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Snow: Flow of illegals not an 'invasion'
WorldNetDaily ^ | June 2, 2006 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 06/02/2006 4:51:13 PM PDT by AmericaOne

Snow: Flow of illegals not an 'invasion'

Spokesman says Article 4 of Constitution doesn't apply to border issue

Saying Mexico is "not the enemy," presidential press secretary Tony Snow today rejected the characterization of the constant flow of illegal aliens over the U.S. border as an "invasion."

At today's White House press briefing, WND asked the spokesman: "Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution says, 'The United States shall guarantee to every state in the Union a republican form of government and shall protect each of them from foreign invasion.' My question is, does the president believe this foreign invasion means only armed invasion, or doesn't this also mean the invasion of millions of illegal immigrants?"

Responded Snow: "I think what you are doing is you're attaching a martial connotation to something that does not have martial consequences. …

"What the president has said – if you were talking about an invasion, he's made it clear that Mexico is not the enemy."

WND also asked Snow about a lawsuit by war veteran Sgt. Peter Damon, who lost both of his arms in Iraq. Damon has sued Michael Moore for using clips without his permission in "Fahrenheit 9/11" to give the false impression that he opposed the war.

"I didn't lose my arms over there to come back and be used as ammunition against my commander in chief," Damon was quoted as saying.

"If he is asked," queried WND, "will this commander in chief be willing to testify in court on behalf of this double amputee sergeant?"

Snow called it a "hypothetical question"

"Please don't put me in the position of trying to answer to a lawsuit between somebody who served his country and Michael Moore," Snow said. "We'll let them deal with it."


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To: eeevil conservative

no


261 posted on 06/03/2006 1:44:30 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

well- they are truly what makes the world go round..... but they also bend you til it hurts.....

The other day- I was upset with my son... he screwed up...(which he seldom does..) but he did it for 4 days in a row...

so I refused to take him to football practice.. this means the world to him..well- the alarm clock went off..

every fiber- every cell in my body wanted to get him up and take him....

All morning I was a wreck..

when he woke up- I was headed to work- I said, "I am mad at you." I told him how much it hurt me inside, to not take him to practice...

I said, "I WANT to supprt you! I want to GIVE you the world! Your every dream! I am so angry with you that you make me discipline you! You MAKE me take things from you. I know you may think this is a thrill for me, but it actually hurts me!"

He grabbed me- sobbed- and said, "I am so sorry. I know you love me, I know you want to support me mom. Thanks. I won't let US down again."

I about flipped! This is a 17 year old- football, track, lead singer in a band kid...

Kids are great. They just make you feel every extreme in a matter of seconds...


262 posted on 06/03/2006 1:56:25 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (I am your worst nightmare. I am not a racist, terrorist, or nativist. I am an AMERICAN, & I Vote!)
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To: eeevil conservative

hehe! sometimes they "get it" :)


263 posted on 06/03/2006 2:02:00 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: eeevil conservative

oh i just looked at your homepage, those are some cute little ones! :)


264 posted on 06/03/2006 2:08:54 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: AmericaOne

Come on Snow, be honest. Mexico has become an enemy nation. And yes, this country is being invaded. We are not talking about a dozen illegal aliens (albeit they could also do serious damage) but millions. That is an invasion.


265 posted on 06/03/2006 4:48:09 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: AmericaOne

Luke Skywalker has gone over to the Dark Side.


266 posted on 06/03/2006 4:59:13 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: puppypusher

Wonder how many illegals News Corporation (FOX) employees in all of it's subsidiaries, including the LA based ones? Tony was not the only voice on Fox to advocate amnesty. O'Reilly, even the mainstream news and talking heads like Krystal, Barnes etc all spout the party line. FOX = CNN with revised agenda.


267 posted on 06/03/2006 5:04:51 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: AmericaOne

Tony, what's in the water you're drinking? I'll bet there is 1 million illegals in Long Island. In addition to landscaping they're also doing electrical, plumbing, painting, carpentry etc. driving down wages for Americans. "We want OUR country back!"


268 posted on 06/03/2006 5:07:48 AM PDT by KenmcG414 (wHAT'ST)
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To: Vision; All

"If we go by your definition, I say it becomes an invasion when the invitees become hostile, as millions of them have."

I don't think that we've even begun to see what these people are capable of. They've already made it clear that aren't taking NO for an answer, are no longer afraid and they've got nothing to lose. Their 'La Revolucion' is, imo, inevitable.

