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Terror Strike Toronto ( Aborted! )
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| 06-04-06
| The Heavy Equipment Guy
Posted on 06/04/2006 4:04:47 AM PDT by backhoe
There is MUCH more information in this story by reporter MICHELLE SHEPHARD by 1AM this morning. It seems she had foreknowledge of this bust and kept her mouth shut.
A TERROR RING THAT PLANNED OKLAHOMA-CITY-STYLE BOMBINGS has reportedly been
smashed in Canada. Interestingly, it seems that Internet monitoring played a key role.
UPDATE:
Brendan Loy has more, plus a complaint about Reuters' coverage, which leaves out a lot of details about the Islamist character of the defendants:
Terror Cell Apprehended
(bumped to top with updates)
Toronto Sun;
Any guesses at how long it takes the usual suspects to a) downplay the story as much ado about nothing, and/or b) weave it into a conspiracy to turn Canada into Shrubhitler's police state. Update; It's already begun.
A news conference will begin shortly.You can listen live at 650 CKOM.
Stephen Taylor has lots more, including a chilling poem from one of the suspects.
Stop The ACLU on the internet angle and possible affiliations with suspects in the US.
Pajamas Media has a big roundup as well. Comments (128)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011653.php
Terror raids in Canada, too
Those arrested are "Muslims, but not Arabs." It's nice to see the mainstream media actually making this elementary distinction, which might begin to dispel the calumny that the anti-jihad resistance is "racism."Comments (45)
http://www.stevejanke.com/archives/179717.php
From CTV: Comments (30)
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/posting.php?mode=quote&p=721308
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The National Post also took a look at the Georgia-Canada connection in Terrorisms new guard, published first on May 4, 2006.
Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, 19, and Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, are accused of traveling [sic] to Canada last March for terrorism-related planning and co-ordination with local radicals.
Search: Ehsanul Islam Sadequee--http://tinyurl.com/g7ug9
You remember Sadaquee..............I wrote of him him here back in April;
Search: Syed Haris Ahmed--http://tinyurl.com/zkmhy
and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, both U.S. citizens who grew up in the Atlanta area, met with at least three other targets of ongoing FBI terrorism investigations during a trip to Canada in March 2005... More hereThe NYT has some interesting info tucked away in its report about the arrests. Apparently the Toronto jihadis may have been in contact with some Georgia jihadis:
http://tinyurl.com/zbsz3
This, of course, is not the first time Sadequee and Ahmed have appeared in news items at Jihad Watch: ttp://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011656.php Comments (38) "They include men of Somali, Egyptian, Jamaican, and Trinidadian origin. All are residents of Canada and for the most part all are Canadian citizens, police said."
"Hopefully some taboo topics will be opened. Like open borders. Immigration by Muslims etc., and not a second too late."
As Dan Riehl notes, there is a possible link between the Canadian arrests and two recently indicted jihadi suspects in Georgia. Blogged about them last month:
ACCUSED JIHADISTS IN GEORGIA
AJC reports (hat tip: Buzz Blog):
For a good overview, I highly recommend Daniel Stoffman's "Who Gets In: What's wrong with Canada's immigration program - and how to fix it"--Canada's equivalent of Invasion.
A 21-year-old Georgia Tech student and another man traveled to Canada to meet with Islamic extremists to discuss "strategic locations in the United States suitable for a terrorist strike," according to an affidavit made public Friday. More here
An FBI agent's affidavit accused Sadequee and Ahmed, a 21-year-old Georgia Tech student, of meeting with at least three other targets of the FBI probe during a trip to Canada in March 2005. The men allegedly discussed attacks against oil refineries and military bases and planned to travel to Pakistan to get military training at a terrorist camp. More here
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http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/06/massive_terror_.html
It appears that there is a global web of terror tied to this most recent bust of 17 Canadian Muslims and the "dirty bomb" bust in London. The weaponry found in these raids are WMD, weapons of mass destruction. Big time. Before these recent raids,there were at least 18 related arrests already taken place in Canada, the United States, Britain, Bosnia, Denmark, Sweden, and Bangladesh. Hat tip Pastorius and LGF; Canadian National Post: INTERNET CO-OPTED BY TERROR GROUPS
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/06/canada_terror_b.html
UPDATED: Massive terror attacks, globally: More here hat tip Norman...A group of [Muslims - the word the media dares not speak - Atlas] Names of the 12 adults charged with terrorism-related offenses Canadian residents inspired by al Qaeda and arrested for "terrorism related offenses" had amassed enough explosives to build huge bombs and were planning to blow up targets in Ontario, Canada's political and economic power center, police said on Saturday. More here
UPDATE: Have you guys been reading CUANAS this past week. Pastorius nailed it, connected the proverbial dots...Clearly, something massive is in the works, spanning at least three major Western countries.
