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RCMP Behind Bomb Material [Now it's a sting?? Entrapment?!]
Toronto Star ^ | Sunday, June 4, 2006 | Michelle Shepard and Isabel Teotonio

Posted on 06/04/2006 12:32:10 PM PDT by canuck_conservative

The delivery of three tonnes of ammonium nitrate to a group suspected of plotting terrorist attacks in southern Ontario was part of an undercover police sting operation, the Toronto Star has learned.

The RCMP said yesterday that after investigating the alleged homegrown terrorist cell for months, they had to move quickly Friday night to arrest 12 men and five youths before the group could launch a bomb attack on Canadian soil.

Sources say investigators who had learned of the group's alleged plan to build a bomb were controlling the sale and transport of the massive amount of fertilizer, a key component in creating explosives. Once the deal was done, the RCMP-led anti-terrorism task force moved in for the arrests.

At a news conference yesterday morning, the RCMP displayed a sample of ammonium nitrate and a crude cell phone detonator they say was seized in the massive police sweep when the 17 were taken into custody. However, they made no mention of the police force's involvement in the sale.

"It was their intent to use it for a terrorist attack," said RCMP assistant commissioner Mike McDonell. "If I can put this in context for you, the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City that killed 168 people was completed with only one tonne of ammonium nitrate."

Ammonium nitrate is a popular fertilizer, but when mixed with fuel oil it can create a powerful explosive.

Standing behind McDonell were the chiefs of police from Toronto and Durham, York and Peel regions, as well as officials with the Ontario Provincial Police and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service — representing about 400 people involved with the investigation of the group.

"This group posed a real and serious threat," said McDonell, speaking near a table with seized evidence such as a 9-mm Luger handgun, military fatigues and two-way radios. "It had the capacity and intent to carry out these acts."

The suspects were allegedly planning to launch attacks in southern Ontario, but officials would not specify targets. Nor would they say if attacks were considered imminent.

However, they did say the TTC was not a target. Sources told the Star that the Toronto headquarters of Canada's spy agency on Front St., adjacent to the CN Tower, was on the group's alleged list.

The names of the 12 adult suspects now in custody were made public yesterday, but identities of the youths under the age of 18 cannot be released, according to Canadian laws protecting minors. Of the adults, six are from Mississauga; four from Toronto and two were already incarcerated in Kingston on gun smuggling charges.

The charges laid against the men included participating in or contributing to the activity of a terrorist group, including training and recruitment; providing or making available property for terrorist purposes; and the commission of indictable offences, including firearms and explosives offences for the benefit of or in association with a terrorist group.

Charged are Fahim Ahmad, 21; Jahmaal James, 23; Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19; and Steven Vikash Chand, 25, all of Toronto; Zakaria Amara, 20; Asad Ansari, 21; Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30; Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21; Saad Khalid, 19; and Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, all of Mississauga; and Mohammed Dirie, 22 and Yasin Abdi Mohamed, 24, who are incarcerated in Kingston.

As officials spoke with reporters, the suspects were being loaded into unmarked vehicles at the Ajax-Pickering police station, where they had spent the night. Wearing leg irons and handcuffs, they were taken to a Brampton courtroom in groups of between two and six to appear before a justice of the peace.

Anser Farooq, a lawyer who represents five of the accused, pointed at snipers on the roof of the courthouse and said: "This is ridiculous. They've got soldiers here with guns. This is going to completely change the atmosphere.

"I think (the police) cast their net far too wide," he said, adding his clients are considering suing law enforcement agencies.

The father of one accused, Mohammed Abdelhaleen, spoke outside the courthouse after his son's appearance, saying there is "no validation" to any of the charges against any of the suspects.

"I have no idea what this is," said the distraught father. "I'm sure it's going to come to nothing. We're playing a political game here. I hope the judicial system realizes this."

With quivering lips, the father said he was in "a very bad place right now. The damage is already done."

Around the same time, Karl Nickner of the Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations issued a statement that he is confident "the justice system will accord these individuals transparency, due process and the presumption of innocence."

"We stand behind our security forces and the Canadian government in their desire to protect Canada," said the executive director. "As Canadian Muslims, we unequivocally condemn terrorism in all of its forms."

It's still unclear how the group of suspects is connected and police yesterday offered few details of its alleged activities. But sources close to the investigation told the Star that the investigation began in2004 when CSIS began monitoring fundamentalist Internet sites and their users.

They later began monitoring a group of young men, and the RCMP launched a criminal investigation. Police allege the group later picked targets and plotted attacks.

Last winter some members of the group, including the teenagers, went to a field north of the city, where they allegedly trained for an attack and made a video imitating warfare.

