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Bush is the Next Reagan
Persian Journal ^ | Jun 4, 2006 | Slater Bakhtavar

Posted on 06/04/2006 2:24:14 PM PDT by nuconvert

Bush is the Next Reagan

Jun 4, 2006

Slater Bakhtavar - Persian Journal

The same people who heavily criticized former President Reagan for his tough stance against Communism and for his aggressive push for democracy in Eastern Europe are now attacking President Bush for his tough stance against fundamentalism and his aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East.

-They argued then that Communism would never fall - it did They argue now that Islamic Fundamentalism will never fall - it will

-They argued then that the Soviet Union is too strong - it wasn't

They argue now that the insurgency is too strong - it isn't

-They argued that Reagans vision of democracy in East Europe would never work - it did

They argue now that Bushs vision of democracy for the mid-east would never work - it will

They argued then that Reagans evil empire speech was a failure - it wasn't

They argue now that Bushs axis of evil speech is a failure - it won't be

-They argued then that former soviet bloc countries wouldn't embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that middle east countries would never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that Eastern Europeans nations would never be our allies - they are

They argue now that middle eastern countries will never be our allies - they will be

-They argued then that people without God could never embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that Muslims will never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that President Reagan was unrealistic - he wasn't

They argue now that President Bush is unrealistic - he'll prove he isn't

-They argued then democracy isn't universal to former Communists - it was

They argue now democracy isn't universal to Middle Easterners - it will be

-They argued then that funding of pro-democracy groups in Eastern European countries won't work - it did

They argue now that funding of pro-democracy groups won't work in the Middle East - it will

The same exact critcism was directed at Reagan. The future will be the judge of President Bush and my guess is that he will be judged as the Great Liberator of the Middle East.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfolds; deify; democracy; liberators; middleeast; reagan; spendalot; strongleader; weakposters; worstprezever
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To: ClaireSolt

If you have read Pastor's paper, and the SPP, you won't think it a stretch.

Pastor has said repeatedly that because the PEOPLE won't agree to integrating the country, it has to be done in other ways. Setting up transportation system that bypass sovereign border controls is one way. Unlimited illegal immigration (or immigration based on "trade") is another. We certainly have both those methods underway in the US.


661 posted on 06/05/2006 7:36:47 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: raybbr
I was just going to post one more time to apologize for posting to you when I said I wouldn't.

I will try my hardest to overlook what I believe is spiteful and wrong.

I will never understand why a man of character and integrity and fundamental decency such as President Bush arouses such rage in those such as yourself, and it is pointless to try to either reason, or shame you into better behavior as long as you feel as you do.

I will not post to you again.

662 posted on 06/05/2006 8:18:07 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: stopem
These are people for whom facts don't matter, stopem.

History will prove them wrong, but I wouldn't bet a cent that any of them will ever have the courage or decency to admit it.

This is an historic presidency, and we should all be thanking God that this man of character is leading us during this dangerous time.

663 posted on 06/05/2006 8:23:32 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance
EV you are wasting your time .

Even if we end up in a bankrupt third world global community where we and our national identity, sovereignty and constitution are trashed these cheerleaders will still be singing the praises of George Bush even if their kids has to do it in a welfare line and sing it in Spanish.

No one seems to notice in that comparison that Regan accomplished those things and all of President's Bush's is still future and are maybe will be ,soon to be,ought to be,is going to be, etc. etc.

664 posted on 06/05/2006 8:27:25 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: Krodg; All

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I'm on your side, BUSH's side.

But my experience with the way the Anti-Freedom Democrats rode LBJ right out of the Presidency. Just like they are trying to do to our Commander in Chief BUSH now in a new time of war.

Only this time it's our own Freedom that's at stake, not South Vietnam's.

The difference now is you and I have the CLARITY of the internet, Conservative Talk Radio and the FoX News Channel that we didn't have back in the 1960's & 1970's to make things right out there in them thar hills. Tools that would have kept a then Free South Vietnam Free back then.

BUSH is under attack by our enemies without and within.