UPDATE: POLICE IN LONDON HUNTING CHEMICAL SUICIDE VEST:(hat tip Turn)
Man shot in dawn raid on suspected weapons factory Officers believe World Cup fans could be target of attack
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=de3f8e90-982a-47af-8e5e-a1366fd5d6cc&k=46849
Alleged Canadian terror plot has worldwide links--
The six-month RCMP investigation, called Project OSage, is one of several overlapping probes that include an FBI case called Operation Northern Exposure and a British probe known as Operation Mazhar. There is preliminary indication that some of the Canadian subjects may have had limited contact with the two people recently arrested from Georgia, Special Agent Richard Kolko, the FBI spokesman, said in an e-mail to the National Post.
Canadian terror cell backgrounder (ctv background)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642895/posts?page=15#15
Canadians Used Internet Monitoring To Stop Terror Attack
The Canadian intelligence service monitored Internet communications to identify and track the homegrown jihadists rounded up in last night's raids, according to the Toronto Star. The investigation began two years ago when agents cracked passwords and gathered communications from the group:UPDATE: ThreatsWatch notes this development as well, and reminds Americans that the CSIS is not unlike the NSA. Comments (9)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011652.php
Background on UK raids
This is why British officials carried out such a large-scale raid. "Nervous informant who gave details of new terrorist device," from the TimesOnline, with thanks to Sr. Soph: More on the chemical suicide vest they're looking for here.
There are some thoughts on chemical and biological weapons here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5351&search=dunn
The writer suggests that these weapons may not be as effective as people fear-- Comments (27)
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/007124.php
Broad Strata?
The politically-correct whitewash of the Canadian terror cell has already begun in earnest. The Globe & Mail reports that the RCMP has decided to emphasize the fact that the suspected terrorists came from a "broad strata" of Canadian society:...The majority sported the traditional Muslim male beard. [emphasis mine -- CE]
EUPHEMISM O' THE DAY: "BROAD STRATA"
Oh, dear Lord. A jihadist plot, possibly of global scale, possibly imminent, unravels in Canada...and what do law enforcement officials do? Try to whitewash the obvious jihadi profile from the public's mind.At the press briefing held by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police today, the suspects who appeared in court--all sporting traditional Muslim male beards and requesting Korans--were described as coming from a "broad strata" of society. (Hat tip: reader Ed)
Broad strata.
Yes, the same "broad strata" from which the 9/11 hijackers, 1993 World Trade Center bombers, USS Cole bombers, etc., etc., etc., came.
Allah looks at the "broad strata" of jihadi suspects netted in Toronto who are neither poor nor uneducated nor disenfranchised.
Canada's lax, terror-friendly immigration and asylum policies (and ours) will once again come under scrutiny. More info in Invasion and here; related column here and some blog posts of note. Another column from April 2003:
Thisught to be good for at least one evening of internet sleuthing:
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/004074.html
Toronto Terror Cell - Who Are Dirie and Mohamed?
Are they the same people?
Reader "Kelly Ann" gets extra marks for sharp eyes; CNN - August 13, 2005; Ali Dirie, 22, and Yasin Mohamed, 23 -- both Canadians from the Toronto area -- face weapons-related charges and are in police custody in Niagara Falls, Ontario...Comments (26) "Looks like the Toronto Star has done their homework. They've linked 'em." ttp://tinyurl.com/oeyng
"I have been watching CTV and CBC news and have to say I am bloody angry. Why can't these folks call it like it is?Not alleged, not ethno-neutral, just bloody terrorists would could have and would have killed a lot of people. Every network should carry the terrorists pictures and the pictures of these guys supporters. Stop beating around the bush and tell like it really is."
