in any case. Sometimes people don't pass laws in hysterics, that's all. There's a good reason the Constitution is so hard to amend.


101 posted on 06/07/2006 9:41:23 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Whoever runs against McCain in the primaries in 2008 better use this against McCain. Stick a fork in ole RINO for he is done.

Stick a fork in him you may..
and RINO he is..
but done, nah!

Who do we have that's a serious challenger...seriously?

103 posted on 06/07/2006 9:42:00 AM PDT by evad
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To: andy58-in-nh
The estate tax needs to go, too, but it does not rise to the level of a critical issue.

On the contrary. Attempting to reestablish the notion that there are some decent limits to the reach of the tax man's claws is about as critical as any issue could be.

104 posted on 06/07/2006 9:42:20 AM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: BostonCreamPie
Yes, but you conjured up doomsday scenarios of public kissing and hand holding. What does FMA have to do with that? Nothing.

Now you are lying... -please point out anywhere I have posted such a "dommsday" posting??? LOL (hopefully you will capitulate before you are zotted?)

105 posted on 06/07/2006 9:42:27 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: BostonCreamPie
Something like the FMA or other anti-Gay legislation

Wow, now the truth comes out. You're PRO gay agenda. Now, I at least know where you're coming from. It all makes sense now.

Just as a side note... What the heck are you doing on The Freep with those opinions. That's like me going to DU to talk about virtues of Bible study groups.

106 posted on 06/07/2006 9:43:08 AM PDT by Bassfan (No cheese please)
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To: zeaal
Would someone please give McCain a change of political party card to fill out! Likewise with Spector.

Good idea. But I think I'll just email their offices a little greeting card:

 

      Welcome to the Democrat Party, Senator. It suits you.

107 posted on 06/07/2006 9:43:53 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: discostu
there was absolutely no way they were going to get 67

Of course not, but these types of votes are taken all the time in the Senate and are not necessarily grand-standing.

It serves a purpose to get the Senators on record. That way the voters in their states can work to get a Senator in or out dependent on how they voted.

Also, if a vote is taken again in 6 months or so it can be seen if progress is being made.

It doesn't hurt to get McCain on record for example. It is hard to see how he can be elected in 08 after this one.

109 posted on 06/07/2006 9:45:05 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: BostonCreamPie

Engaging in "a stupid ******* waste of time" is par for the course for most of these clowns.


110 posted on 06/07/2006 9:45:05 AM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

McCain is sacrificing long term possible gains just to please the media. This moron can stay out of Iowa.


112 posted on 06/07/2006 9:45:28 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: andy58-in-nh

McCain is sacrificing long term possible gains just to please the media. This moron can stay out of Iowa.


113 posted on 06/07/2006 9:45:31 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: BostonCreamPie
Hope it hurts him in the coming election. In New Jersey? ha

Well with our ex governors new book coming out, and Menendez's vote against marriage it might hurt a little.

114 posted on 06/07/2006 9:46:57 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

You can say that again. ;-)


115 posted on 06/07/2006 9:47:05 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: linda_22003
Sometimes people don't pass laws in hysterics

I don't think getting Senators on record on such an important issue is necessarily "hysterics".

I don't know it for a fact, but I'll bet that many of the amendments in our Constitution didn't make it through on the first try.

116 posted on 06/07/2006 9:47:41 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: rogue yam
Have you considered the possibility that those who attach importance to issues for reasons other than the immediate impact on their wallets might simply be more sophisticated and forward-thinking than you?

Tell you what. You agree to pay my extra costs from these idiots' failures to deal with the pocketbook issues (in addition to your own), and I'll concur with this argument.

117 posted on 06/07/2006 9:47:41 AM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Republican Sens. John McCain, Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, Judd Gregg, Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chafee and John Sununu voted against the cloture vote.

Anyone surprised?

118 posted on 06/07/2006 9:50:28 AM PDT by b4its2late (I love defenseless animals, especially in a good gravy!)
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To: BostonCreamPie
1)I'm sure I know more about the bible than you (graduate degree in medieval theology).I've taken seminary classes as well and even teach in my congregation. Biblical studies are my hobby.

NOW WHAT DOES ANY OF THAT HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT I WROTE YOU? I made a comparison of venues, not to your knowledge of theology.

Seems a diversion tactic to me

119 posted on 06/07/2006 9:51:02 AM PDT by Bassfan (No cheese please)
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To: Siena Dreaming

No actually it is always entirely grandstanding. Getting the Senators "on record" has no purpose other than to allow them to go home and insist they "tried" but because of the preponderance of {insert this week's bad guy} in the Senate they couldn't win, but they "tried" so please re-elect them and maybe try to get them some more help "for the future". It's 100% grandstanding every single time, the only purpose it serves is to help the next campaign.

It would have to be in 7 months, after the new winners from mid-terms are elected.

It doesn't help to get McCain "on record" either, he'd already made his position clear to anybody that was paying attention. It won't hurt him in 08, his biggest mountain has always been the conservatives that don't like, they didn't like him in 2000 and won't like him in 2008, but if he finds a way to get the nod he'll cakewalk into the Whitehouse because a lot of libs (especially the press) totally dig him.


120 posted on 06/07/2006 9:51:18 AM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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