Sources said some of the younger members forged letters about a bogus school trip to give to their parents so they could attend.

Police said there were no known connections to Al Qaeda or international terrorist organizations, but that the group was homegrown, meaning the suspects were Canadian citizens, or long-time residents and had allegedly become radicalized here.

This type of extremism was blamed for the suicide attacks in London last July which claimed the lives of 52 commuters travelling on the subway and a double-decker bus.

"They appear to have become adherents of a violent ideology inspired by Al Qaeda," said Luc Portelance of CSIS, adding there is no direct link to the network.

John Thompson of the Mackenzie Institute said he has long warned officials about the possibility of homegrown terrorists and what he dubbed the "jihad generation."

"There's been a focus on (recruiting) younger Muslims, especially those who were mostly raised here," said Thompson, who is director of the Toronto-based think tank.

Recruiters, or "ideological conditioners," he said, have been actively seeking members in Toronto-area mosques, community centres and schools since 2002.

Officials have not linked the suspects to terror cells abroad, but Portelance was quick to point out the investigation is ongoing.

Sources say the cases of two men from Georgia, now in custody in the U.S. facing terrorism charges, are connected to alleged members of the Canadian group.

Yesterday, officials offered few details about the suspects or how they met, saying only they come from a "variety of backgrounds" and represented a broad strata, including students, the employed and unemployed.

"It is important to know that this operation in no way reflects negatively on any specific community or ethnocultural group in Canada," said Portelance. "Terrorism is a dangerous ideology, and a global phenomenon. ... Canada is not immune from this ideology."

When asked why Canadians would want to attack targets in Canada, Portelance said: "Clearly, they're motivated by some of the things we see around the world," he said.

"They're against the Western influences in Islamic countries and have an adherence to violence to reach a political objective. But as far as the specific motivators, I think they probably change from individual to individual."

Speaking in Ottawa at an enrolment ceremony for 225 new Canadian military recruits, Prime Minister Stephen Harper offered his views.

"As at other times in our history, we are a target because of who we are and how we live, our society, our diversity and our values — values such as freedom, democracy and the rule of law — the values that make Canada great, values that Canadians cherish."

With files from Jessica Leeder, Harold Levy and Tonda MacCharles


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Bean Counter

Every report I've read indicated it was 3 tons. They ordered it and the police had been monitoring them. The police intercepted the shipment and replaced the AN with some other "powder". Once the purchase was complete the police arrested them.

IMO, it appears to have been handled well from both the Canucks and Americans law enforcement agencies.

Now the politicians will get involved and screw it all up.


81 posted on 06/05/2006 1:50:33 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Threepwood
My bet is that CSIS found these guys on the internet

Why does everyone keep saying it is CSIS that monitors the internet and telephones?

It is CSE (Canada's equivalent of NSA) that does this.
82 posted on 06/05/2006 2:16:58 AM PDT by Allan (*-O)):~{>)
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To: Seruzawa
Two way radios? Contraband? Is that the latest thing that will get you put on the watch list? How about people who purchase 72 hour emergency kits? Better watch them too.

From the other article posted here on FR, it appears they first started their planning in a chat room. I really don't think a two way radio could be considered contraband. I also don't consider most anything included in a 72 hour emergency kit to be contraband. Well, at least nothing I have in my emergency kit. YMMV though.

Well that is, unless your emergency kit contains three tons of ammonium nitrate and a "crude cell phone detonator". Three tons of fertilizer seems to be a bit much for a 72 hour emergency kit. I suppose I could see where a smallish bag of MiracleGro might be something you'd want to toss into your emergency kit because, after all, in an emergency you'd definitely want edible plants to grow as fast as possible.

I haven't determined yet exactly what you'd need a 'crude cell phone detonator' for though. I guess if one was trapped under fallen debris one might want to use the detonator to blast one's way out. Seems a bit radical to me. Would you really need 3 tons of ammonium nitrate though? Wouldn't that be kind of overkill?

83 posted on 06/05/2006 2:27:25 AM PDT by Sally'sConcerns
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To: canuck_conservative

Most people who throw out the phrase, "It's entrapment" don't have a clue what the term means in a legal sense. This appears to be no exception.


84 posted on 06/05/2006 2:42:46 AM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: fso301

"I'm thinking even more about Tim McVeigh and his missing license plate."

Good catch.

I like many others still think McVeigh had help.

I was surprised though, that the CIA or the FBI wasn't able to get him to talk.

The only other senario that I can think of is that they did get him to talk, but what he said was damaging to the Clinton administration and covered up like so many other events.


85 posted on 06/05/2006 4:22:39 AM PDT by babydoll22 (The facts ma'am, just the facts. I don't want to know what you feel!)
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To: caveat emptor

'seized evidence such as a 9-mm Luger handgun, military fatigues and two-way radios.'

