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The Swift Boat Veterans...yet another Rovian plot

Any similarity between this editorial and swill from the DUmp is entirely probable...

1 posted on 06/02/2006 10:00:31 PM PDT by Phil Harmonic
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Kerry never signed the form to release all his military records though, did he?

He's still hiding after all these years, just being loud about it.


2 posted on 06/02/2006 10:02:06 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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'Eventually, and bizarrely, people were arguing about whether Kerry took his boat into Cambodia on one occasion. To us the story sounded quite plausible (a number of Americans made clandestine trips into Cambodia during that time), as well as irrelevant to the campaign.

No candidate should have to endure what Kerry got. Some wanted him to sue, but he is a public figure, which complicates matters, and any lawsuit would have taken too long to work its way through the courts, in the meantime highlighting the accusations.

But now Kerry and a group of supporters are seeking to disprove them. Researchers are poring over naval records; Kerry has asked that his entire Navy file be released, and other veterans are giving their recollections.

We're glad Kerry is undertaking this effort. So many of the accusations hurled at him were demonstrably false on their face. It's time the record were set straight. '


3 posted on 06/02/2006 10:06:58 PM PDT by bitt
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We're glad Kerry is undertaking this effort.

And so am I! That idiot Kerry is going to suck all the air out of the dems' room - they'll throw him under the bus before too long.

4 posted on 06/02/2006 10:07:59 PM PDT by hsalaw
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I hope Kerry digs all this up again. I'd love to see him go another round with the Swift Vets.

Kerry versus the Vets, Clinton versus Gore, Gore versus rationality, this is adding up to be one of the greatest political seasons of all time.


6 posted on 06/02/2006 10:16:28 PM PDT by marron
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Kerry really needs to run for president of France in the next election.

He's a total discrace to this country as an american politician.


7 posted on 06/02/2006 10:17:15 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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John Kerry would be a cheap, lying whore with or without Vietnam. He even lied for many years about being Irish.


8 posted on 06/02/2006 10:17:24 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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This exact same 'story' ran in the NYT about a week ago. Kerry is dragging reporters and presumably others into his office to meet the 'researchers' he hired to create his new legacy sans Swifties. He is working the editorial circuit in friendly venues (which isn't an option for GOPers who have no friendly editorial boards for the most part). Kerry did the same thing a year before he ran last time by trying to personally meet with every reporter he could find and 'prove' to them that he did actually have friends and was a 'likeable' guy. It was perverse in its obscene naked ambition to convince people that he was not who they already knew he was (an elitist whose only resume item was 4 months in Nam and being Dukakis' Lt Gov.)


9 posted on 06/02/2006 10:21:47 PM PDT by bpjam (If we take 12M Mexicans, they have to take Kennedy & McCain!)
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The only thing admirable about Kerry is his bank account. Other then that he's just another ugly, social moron with an expensive education trying to get all the attention all the time. The Dems need to oust him, but that might effect their "winning streak" so if there are any Dems out there lurking...please do not take my advise. LOL.
10 posted on 06/02/2006 10:33:56 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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I cant believe all the disaffected people on this site want all these wacky libs to win... :\


11 posted on 06/02/2006 10:34:37 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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You might want to write an editorial to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. They obviously haven't been to your website:

WinterSoldier.com

Regards,

TS

14 posted on 06/02/2006 10:41:48 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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In the following months, Kerry was accused of shooting himself to get the purple hearts; of having political plans even at that young age that fueled a cynical plot to get medals any way he could;

Well actually, it is true he had "political plans even at that young age". That is the only reason he went into the Navy and the only reason he went into the swifties. None of it had anything to do with duty or honor.

It was purely designed to give his self maximum chance by following in the footsteps of John Kennedy.

This from a puff piece from the Boston Glob at Click here

Upon his graduation in 1966, Kerry was given the honor of delivering the class oration. Many at Yale noticed that this young man, on his way to becoming a commissioned officer in Vietnam, was critical of the war -- and the use of American military might against communist regimes.

