Posted on 06/02/2006 11:13:28 AM PDT by jveritas
Document Document ISGQ-2003-00004530 dated September 15 2002 is a memo from a General in Saddam Feedayeens to the Supervisor of those Feedayeens who is not other than Uday Saddam Hussein. The memo talks about a hidden large container that contain a Chemical Material and that it was buried under the ground near Fallujah back when Hussein Kamal Hussein was in charge of the Iraqi Military Industrialization Commission. Hussein Kamal was the brother in law of Saddam who fled to Jordan in 1995 exposed to the world that Saddam still have WMD and then Saddam tricked him to come back by granting him amnesty. When he returned to Iraq he was killed by the regime. If what in this document is true that this shows that one of the obvious way to hide the WMD was to bury it under the ground and in this case the difficulty of finding it in a country the size of California.
Beginning of the translation of Document ISGQ-2003-00004530 page 1 and 2.
In the Name of God The Most Compassionate The Most Merciful
The Republic of Iraq
The Presidency of the Republic
Saddam Feedayeens
Secretariat
The Supervisor of Saddam Feedayeens
2002/9
The Respected Supervisor of Saddam Feedayeens
Subject: Information
Salute and regards Sir
We received information that state the following:
1. A team from the Military Industrialization Commission when Hussein Kamel Hussein was conducting his responsibilities did bury a large container said that it contains a Chemical Material in the village (Al Subbayhat) part of the district of Karma in Fallujah in a quarry region that was used by SamSung Korean company and close to the homes of some citizens.
2. The container was buried using a fleet of concrete mixers.
3. Before the departure of the international inspectors in 1998 a United Nations helicopter flew over the region for two hours.
4. A large number of the region residents know about this container from the large number of machines used to hide it then.
5. It was noticed a non ordinary smell in the region.
6. No official visited the burial site through out the years which give the impression that it is not currently known by the Military Industrialization Commission.
7. Positions for the air defense were digged in the region that surrounds the quarry place without them knowing anything about the container. Also next to it are important headquarters like (Saddam factories-The warehouses of the Commerce ministry- Headquarters of Mujaheeden Khlaq).
Please your Excellency review and order what is appropriate Sir With regards
Signature
General
Moohsen Abdel Karim Mahmood
General Relations
15/9/2002
End of the translation.
As it is to fit the picture into a size photobucket will allow I'm having to make all sorts of adjustments and enhancements in size and quality to best show what is there.
Not really a problem though, I'm having fun doing this.
On the bottom of each picture you will note that longitude and latitude are listed along with altitude and eye altitude. Altitude is the height of the surface above sea level and eye altitude is the viewing location about the ground level. Streaming 100% just means that my computer is done loading the area I'm looking at and that I can focus in on anything in that area to the degree that I am allowed by the image. Some areas don't allow a crisp clear shot because the satellite image for that area is dated and blurred by poor resolution.
As for findinjg this village of Al Subbayhat, I have an Idea for jveritas, maybe he could find it on a map in arabic of this area, granted I don't know where to get such a map but it seems logical that such a map would have more detail as to names then the maps we have been using.
Thanks for all the info! In your post #153 in the second picture with Karma near the top, there are two areas that look interesting. One area is a round dot, which looks man made, just a little bit to the NE and the other area is to the left just a little bit upward that is oblong in shape. Both appear peach colored in the photo.
They look out of place.
Suggestion to translator: Translate right! The original says Allah..not God! Big difference.
The spot looks round from a distance because of the shadow of a curved depression in it.
Here's a note on what can be done with google earth.
Using the measuring device I was able to figure out that the warehouse area in this tiny village set apart from the town I marked as "Karma", is almost 3/4 of a mile long by a 1/4 mile wide. Making this area of warehouses almost bigger then the village it is in. Just to name this village I've called it "Al Subbayhat" for the purpose of allowing me to automatically return to it when ever I turn on google earth (a bookmark on a map)
PING
Good work as always, been waiting for this post !
Someone else identified the circular area as a self propelled irrigation system. That would be my guess. It appears to be off season or abandoned as there is nothing green associated with it.
As I've been saying since the war started, Western Iraq is a huge sandbox. Want to hide something? Shrink-wrap it, bury it fifty feet deep and cache-mark the spot with GPS.
I have pictures on my work 'puter (no doubt posted to FR at some point) of Iraqi MIGs buried in the sand to protect them from allied attack. Rumor was that the avionics packages were stamped "Produit de Francais" or was that debunked?
According to this article that is the main source (NYT reporter) for the bunkers story 0f June 2005 that the quarry is north of the town. the entrance was found under a house that was standing all alone.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050605/news_1n5iraq.html
"The bunkers found by the Marines were built into an old rock quarry north of the town of Karma, a rebel stronghold in Anbar province that lies near the city of Fallujah."
"Marines were out patrolling and looking for weapons caches, when out in the middle of the desert they see a lone building. They went to go and check it out. In one room there was a large, chest-style electric freezer. The Marines moved it and found the hidden entrance to the underground quarry system," Pool said.
"Decades ago, Saddam Hussein and his aides began building an extensive series of underground bunkers scattered around Iraq. Hussein hired German engineers in the 1980s to work on these lairs, which included tunnels and chambers beneath palaces in Baghdad and Mosul. It is not known, however, whether the quarry bunker is part of that network.
When U.N. weapons inspectors scoured Iraq in the months before the U.S. invasion, they thoroughly searched many of these bunkers but came up with nothing."
Hope this helps in your search.
But doesn't the word "Allah" translate to God?
By the way, the black dot in my back yard is a trampoline, and all my trees are gone.
Of course, it's a trampoline, I use it to hide my SCUD missile tube.
Allah refers to Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca.
The Judaeo Christian God is Jehovah.
They are absolutely not the same..no matter what Muslims would like you to believe.
The Judaeo Christian God is Jehovah.
They are absolutely not the same..no matter what Muslims would like you to believe. ---
I certainly won't argue with that. But since you say that Muslims believe that "Allah" translates to "God" then wouldn't that be a correct translation that jveritas did?
My opinion is that he should have kept the word Allah in the translation. Translating it into "God" clouds the issue.
I would defer to the translator on this.
Hey, thanks for the coordinates.
Time to fire up Google Earth.
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