I guess Sgt. Preston of the Yukon will be knocking on my door next when he finds out I have Scotts Turf Builder too.


86 posted on 06/05/2006 4:51:36 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: AFPhys

According to that article, the reason they were seeking to build a bomb and blow up buildings was beacause they were angry at muslims being profiled as liable to build bombs and blow up buildings.


87 posted on 06/05/2006 5:24:27 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: F15Eagle
"Fahim Ahmad, 21; Jahmaal James, 23; Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19; and Steven Vikash Chand, 25, all of Toronto; Zakaria Amara, 20; Asad Ansari, 21; Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30; Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21; Saad Khalid, 19; and Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, all of Mississauga; and Mohammed Dirie, 22 and Yasin Abdi Mohamed, 24"

Wait just a minute here... This is a roster of employees at the Home Depot in Fairfax, Virginia!

88 posted on 06/05/2006 5:35:26 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Publius6961
"I can honestly say that up until the names were listed, I had assumed normal Canadians were involved."

We hired a Canadian nurse who had a Pakistan ancestry. Turned out that she was in America with a green card, requested 0 income tax withheld. She had given us a fake address and was requesting all mail to go to a friends address which is different from where she lived. And she refused health insurance saying that if they had anything serious they would go home to Canada and take advantage of the free insurance there.

I flagged her to the IRS. And sooned fired her, because she was reporting a ton of overtime but didn't have the productivity to go with it. After I fired her, coworkers quoted her as saying "Everybody hates America".

89 posted on 06/05/2006 6:26:10 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BIGLOOK
Suppose we accept a 300#/acre nitrogen application for row crops, 6000# of ammonium nitrate is required for 6 acres.

Wouldn't that be 20 acres?

90 posted on 06/05/2006 6:48:48 AM PDT by Florida_Freeper
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To: canuck_conservative

So, the mainstream media is now slandering the Mounties? I've seen it all now.


91 posted on 06/05/2006 7:16:11 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Call me when the perps arrive at Gitmo...


93 posted on 06/05/2006 7:48:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Hatteras

Yell out any one of those first names at your nearest gas station/convenience store... and the guy behind the counter will answer.


94 posted on 06/05/2006 7:52:36 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: DannyTN

If more people are as vigilant as you I feel optimistic about this war. Good going!

(She didn't file an anti-discrimination suit?)


95 posted on 06/05/2006 8:23:05 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Westlander
'seized evidence such as a 9-mm Luger handgun, military fatigues and two-way radios.' I guess Sgt. Preston of the Yukon will be knocking on my door next when he finds out I have Scotts Turf Builder too.

Don't worry about it. Just don't stock up on an extra ton or so of ammonium nitrate fertilizer.
96 posted on 06/05/2006 8:45:44 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: Threepwood
The RCMP is famous for its stings. My bet is that CSIS found these guys on the internet,

And the Toronto Star, Globe and Mail, etc. are betting that the mounties did a sting. Ping me when you come up with something other than speculation shows up on a possible sting.
97 posted on 06/05/2006 8:52:21 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: caveat emptor

Huh? I'm just commenting on an event, based on my years and years of peripheral contact with the Mounted Police. I'm sorry that the Commissioner and the Soliciter General didn't send me a dossier to share with the internet.


98 posted on 06/05/2006 9:04:32 AM PDT by Threepwood
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To: babydoll22
I was surprised though, that the CIA or the FBI wasn't able to get him to talk.I suspect not wanting to know too much was involved. That can really determine the type of questions asked.

That having been said, in the same manner as anti-terrorism agents setup some of the Toronto terrorists to be picked up by border control agents on narcotics suspicions, undercover agents commonly setup bad guys to be picked up by other LEO's by breaking a tail light, etc. I have been suspicious from the outset that the Fed's penetrated McVeighs group and were setting up a sting but bungled it. Whoever removed his license tag probably thought what would be happening that day wasn't the real thing but a dress rehersal.

99 posted on 06/05/2006 9:23:12 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Flint

"However, if you came to my house you would find some Ammonium Nitrate, two 9mm hand guns and a whole lot of other firearms and ammunition to feed them. A set of two way walky-talkies, that my sons use to play with and some other highly suspect items, like military uniforms going back to the early 1960's. We need to have something else to go on besides normal everyday stuff that most people have around the house."

You've just given a Brit here a good chuckle. The idea of what constitutes 'normal everyday stuff' definatley does not bridge the atlantic!

(We have a knife amnesty in my town at the moment!)


100 posted on 06/05/2006 11:24:12 AM PDT by Brit_Guy
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