*Disturbing Video* from LA Minutemen/Ted Hayes march:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xTD1QNVZsk


Aztlan Video:
http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?page_id=810


269 posted on 06/03/2006 5:14:59 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: AmericaOne
Saying Mexico is "not the enemy," presidential press secretary Tony Snow today rejected the characterization of the constant flow of illegal aliens over the U.S. border as an "invasion."

Tony Snow is a schmuck.

270 posted on 06/03/2006 5:18:22 AM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: Jorge
If we go by your definition, I say it becomes an invasion when the invitees become hostile, as millions of them have.


Oh, please. What a drama queen.


Oh yea, reconquesta is only a small group of illegal aliens. La Raza is only a small group of illegal aliens. The huge rise in crime committed by illegals is from a small group of illegal aliens. The 1/3 of all federal prisoners who are illegal aliens are only a small group of illegal aliens. American medical systems on the brink of collapse are from a small group of illegal aliens. All the new disease popping up is only from a small group of illegal aliens. I guess all those millions of hostile illegals trying to shut down our economy(with no effect mind you) with their ignorant marches were just from a small group of illegal aliens?

You're a joke "Jorge" and your time is up.
271 posted on 06/03/2006 5:22:45 AM PDT by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: gondramB
That is only a small portion of what is happening - the vast majority are economic refugees

Please post your propaganda somewhere else and see post 271.
272 posted on 06/03/2006 5:26:17 AM PDT by Vision ("There are no limits to growth because there are no limits of human intelligence" Ronald Reagan)
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To: AmericaOne

Brought to you by the same people who say it's not amnesty too.


273 posted on 06/03/2006 5:32:06 AM PDT by toddlintown
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To: Jorge

You are entitled to your opinion, but there is no hysterical reaction at all. Tony is just sittin' pretty up there in D.C with all the other folks being protected in their plastic bubbles. It is an invasion of illegals that is totally being allowed by those in our country who are sworn to uphold the law, on all levels. These people break the law by coming here illegally. End of story. We have seen such an increase in violent crimes, and they are mostly against women and children, so it is not surprising that it is men who think we are just hysterical reactionaries. And, law abiding citizens are suffering the consequences of those pathetically lame reps. And regarding a job, well, its quite sad when a job includes using all one's might to delude as many folks as possible...


274 posted on 06/03/2006 6:14:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: AmericaOne
Tony, Tony, Tony,

Words mean things. Please look at the second and third definitions.

No, it is not a military invasion. But most definitely, yes, this is an invasion.

What good if we liberate Iraq but lose our own nation?
275 posted on 06/03/2006 6:26:52 AM PDT by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: plain talk
Snow is technically right. It is NOT an invasion by a government of another country and that's what the framers were talking about. Use a different word. The problem is still there though.

Snow is trying to cloak this mess in euphemistic bullsh!t-speak. It's disappointing to see people here supporting that.

276 posted on 06/03/2006 6:47:45 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Mr. Jeeves

"even if he agrees with the FR consensus "

He doesnt. His writings put him to the left of Bush on illegal immigration.


277 posted on 06/03/2006 6:52:12 AM PDT by mthom
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To: TigersEye
Snow is the one who is trying to attach that meaning to it in order to demonize anyone who protests against this attempted subversion of the rule of law and he is doing it at the behest of the President.

Yep. It's not going to work, though.

278 posted on 06/03/2006 7:01:18 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: TomGuy
With Clinton, it was called parsing.
With Kerry, it was called nuancing.

With Snow, it was called representing the position of his boss as required.

279 posted on 06/03/2006 7:10:04 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: Vision
>>Please post your propaganda somewhere else and see post 271.<<


Vision, you are calling our President names instead of discussing his policies. You engage me in personal attacks instead of debating. End even post 271 where you do use some (sarcastic) facts you get some wrong.

If you look up federal prison statistics you would find that hispanics are incarcerated at a rate about 1/3 that of blacks.

Illegal immigration is a problem. We haven't taken it seriously and it has built up. I favor the wall. I favor criminalizing illegal aliens. I favor arresting people who emply illegals.

But along with this we will need a massive increase in legal immigration and people who. This is a litmus test - if people object to new legal immigration then they were really weren't concerned about illegals they just don't like brown people. Also, those of you who want to blame every ill in society on illegals sound like you want a scape goat, not a solution. And you seem to have chosen our President as that scape goat. It hurts our country to scape goat the President instead of working on the issues.
280 posted on 06/03/2006 7:48:25 AM PDT by gondramB (We may have done a lill' bit of fightin amongst ourselves but you outside people best leave us alone)
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