The authorities have been tight-lipped about the potential targets of the 17 terrorist suspects arrested in Toronto: The American affidavit provides suggests government and economic targets: With three tonnes of fertilizer, these guys could make a lot of smaller bombs. Comments (6)
ROGER SIMON: "I can't say I'm surprised it took eight paragraphs before the New York Times deigned to tell us what might be behind (have motivated) the arrest of 17 people in Ontario over the last couple of days. In fact it takes them six paragraphs before they even name any names. And of course they hasten first to make sure we know most of these men (not yet identified as Islamists) are "young people," shades of the French linguistic obsession with les jeunes, lest we might think them representative of a hostile ideology. This political bowdlerization is accomplished in paragraph four. Think for a moment how the Times would have constructed an article (has constructed many articles) about the malfeasance of US servicemen. They sure wouldn't bury the lede."
UPDATE: The sounds of silence.
ANOTHER UPDATE: More on the Canadian effort here.
And more on the post-bust spin here. There's also lots more over at Canadian newsblog Newsbeat1.
Actually,..... http://www.andrewcoyne.com/
A lot of interesting information in Coyne's blog...
The National Post says the Canadian terror arrests are linked to investigations in at least six other countries: Alleged Ontario terror plot has worldwide links. (Hat tip: Allahpundit.) link: 158 comments
To: MHGinTN; backhoe; Cindy
Backoe if you would could you include in your links this link..
Abu Musab al-Suri and the Third Generation of Salafi-Jihadists
Al- Suri talked of a Third Generation jihadists taking up the fight in this post 9/11 world...I think this is who inspired these Canadian jihadists...
Cindy this might be of interest to you and your group..
45 posted on
06/03/2006 7:59:50 PM EDT by
Dog
Earlier Info:
A Canadian Jihad is apparently underway:
Never mind foreign terrorists, why is Canada growing its own extremists? link: 56 comments
Canada's spy service admitted this week it couldn't track down many domestic terror suspects and warned the country faced an increasing threat from "home-grown terrorists" who had been assimilated into society.
Canadian Jihadis Named
Judeoscope.ca has the names of the 12 adults charged with terrorism-related offenses in Ontario.
Arrested and charged with offences under the Criminal Code of Canada are:
1. Fahim Ahmad, 21, of Robinstone Drive, Toronto, Ontario;
2. Zakaria Amara, 20, of Periwinkle Crescent, Mississauga, Ontario;
3. Asad Ansari, 21, of Rosehurst Drive, Mississauga, Ontario;
4. Shareef Abdelhaleen, 30, of Lowville Heights, Mississauga, Ontario;
5. Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, of Montevideo Road, Mississauga, Ontario;
6. Mohammed Dirie, 22, Kingston, Ontario;
7. Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24, Kingston, Ontario;
8. Jahmaal James, 23, of Trudelle Street, Toronto, Ontario;
9. Amin Mohamed Durrani, 19, of Stonehill Court, Toronto, Ontario;
10. Steven Vikash Chand alias Abdul Shakur, 25, of Treverton Drive, Toronto, Ontario;
11. Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, 21, of Robin Drive, Mississauga, Ontario;
12. Saad Khalid, 19, of Eclipse Avenue, Mississauga, Ontario.
| link: 92 comments
British police are frantically searching for a chemical suicide bomb vest. (Hat tip: LGF readers.) link: 47 comments
Possibly related: "this really makes that CUPE statement look even more ridiculous now. After all, these terrorists most likely applauded and supported the CUPE move, and probably even felt emboldened by it. "
Canada terror suspects may have had US contacts --Syed Haris Ahmed, 21, of Atlanta, Georgia, Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, 19...Sadequee and Ahmed traveled to Canada on March 13, 2005, to meet with Islamic extremists, according to a U.S. Justice Department statement.
Of the seventeen, 12 have been publicly identified, while five are apparently underage. The identified suspects are: ( uh, Muslims... ) read link:
Europe faces a similar situation, and now the question will be whether the US has something brewing in its mosques as well. We have already uncovered the Lodi mosque and the father-son jihadi team there. Canada has similar cultural flexibility as the US; to think that this could metastasize there but not here would be foolish indeed.
Keep an eye on Stephen Taylor's blog for further updates, and I'm certain Steve Janke will also be all over this.
UPDATE: As will Kate at Small Dead Animals. Confederate Yankee wonders whether a 'domestic spying" effort helped root these terrorists out.
Contrary to the official explanation, there is a strong indication that the explosive substance TATP (triacetone triperoxide), also known as the Mother of Satan and a homemade and very unstable explosive was used in this blast. This is the same substance used by "the despondent" Joel Henry Hinnrichs outside of the Oklahoma University stadium on October 1, 2005 - a blast that was ruled as a "suicide" and unrelated to terrorism.
