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1 posted on 06/02/2006 2:38:39 PM PDT by ardmoreokie
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"In only China and Germany was a majority of the population of the opinion that peace and stability in the world could best be achieved under the leadership of the United Nations."


LOL


2 posted on 06/02/2006 2:40:34 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Look at profile for current ways to deal with illegals immigration)
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If Washington continues to give away America, then we'll cease to be a world power long before China gets it's feet under itself.


3 posted on 06/02/2006 2:40:36 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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In an opinion poll.
4 posted on 06/02/2006 2:41:38 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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Somebody should tell China that you are never really a super power unless you can do that "Force Projection" thing.

Like pick up 250,000 troops, take them half way around the world and sustain them in combat operations.


6 posted on 06/02/2006 2:44:05 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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Wouldn't China's large population somehow distort the poll results? I guess there is still something to be said (commended?) of national confidence.


7 posted on 06/02/2006 2:45:12 PM PDT by ardmoreokie
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In China and Brazil less than a third of those surveyed put terrorism in that category. The Chinese listed environmental destruction and scarcity of natural resources as top threats.

The Chinese have got their priorities right. Scarcity of natural resources is a big thing in the future, not illiterate muslims.
8 posted on 06/02/2006 2:49:43 PM PDT by ardmoreokie
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We could argue about the dates, 2020, 2025, 2030, but whatever date you pick, without Clinton it would have been 10-20 years further out.


10 posted on 06/02/2006 2:50:16 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("I don't think Pat Kennedy is crazy, he's just a drunk" -- G. Gordon Liddy (5-10-06))
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I would like to know the quality of the sample they used. Plus China will implode well before 2020 - environmental destruction, financial meltdown, insipid corruption - Yeah, they will overtake us. HAHAHA


11 posted on 06/02/2006 2:50:16 PM PDT by steel_resolve (George Bush, why hast thou forsaken me?)
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yawn... last decade it was Japan... next decade it will be India...

I've heard it all before.


13 posted on 06/02/2006 2:53:03 PM PDT by conservative physics
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I always find it funny that people like such behave in this way:

1) They believe US's absolute power is more than everyone else combined.

2) Due to 1), they believe most US actions must be stopped.

3) But they also believe in 15 years it will be PR China who will call the shots.

4) But the logic of 3 is that US actions will fail because in time, they will be countered by Chinese actions.

5) 4) makes 2) redundant. There is no point to be anti-American now because the US will be nothing more than a glorified Australia by 2020, just like it was in the days when the British Empire was one which the sun never sets.

6) If 5) is true this means these people don't think with reason.


16 posted on 06/02/2006 2:56:46 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Western MSMs are becoming Chinese media, nothing is true apart from the paper's name and date.)
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Unfortunately, I believe it.

The United States can't even conduct a war without 1/2 the population and the free press bitching about killing the enemy.


17 posted on 06/02/2006 2:59:08 PM PDT by aShepard (-Maybe replace Kofi with Ray Nagin: Black for Black; Dumb for Dumb; Blame others for Blame others!)
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[In the survey (poll), based on interviews of 10,250 people worldwide]

In the U.S. the media uses 1000 people to share their opinions to represent their idea of truth, Germany, at least, 10 times that amount to take the pulse of the whole world. How could hundreds of millions of experts possible be wrong, I guess we're DOOMED.


18 posted on 06/02/2006 3:01:21 PM PDT by RetSignman
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China as a world power ? Sort of.
China as the equivalent to a World War I Great Power? Yep
As the equivalent to the US/USSR superpower? Not even close.
When they can land 500,000 troops anywhere in the world. I'll acknowledge them as a great power. When they go to war with a defeat another world power. Then I'll worry.
19 posted on 06/02/2006 3:08:05 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The social contract is breaking down.)
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My understanding is that their economic output is in the neighborhood of 1.6 trillion or 1.8 trillion.

Assuming we continue on at our long term economic growth rate of 3.1%, we'll grow from a 12 trillion dollar economy to a 254 triilion dollar economy in 100 year.

China will have to grow at a rate of some 5.1% for that hundred years to achieve the same measure.

That's quite a hurdle considering their confiscatory regulations and restrictions, awkward monetary and fiscal policies.

This of course says nothing of their fragile financial system, which is predisposed to a meltdown fairly soon (look to banks' capital inadequacy and misallocation of resources).

Probably not in 200 years.


21 posted on 06/02/2006 3:18:17 PM PDT by Plymouth Sentinel (Sooner Rather Than Later)
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China is going to grow in power within world affairs without a doubt. But the Chinese are going to face a reckoning on several fronts over the next couple of decades and, regardless of what course they take to face these problems, we are going to see sweeping changes within that country as they confront them. They will eventually be forced to have the value of their currency set against that of other nations [can you spell i-n-f-l-a-t-i-o-n?], their costs for natural resources will rise -- not only in outright, but in comparitive terms, and their ability to "technologically manage" their population will eventually come to naught and will most certainly backfire upon their leadership.

China will not be able to assume world power status in any real sense of the term unless and until these problems are faced.
22 posted on 06/02/2006 3:22:31 PM PDT by StJacques
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I've been to China. It won't be a world power rivaling the US any time soon and certainly not by 2020.


26 posted on 06/02/2006 3:37:10 PM PDT by kabar
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The United States will lose its position as the world's undisputed leading power over the next decade and a half, with China emerging as a formidable rival, according to a new survey from Germany's Bertelsmann Foundation.

Given the accuracy shown in other "studies of the future" over the decades, China should take no comfort from this.

28 posted on 06/02/2006 3:45:31 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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57 percent of respondents said they believed the United States would be a world power in the year 2020 compared to 55 percent who saw China in that role

If you can't do, then teach. If you can't find real news, then take a poll and call it news.

31 posted on 06/02/2006 3:56:37 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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