THEY MUST BE MET BLOW for BLOW.
On our own Turf.
The CLARITY Turf.

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665 posted on 06/05/2006 9:15:21 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: mississippi red-neck

LIFE

I wonder what it's all about, and why
We suffer so, when little things go wrong?
We make our life a struggle,
When life should be a song.

Our troubles break and drench us,
Like spray on the cleaving prow
Of some trim Gloucester schooner
As it dips in a graceful bow.

Our troubles break and drench us
But like that cleaving prow,
The wind will fan and dry us.
And we'll watch some other bow.

But why does sorrow drench us
When our fellow passes on?
He's just exchanged life's dreary dirge
For an eternal life of song.

What is the inborn human trait
That frowns on a life of song?
That makes us weep at the journey's end,
When the journey was oft-times wrong?

Weep when we reach the door
That opens to let us in,
And brings to us eternal peace
As it closes again on sin.

Millions have gone before us,
And millions will come behind.
So why do we curse and fight
At a fate both wise and kind.

We hang onto a jaded life
A life full of sorrow and pain.
A life that warps and breaks us,
And we try to run through it again.

Ronald Reagan
February 6, 1911 ~ June 5, 2004


666 posted on 06/05/2006 9:29:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: mississippi red-neck
"Whatever else history may say about me when I’m gone, I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears; to your confidence rather than your doubts. My dream is that you will travel the road ahead with liberty’s lamp guiding your steps and opportunity’s arm steadying your way." ~ Ronald W. Reagan
667 posted on 06/05/2006 9:31:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: nopardons
I don't call defeating communism in Russia, and the tumbling of the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain, only glib talk by any stretch of the imagination.

Nor was Reagan's boundless enthusiasm for conservatism, and his constant promotion of it, "glib talk." He attracted tens of thousands of young people like myself to the Conservative cause. Most of us are still part of it, because of him, despite the nasty, miserable and disagreeable people we must endure for the good of it.

You can fight reality all you want but Reagan will continue to be judged as GREAT throughout the rest of American history while President Bush will be seen as GOOD.

668 posted on 06/05/2006 9:53:45 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ronaldus Magnimus = The GREAT One!)
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To: ohioWfan
"Perhaps it is you who are in the wrong league....."

I said president Bush was not in the same league as President Reagan, as President Reagan will always be seen as a GREAT president for a VARIETY of reasons, that I previously mentioned. I never said anything about the wrong league.

But leave it to you to make it personal.

Some people just don't see President Bush as possessing the GREATNESS of President Reagan, a reality you are going to have to learn to accept, particularly because that is the way President Bush will also be judged in the history books. I suggest you prepare yourself.

669 posted on 06/05/2006 10:10:28 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ronaldus Magnimus = The GREAT One!)
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To: Krodg
Your post makes some excellent points that I firmly agree with, well said.

However, I would like to take issue with the following, particularly since you made the point we all should be united and stand beside President Bush:

"I will stand firm with my President."

President Bush isn't just your president, he is OUR president.

670 posted on 06/05/2006 10:40:13 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ronaldus Magnimus = The GREAT One!)
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To: ohioWfan
This is an historic presidency, and we should all be thanking God that this man of character is leading us during this dangerous time.

BUMP!

671 posted on 06/06/2006 1:34:20 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: ohioWfan

It's pathetic!

He has accomplished a lot and people need to support him imstead of buying into the liberal MSM propaganda.


672 posted on 06/06/2006 3:13:01 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: All
This article is so off base where to begin?

They argue now that Islamic Fundamentalism will never fall - it will

Wrong! It's jealousy has survived since the days of Ishmael and later Esau it will not go away by a Bush magic wand. Indeed be very leery of one who brings such peace it is a false one and a great deception to the world very short lived.

They argue now that the insurgency is too strong - it isn't

Again these tribes have fought amongst themselves for 3500 plus years and have a deep rooted hate. Reality says it's not gonna happen. History days it's not gonna happen. The Bible spells out be watchful when Islam makes peace with the world.

