Posted on 06/06/2006 7:45:05 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
Welcome to the live thread for the California Primary Election. Polls are open until 8pm tonight. If you are a registered voter, it is your duty to vote and defend your rights and civil liberties, protect your pocketbook, and vote the bums out where applicable.
Feel free to discuss issues key to your local area that others may be interested in. Post your polling place experiences if you like. And post numbers as they come in later tonight.
That is really unnecessary and disreprectful.
LOL --- I just might.
Happy talk is fine to a point but living in the real world
I can take just so much of it. You know what I mean.
Fingers crossed...I just want to see how the MSM is going to spin his win. They were salivating that should he lose, Dems will take over in November....What do you suppose they'll say now?
Figures. Here's hoping LA didn't bother voting.
Those Interested in 24th CD:
Gallegly's leading 80 to 20.
You wrote:
***Jump through hoops? Why not just set up an office and sell citizenship papers at the border crossings?? Same thing.***
You are incorrect.
The Senate bill is terribly flawed, so many loopholes to drive a truck through. However, Bush has not endorsed the Senate Bill in its current form. He has endorsed getting the bill out of the Senate and to a conference with the House.
Bush himself had offered his thoughts as to the hoops. People would have to pay a fine of some thousands and pay unpaid back taxes as well. They would have to have a clean criminal record. They would have to have worked for a number of years steady in a job. They would have to learn English if they haven't yet. After all of these hoops, they would then be allowed to get in line behind all of the other people who are already in line legally to become citizens of the United States. That is, if they want to become citizens after knowing what all they have to do.
I think the rub would be enforcement, as always. However, you are wrong, and embarassingly so, if you want to try to sell it that the hoops the President outlines is the same as selling citizenship papers at the border.
But go on and make yourself look like a lunkhead, who cares?
Oh, and I noted how you picked out my words that didn't include the news that Bush has named the head of the Secret Service to head the Border Patrol and Customs.
How very transparent...
If no candidate gets 35% of the vote, it goes to a convention.
The other race of note in Iowa for the GOP has Mike Whalen winning the GOP Primary to fill Jim Nussle's Cong. seat. Whalen is the owner of the Machine Shed Restaurants.
They'll spin that he didn't make the margin of GOP voters in the district and shows disaffection and GOP vulnerability.
:) --- Thanks. My headache is waning and I am feeling better!
May have something to do with the first ACTUAL returns going Brian's way.
Bilbray captures early lead in race for scandal-rocked House seat
http://www.bakersfield.com/119/story/55627.html
By ALLISON HOFFMAN, | Tuesday, Jun 6 2006 9:15 PM
Last Updated: Tuesday, Jun 6 2006 9:15 PM
A former Republican congressman led in early results Tuesday in a solid GOP district where Democrats hoped to capitalize on a GOP corruption scandal and capture the House seat once held by Randy "Duke" Cunningham.
The costly and contentious race between Republican Brian Bilbray and Democrat Francine Busby, a local school board member who ran against Cunningham in 2004, was closely watched as a possible early barometer of next fall's vote.
With 11 percent of precincts reporting in absentee voting, Bilbray led with 20,448 votes or 51 percent, followed by Busby with 17,329 votes or 43 percent.
National Democrats spent nearly $2 million on the high-stakes contest, and the GOP spent $4.5 million. President Bush and first lady Laura Bush recorded automated telephone messages for Bilbray. A mass e-mailing from Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the party's 2004 presidential candidate, was sent last week to more than 100,000 supporters, urging them to help get out the vote. Former Vice President Al Gore also recorded a message telling Democrats to go to the polls.
Cunningham's downfall threatened to upset the electoral balance in this longtime GOP stronghold, where registered Republicans outnumber Democrats 3-to-2. Cunningham pleaded guilty last year to accepting $2.4 million in bribes from defense contractors and was sentenced in March to more than eight years in prison.
Well before Election Day, some Democrats claimed victory just by forcing a fight for the seat.
"If I get close, then we've made the point that this is no longer a safe seat, but it's not enough," Busby said in a recent interview. "We want to win."
The victor will serve the remaining seven months of Cunningham's term - and immediately begin campaigning for the November midterm elections.
In other California races, Rep. John Doolittle, R-Rocklin, who has faced criticism over his close association with disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff, and Rep. Richard Pombo, R-Tracy, faced rare primary challenges.
Doolittle faced Auburn Mayor Mike Holmes, who raised little money but sought to draw attention to ethics questions surrounding Doolittle and portray the incumbent as out-of-touch. Former U.S. Rep. Pete McCloskey came out of retirement to challenge Pombo on his environmental record and other issues.
Busby focused her campaign on public dissatisfaction with the Bush administration and the GOP-led Congress, and assailed Bilbray for working as a lobbyist in Washington.
Immigration politics have animated many voters in the San Diego-area district less than an hour north of the Mexican border.
Busby backed a Senate-passed bill that combines enhanced border security with a guest worker program and a shot at citizenship for many of the 11 million illegal immigrants in the country.
Bilbray called for constructing a fence "from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico" and barring illegal immigrants from collecting Social Security and other benefits.
That stance impressed voter Gene Luth, a 62-year-old general contractor from Rancho Santa Fe, about 25 miles north of San Diego. "He'll be able to get things done on the border issue, which is very important to San Diegans," Luth said.
Believe me, I had no idea Cox could beat Padilla. I haven't even been following her campaign.
I knew she had a great reputation, but this shows just how many folks in this HEAVY Dem city are behind her.
Who knows? Maybe some day even Filner might get beat!
I'm sticking with your 95% odds.
Arnold wants preschool for all, he just didn't want the 'taxes on the rich' portion. He added millions ($50 Million, IIRC) to his May Budget Revision to pay for preschool for the poor.
Of course I know exactly what you mean.
I just wish EVERYONE understood.
The problem with the polls is that they showed Culver winning by a large margin over his Dem opponents. Turnout was low and Culver won by just a couple of percentage points over Blouin.
At least San Francisco has about 64.8% reported; easy to figure out the rest of the night when that's out of the way!
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