If people don't think we have illegal crossings from Canada as well, they are SORELY mistaken. And thus far, that border has been the choice of the ROP.
FBI's Mueller: Hezbollah Busted in Mexican Smuggling Operation
During the Q&A with reporters, Myrick gave as a reason for proposing the bill the recent capture of three al Qaeda terrorists at the U.S.-Mexico border.
Illegals from terrorist nations are crossing the border into Arizona.
TOPICS: Canada; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Georgia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedacanada; canada; globaljihad; gwot; jihad; muslim; rop; toronto; torontocell; trop; wot
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Not to miss ping!
Thanks for posting this, backhoe!
61
posted on
06/04/2006 7:16:52 AM PDT
by
jan in Colorado
(Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum (If you wish for peace, prepare for war.))
To: Former Proud Canadian; backhoe
Here's a thought for you: the type of explosive in the Horton bomb/fire is very hard to cook if not under an industrial grade exhaust hood; was the perp cooking up his explosives after hours at Hortons?
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posted on
06/04/2006 7:17:42 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
The story is: he entered the bathroom and soon after it exploded. Whatever he used, he had with him when he got there.
63
posted on
06/04/2006 7:23:01 AM PDT
by
Former Proud Canadian
(How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
To: johnny7
Hmmm...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhenium
"Rhenium is a chemical element in the periodic table that has the symbol Re and atomic number 75. A silvery-white, rare, heavy, polyvalent transition metal, rhenium resembles manganese chemically and is used in some alloys. Rhenium is obtained as a by-product of molybdenum refinement and rhenium-molybdenum alloys are superconducting. This was the last naturally-occurring element to be discovered and belongs to the ten most expensive metals on Earth."
Almost had me hunting a 45 year old copy of "Elements of Chemistry," you did.
64
posted on
06/04/2006 7:26:39 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: jan in Colorado
Appreciate the pings- thank you.
65
posted on
06/04/2006 7:27:31 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: MHGinTN; Former Proud Canadian
Here's a thought for you: the type of explosive in the Horton bomb/fire is very hard to cook if not under an industrial grade exhaust hood; was the perp cooking up his explosives after hours at Hortons? The story is: he entered the bathroom and soon after it exploded. Whatever he used, he had with him when he got there.
Hmmm... food for thought- some of the restrooms we have in the states have exhaust systems that sound like they are sucking up half the air in the world- he might have thought that would minimize the chances of the smell giving him away.
66
posted on
06/04/2006 7:32:19 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: Former Proud Canadian
And that's the key, 'the story is'. I wonder, would a floor plan of the Horton's and the time of detonation be important to sorting this out? It has happened here in the deep South that a 'fry station' under an industrial hood was used to cook up Meth during 'store closed' hours. Some explosives have poisonous gases as by products during 'cooking'.
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posted on
06/04/2006 7:32:24 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
cook up Meth during 'store closed' hoursUnless that one is some weird exception, Tim Horton's are open 24/7.
68
posted on
06/04/2006 7:38:08 AM PDT
by
kanawa
To: kanawa; backhoe
Not familiar with Horton's here in the South. Thanks for the info. Regarding the explosive, From Wikipedia: "It is widely used by people who want to make homemade explosives because of its low cost and ease of manufacture. They often have no idea of its extreme sensitivity, or they make it anyway solely because it's cheap and can be made in a refrigerator. There is a common myth that the only "safe" acetone peroxide is the trimer, made at low temperatures: "If one is making tricycloacetone peroxide, the temperature must be less than 10 °C at all times, otherwise the product formed will be dicycloacetone peroxide, which is so unstable and sensitive that it has no uses in the field of explosives: dicycloacetone peroxide has been known to explode spontaneously." In reality, the acid-catalyzed peroxidation of acetone always produces a mixture of dimeric and trimeric forms. The trimer is the more stable form, but not much more so than the dimer. All forms of acetone peroxide are very sensitive to initiation. Organic peroxides are sensitive, dangerous explosives. The military does not use them because there are many much better alternatives. Even for people who synthesize homemade explosives, there are many far safer alternatives. Even nitroglycerin is not nearly as sensitive as acetone peroxide."
"It is also a hazardous by-product of isosafrole oxidation in acetone, a step in illicit synthesis of MDMA."
Was the major of one of the GT students 'chemistry'?