``What was an excess of isolationism has become an excess of interventionism,'' Kerry said in the oration. ``And this Vietnam War has found our policy makers forcing Americans into a strange corner . . . that if victory escapes us, it would not be the fault of those who lead, but of the doubters who stabbed them in the back -- notions all too typical of an America that had to find Americans to blame for the takeover in China by the communists, and then for the takeover in Cuba.''

Then, in a sentence that harkened back to the Nazi aggression that his mother had fled, he said: ``The United States must, I think, bring itself to understand that the policy of intervention that was right for Western Europe does not and cannot find the same application to the rest of the world.''

In what may have been an allusion to his own plans to enlist, Kerry added: ``We have not really lost the desire to serve. We question the very roots of what we are serving.''

Kerry's critique of American policy stood out at a time when there were few protests, and most of the public assumed Vietnam would be a winnable war, producing a fresh crop of military heroes. The speech also reflected an evolution in Kerry's own thinking about the war.


Notice Kerry was anti-war even before joining up to go to the Navy. He then as now takes a stand on two sides of an issue and call them both his own.

Notice as well that he dated Jacqueline Kennedy's half-sister and once sailed Narragansett Bay with JFK at the helm.

Maybe JFK gave the boy pointers about how to achieve success in politics. How much easier would it be for a politician to achieve his goal being a veteran vs not. How some medals would allow him to write his own ticket and it didn't matter how he got them. All he had to do was to prove he had them.

To state the obvious and calling that little piece of fact dissing Kerry is major stupid. If the dude was a bum back then as now, why would that little fact bother him?

Remember as an ex Lt. in the Navy he takes it upon his self to hold talks with the Vietcong as a private citizen. I can only wonder what exactly gave him the right to do so and what was it, in his position in life at the time was he hoping to accomplish?

No, if there is heat from his activities in his past, I expect him to have the backbone to accept that heat without reservations.
15 posted on 06/02/2006 10:47:32 PM PDT by Tut
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HAS HE SIGNED THE FORM 180 TO RELEASE HIS RECORDS TO THE PUBLIC?

No, he released selected info to a couple of selected writers, to "enhance" his story.

END OF STORY. John Forbes Kerry-Heinz is a WEASEL!

29 posted on 06/02/2006 11:08:59 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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White House political strategist Karl Rove went straight at Kerry's most significant strength: his war record.

Hack, cough, barf .... barf again.

If sKerry's 4 months are his strength, my 18 months should have me rolling in wealth.

I do believe he fits into what Tammy Bruce calls Malignant Narcissim.

39 posted on 06/02/2006 11:21:35 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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"Although they had little bearing on Kerry's qualifications to be president"...

"Kerry's most significant strength: his war record".....

"irrelevant to the campaign"....

Well which is it? irrelevant? relevant? irrelevant? Seems the writer cant even make up his mind. In my view, Kerry made his war record relevant, and thus open to question, by presenting it as basically his only qualification to be president.
49 posted on 06/03/2006 12:48:58 AM PDT by D1X1E (*AMERICA* Love It Or Leave It (I volunteer to drive one of the buses))
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White House political strategist Karl Rove went straight at Kerry's most significant strength: his war record.

The real question is how did Rove trick Kerry into wearing that ridiculous clean-room 'bunny' costume? :-)

54 posted on 06/03/2006 1:17:30 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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He deserves this opportunity to set the public record straight.

ROFLMOL...I guess that whole presidential campaign time wasn't much of an opportunity to address his confession of being a war criminal and a liar.

57 posted on 06/03/2006 1:21:45 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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>"of having political plans even at that young age that fueled a cynical plot">

Well, he did shoot more videos of himself, than Viet Congs!

He's Got A Plan

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59 posted on 06/03/2006 3:04:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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… Kerry's most significant strength: his war record.

If his war record was his most significant strength, Hanoi John must be pretty weak.
60 posted on 06/03/2006 3:18:06 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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64 posted on 06/03/2006 4:03:13 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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Looks like it's time for another Swift Boat smackdown. Seems funny to me he would have waited this long to 'set the record straight'. Must have taken Mary Mapes and Lucy Ramirez all this time to perform their magic...

Cheers - Dinah


65 posted on 06/03/2006 4:17:36 AM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamic Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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