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The stone-age Basque language remains mystery to scientists
Deutsche Presse-Agentur ^ | 01 June 2006 | Sinikka Tarvainen

Posted on 06/01/2006 11:51:18 PM PDT by Marius3188

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1 posted on 06/01/2006 11:51:20 PM PDT by Marius3188
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old European societies were . . . matriarchal . . . life was remarkably peaceful.

Mutually exclusive conditions.

2 posted on 06/02/2006 12:27:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Build the fence. Sí, Se Puede!)
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I spent some time in northern Spain and met some Basque people. Fine people that spoke in English to me- probably just to practice my own language. They live on some of the most fertile ground in Europe to grow things on. Very green veggies. Lambs that taste really good.

If I could do over now, I would live there and marry a wife that says screw the big cities, it's fine just exactly where we are right now.

3 posted on 06/02/2006 12:40:13 AM PDT by BobS
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I am surprised that the scientists are "puzzled". They normally have an answer for everything. Not always correct but it is an answer.


4 posted on 06/02/2006 1:15:59 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: BobS

What's the cost of living like ?


5 posted on 06/02/2006 1:18:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Ping.


6 posted on 06/02/2006 1:32:15 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: taxesareforever
I am surprised that the scientists are "puzzled". They normally have an answer for everything. Not always correct but it is an answer.

Young earth creationist or 'intelligent design'?

7 posted on 06/02/2006 2:13:24 AM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Apparently, that was before women had PMS.


8 posted on 06/02/2006 2:24:41 AM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: Marius3188

Fascinating stuff - nice find!


9 posted on 06/02/2006 3:57:44 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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"Why Euskera resisted the Indo-European and later Roman and other invasions and finally the onslaught of the Spanish language is also a mystery."

It's a fascinating subject.

If the Celtic dialects are known to linguists and relate to other languages, then this suggests that these people preceded the Celts in Europe, and perhaps were driven back into the district they're in now by the invading Celts.


10 posted on 06/02/2006 4:33:48 AM PDT by RoadTest (For the love of money is the root of all evil - I Timothy 6:10)
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To: Thinkin' Gal; taxesareforever; RoadTest
The Relationship Between The Basque And Ainu

"If the Celtic dialects are known to linguists and relate to other languages, then this suggests that these people preceded the Celts in Europe, and perhaps were driven back into the district they're in now by the invading Celts."

The Tocharian language A & B is an extinct European language that is most closely related to the ancient Celtic languages. The oldest paper ever found has Tocharian written on it and was found in China. Look to the east for answers.

It is suspected that the red-headed mummies found in the deserts of China spoke Tocharian.

11 posted on 06/02/2006 5:02:19 AM PDT by blam
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To: Marius3188

bump for later read


12 posted on 06/02/2006 5:33:32 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RoadTest
If the Celtic dialects are known to linguists and relate to other languages, then this suggests that these people preceded the Celts in Europe, and perhaps were driven back into the district they're in now by the invading Celts.
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Celtic is a subfamily of the Indo-european languages, so that is pretty much what the article said.
13 posted on 06/02/2006 5:44:49 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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"Shibumi" -- a Travanian tale of an assassin with strange talents who lives in the Basque region contains some interesting insights of the Basques.


14 posted on 06/02/2006 5:58:36 AM PDT by Eastbound (u)
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What is interesting is that many Basque people migrated to what is now northern Nevada state (of all things!) and turned that part of the state into a major sheep grazing area. From Reno east to Ely, the Basque influence is still there.

There used to be a lot of tensions between the ETA terrorists and the Spanish government but things have calmed down quite a bit now that the Basques in Spain have the type of autonomy that the Catalans enjoy in that country.

As for the origins of the Basque people, it's so baffling that some of the more far-out suggestions that they are the descendants of the Atlanteans when that continent sank ain't much more far-out than many of what anthropologists suggest nowadays.

15 posted on 06/02/2006 6:03:07 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Jeff Chandler
old European societies were . . . matriarchal . . . life was remarkably peaceful.

Mutually exclusive conditions.

Are there 112 ways of saying "Yes, Dear" in their language?

16 posted on 06/02/2006 6:24:27 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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The Basque are thought to have been fishing American waters and salting their cod on the American mainland before Columbus.When Jacque Cartier "discovered' the mouth of the Saint Lawrence, he noted the presence of 1,000 Basque fishing vessels (Cod, by Mark Kurlansky, p. 29.).
17 posted on 06/02/2006 6:55:29 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei (One doesn't have to regret the Enlightenment to be a conservative!)
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To: thomaswest
Young earth creationist or 'intelligent design'?

Why try to figure out where the language came from, it says in the Bible that it comes from the tower of Babel around 5000 years ago. Any other explanation is heresy, and the purveyor of that heresy should be burned at the stake.

18 posted on 06/02/2006 7:11:21 AM PDT by cryptical (Wretched excess is just barely enough.)
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To: BobS

I lived in southern France, a town called Pau, in 1980-81. There is a large Basque presence there. The people were very friendly (which I think is more a function of small towns than being Basque). I heard some Basque spoken. I was able to speak French with them without the criticism I found in Paris and Bordeau. The French spoken there was slower and with a nasal character. Words like pain and vin were pronounced (roughly) as "pang" and "vang".

As for the women there, some were attractive enough, but very few caught my eye. This had more to do with hygiene than looks, though, as I recall.


19 posted on 06/02/2006 7:41:48 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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An ice-cream shop has a sign saying 'izozkiak.'

Does that sound stone-age?

20 posted on 06/02/2006 7:45:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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