69
posted on
06/04/2006 7:45:23 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
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To: backhoe
Bump for later.Got to go to church.
70
posted on
06/04/2006 7:45:31 AM PDT
by
painter
(We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
To: MHGinTN
MG, I respect your curiosity, but you are barking up the wrong tree, I think. Let's see if we can find this guy's identity. It would explain a lot.
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posted on
06/04/2006 7:46:12 AM PDT
by
Former Proud Canadian
(How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
To: backhoe
Can someone please tell me why our government refuses to order drugs that will safeguard our citizens against a nuclear or dirty bomb attack? Health and Human Services wants to order up to 100,000 doses of anti Radiation drugs. Anthony Fauci is the most corrupt official in DC to come up with that amount. This plot in Canada and the one in England point out that we must be prepared for these large scale events. We aren't even close to be prepared. Washington sleeps just like it did before 9-11.
72
posted on
06/04/2006 7:47:08 AM PDT
by
cmiller623
(Mayor Antonio Villa....or never mind. Los Angeles is doomed!)
To: Peach; AliVeritas; saveliberty; jveritas; Howlin; Mo1; backhoe
Excellent roundup by backhoe...
73
posted on
06/04/2006 7:47:29 AM PDT
by
SE Mom
(God Bless those who serve.)
To: SE Mom
Thanks for the pings- here's a little more:
http://www.yourish.com/2006/06/03/1369
Do you think its time we stopped discussing root causes? Because the last time I checked, Canada was an obnoxiously multiculti, socialist-oriented nation replete with national healthcare and hate speech laws.
That didnt seem to stop them from having several cells of homegrown terrorists try to blow up Canadian civilians. Why? Gee. Every one of the arrestees was Muslim. Can you think of a reason?
...
So lets check the tally. Jihadis in London arrested yesterday. Jihadis in Canada arrested today.
Does anyone doubt that we are truly in a global terrorist war? WWIV has been ongoing since before 9/11, but 9/11 was the day it was announced to the world.
We have a long way to go. And the Cindy Sheehans of the world are not helping.
Update: Its a worldwide terrorist conspiracy. No joke. Click the link. There are ties to terrorism arrests in United States, Britain, Bosnia, Denmark, Sweden, and Bangladesh.
Say hello to WWIV.
74
posted on
06/04/2006 7:55:57 AM PDT
by
backhoe
To: MHGinTN
Here's one that seems to be missing - From http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060604/news_1n4canada.html
"It was not clear whether the group ever had possession of the chemicals. When a police spokeswoman, Cpl. Michele Paradis, was asked whether the group had the three tons of chemicals in their possession and if the police had seized it, she replied: That's difficult to answer. They made arrangements to have it delivered and they took delivery.
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posted on
06/04/2006 7:57:49 AM PDT
by
RS
("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
To: Former Proud Canadian
Yes, it appears I got off on a tangent. BUT, there are reports of terrorists funding their groups by the sale of illicit drugs, such as MDMA (ecstasy).
76
posted on
06/04/2006 7:58:00 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
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To: RS; backhoe
Good catch. That much fertilizer takes up a fair amount of space and the mixing process requires a larger area of operations in order to bring the fuel and fert together for mixing. Perhaps the bags or bulk of fert were delivered to a farm or large storage facility. I'm wondering if some transportation arrangements were made that could have allowed explosives to enter the USA and be 'trucked' to parts unknown!
77
posted on
06/04/2006 8:03:38 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: RS
78
posted on
06/04/2006 8:16:59 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
"Perhaps the bags or bulk of fert were delivered to a farm or large storage facility. I'm wondering if some transportation arrangements were made that could have allowed explosives to enter the USA and be 'trucked' to parts unknown!"
Kind of far-fetched to think that the cops did a great job chasing them down for months, then somehow were incompetant enough let them get ahold of a few truckloads of the final piece, and don't know what happened to it.
That "hard to answer" answer seems like she didn't want to stomp on the bosses toes when in his press conference he made it seem as if these guys were set to light the fuses.
79
posted on
06/04/2006 8:20:07 AM PDT
by
RS
("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
To: backhoe
Great work, as usual, Backhoe. Thanks
For you Georgians, re: Homeland Security $$$$$.
Our pastor (from Georgia) claims that Schumer and other NY democrats should be thrilled that all that money will be used to protect CNN headquarters in Atlanta.
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