They argue now that middle eastern countries will never be our allies - they will be

And may well turn on you in the next mis-step when it involves another M.E. nation.

-They argued then that people without God could never embrace democracy - they did They argue now that Muslims will never embrace democracy - they will

Uh the people in those nations {Former Soviet etc were Christian under persecution by their government} This article has more holes than swiss cheese.

They argue now democracy isn't universal to Middle Easterners - it will be

Oh please! As such except for very brief periods it never has been. Bush will not alter 3500 plus years of history and hate in that region.

They argue now that funding of pro-democracy groups won't work in the Middle East - it will The same exact critcism was directed at Reagan. The future will be the judge of President Bush and my guess is that he will be judged as the Great Liberator of the Middle East.

Good grief who wrote this propaganda? How blind can a nation be? The Middle East will never be at peace except when the world as a whole is deceived into a FALSE PEACE brokered by the former Roman Empire and involving the former Soviet Union, the Middle East, and the former Roman Empire.

The only thing this man is doing is helping usher in such a global system which leads to this very thing. Yes indeed such as he will be seen in the eyes of most as being a prophet and a great leader. He is no Ronald W. Reagan and to imply him as ever being such is an insult to a much greater man than Bush will ever be. Reagan didn't seek the advice of fools and then act on it. That right there is the major difference between the two men.

673 posted on 06/06/2006 4:08:00 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: stopem
I thank God that Bush was President when 9-11 occurred. Bubba did nothing....AND WE HAD BEEN HIT IN NYC IN 1993 by these "followers". No upping security, no going after the perps, pussyfooting around Usama.

Bubba just passed out more rose colored glasses and ignored all the terrorists attacks that occurred.

President Bush took the bull by the horns.

The President's decision was difficult but necessary and that includes going to Iraq. Imagine if Saddam had gotten from under the restraints of the UN.....and he was very, very close.

Pray for President Bush, our troops and our people.

674 posted on 06/06/2006 4:15:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
Bubba did nothing....AND WE HAD BEEN HIT IN NYC IN 1993 by these "followers". No upping security, no going after the perps, pussyfooting around Usama.

Prior to 9/11, Bush didn't do anything about the earlier incident either. Just like Bubba. Nor did he campaign on it. So he apparently shared the elite bipartisan consensus that the earlier attack was nothing serious. And he and McCain both publicly supported Clinton's bombing of Christians in favor of Muslim narcoterrorists in eastern Europe.
675 posted on 06/06/2006 4:31:34 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: TAdams8591

I stand corrected.


676 posted on 06/06/2006 5:02:44 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: hedgetrimmer

Is he the author of the FRC paper that is the basis for alarm? What power does he have? Seems to me that you and others are onto him.


677 posted on 06/06/2006 5:13:43 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: stopem
"He has accomplished a lot and people need to support him imstead of buying into the liberal MSM propaganda."

The problem is that several of those things the President has accomplished, conservatives wish he hadn't. This President has done a number of things well and deserves credit for them, but has done too many things that are in direct contravention to the party platform for conservatives to be comfortable with them - and Republicans shouldn't be either. You aren't trying to say that the party platform is "liberal MSM propaganda", are you?

That and the President's PR people should've been fired back in 2000.
678 posted on 06/06/2006 6:26:05 AM PDT by WFBFan
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To: TAdams8591
I didn't make it personal. I just suggested, and I truly think, that there are those who just don't understand the vision of George W. Bush.

There were many conservatives who didn't understand Ronald Reagan's greatness during his administration either.

Some of us understand the greatness of both. I suggest you prepare yourself.

679 posted on 06/06/2006 6:51:43 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

"There were many conservatives who didn't understand Ronald Reagan's greatness during his administration either."

Buckley didn't agree at the time.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDQxMTFhMGM1MDljNjllODVmZTU3NmVlNWUwMjA3MDE=

Regardless of whether or not conservatives understand the President's vision or not.... what makes you think that said conservatives ought to agree with it? What do you see this vision to be?


680 posted on 06/06/2006 7:00:57 AM PDT by WFBFan
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