2002 Document: Chemical Material Hidden Underground (Translation)

Pentagon/FMSO website Iraqi Pre-War documents ^ | June 2 2006 | jveritas

[usmcobra]

I called them that.

We are look for an area with concrete slabs, what would be under those warehouses?

Logically the concrete slabs they are built upon.

I can zero in on anything in the Karma Area within an eye altitude of 400 ft, but I normally use about 1500 to 2000 ft because the closer you get the the more things get blurred.

As it is to fit the picture into a size photobucket will allow I'm having to make all sorts of adjustments and enhancements in size and quality to best show what is there.

Not really a problem though, I'm having fun doing this.

On the bottom of each picture you will note that longitude and latitude are listed along with altitude and eye altitude. Altitude is the height of the surface above sea level and eye altitude is the viewing location about the ground level. Streaming 100% just means that my computer is done loading the area I'm looking at and that I can focus in on anything in that area to the degree that I am allowed by the image. Some areas don't allow a crisp clear shot because the satellite image for that area is dated and blurred by poor resolution.

As for findinjg this village of Al Subbayhat, I have an Idea for jveritas, maybe he could find it on a map in arabic of this area, granted I don't know where to get such a map but it seems logical that such a map would have more detail as to names then the maps we have been using.

[avacado]

Thanks for all the info! In your post #153 in the second picture with Karma near the top, there are two areas that look interesting. One area is a round dot, which looks man made, just a little bit to the NE and the other area is to the left just a little bit upward that is oblong in shape. Both appear peach colored in the photo.

They look out of place.

[eleni121]

Suggestion to translator: Translate right! The original says Allah..not God! Big difference.

[eleni121]

The media will not report it...why should they when even so called defenders of this president- so called conservative pundits - when asked about the missing WMD's start out by saying that the President was deceived...we were all deceived.

Disgusting. Spineless RINOS.

[usmcobra]

Here's the areas you wanted to see.

The spot looks round from a distance because of the shadow of a curved depression in it.

Here's a note on what can be done with google earth.

Using the measuring device I was able to figure out that the warehouse area in this tiny village set apart from the town I marked as "Karma", is almost 3/4 of a mile long by a 1/4 mile wide. Making this area of warehouses almost bigger then the village it is in. Just to name this village I've called it "Al Subbayhat" for the purpose of allowing me to automatically return to it when ever I turn on google earth (a bookmark on a map)

[IrishMike]

PING
Good work as always, been waiting for this post !

[Western Phil]

Someone else identified the circular area as a self propelled irrigation system. That would be my guess. It appears to be off season or abandoned as there is nothing green associated with it.

[Ostlandr]

As I've been saying since the war started, Western Iraq is a huge sandbox. Want to hide something? Shrink-wrap it, bury it fifty feet deep and cache-mark the spot with GPS.

I have pictures on my work 'puter (no doubt posted to FR at some point) of Iraqi MIGs buried in the sand to protect them from allied attack. Rumor was that the avionics packages were stamped "Produit de Francais" or was that debunked?

[jveritas]

I agree 100%. The Western desert in Iraq is a great place to hide things and its population is very much loyal to the ex-regime.

[Albertafriend]

According to this article that is the main source (NYT reporter) for the bunkers story 0f June 2005 that the quarry is north of the town. the entrance was found under a house that was standing all alone.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050605/news_1n5iraq.html

"The bunkers found by the Marines were built into an old rock quarry north of the town of Karma, a rebel stronghold in Anbar province that lies near the city of Fallujah."

"Marines were out patrolling and looking for weapons caches, when out in the middle of the desert they see a lone building. They went to go and check it out. In one room there was a large, chest-style electric freezer. The Marines moved it and found the hidden entrance to the underground quarry system," Pool said.

"Decades ago, Saddam Hussein and his aides began building an extensive series of underground bunkers scattered around Iraq. Hussein hired German engineers in the 1980s to work on these lairs, which included tunnels and chambers beneath palaces in Baghdad and Mosul. It is not known, however, whether the quarry bunker is part of that network.

When U.N. weapons inspectors scoured Iraq in the months before the U.S. invasion, they thoroughly searched many of these bunkers but came up with nothing."

Hope this helps in your search.

[avacado]

--- Suggestion to translator: Translate right! The original says Allah..not God! Big difference. ---

But doesn't the word "Allah" translate to God?

[avacado]

Thanks again for the images. That program you have is very nice. I like that fly-over angle you did.

In the top picture where you have the word "oblong" and the arrow. Right below the arrow and across that canal looks like a road that goes to a quarry area. That looks sort of promising. It certainly is near some houses as the document says.

[usmcobra]

http://earth.google.com/

Did I mention that besides being highly addictive, google earth is free to download and use?

If you have dsl or broadband and a fairly recent computer(windows XP) it is worth having.

By the way, the black dot in my back yard is a trampoline, and all my trees are gone.

[avacado]

Thanks for the tip on Earth Google. I didn't know it it cost money or not. I'll hook it up this week.

And are you sure that is a trampoline in your backyard? It looks like a quarry to me...and there appears to be a freshly dug up area by it???? Might have to notify the Pentagon about this. ;-)

[usmcobra]

Of course, it's a trampoline, I use it to hide my SCUD missile tube.

[eleni121]

Allah refers to Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca.

The Judaeo Christian God is Jehovah.

They are absolutely not the same..no matter what Muslims would like you to believe.

[avacado]

--- Allah refers to Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca.

The Judaeo Christian God is Jehovah.

They are absolutely not the same..no matter what Muslims would like you to believe. ---

I certainly won't argue with that. But since you say that Muslims believe that "Allah" translates to "God" then wouldn't that be a correct translation that jveritas did?

[eleni121]

My opinion is that he should have kept the word Allah in the translation. Translating it into "God" clouds the issue.

I would defer to the translator on this.

[LayoutGuru2]

Hey, thanks for the coordinates.
Time to fire up Google Earth.

[AmeriBrit]

Sometime around the time of the deaths of the brothers Uday and WhoDinky there was a report I read here at FR that said right before we went into Iraq the Euphrates River was at an all time low, and Saddam had concrete bunkers built into the banks in Fallujah, filled with unknown contents then sealed, and when the river returned to normal level they were completely hidden from detection.

I'm just recalling this from memory so maybe someone else here will remember and be able to elaborate on it.