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The stone-age Basque language remains mystery to scientists
Deutsche Presse-Agentur ^ | 01 June 2006 | Sinikka Tarvainen

Posted on 06/01/2006 11:51:18 PM PDT by Marius3188

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To: Tax Government; blam
As near as I can tell, the consensus is that the Northern Caucasian family (which is the Caucasian in Dene-Caucasian) is not closely related to Kartvelian (Georgian, etc aka Southern Caucasian), and that the similarities between them are contact phenomena, like exist in the Balkans or in Africa (where a few Bantu languages have adopted "click" sounds from Khoi-San)
61 posted on 06/02/2006 5:03:03 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American

If you'd like to hear what sounds like a click consonant in Chechen, try this very pleasant, well produced song by Aza (Britney x 100).

http://www.chechnyafree.ru/ram/music/938.asx

What appears to be a voiceless, unaspirated glottal stop is here: 4th line, 2nd syllable.


62 posted on 06/02/2006 5:10:52 PM PDT by Tax Government (Defeat the evil miscreant donkeys and their rhino lackeys.)
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To: Tax Government

It's a very pretty song. Thanks for posting it.


63 posted on 06/02/2006 5:49:26 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: Virginia-American
"(where a few Bantu languages have adopted "click" sounds from Khoi-San)"

African Click Language 'Holds Key To Earliest Human Speech'

64 posted on 06/02/2006 5:50:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: after dark

You people are to smart for me


65 posted on 06/02/2006 6:02:24 PM PDT by gocats
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To: shibumi

They're talking about you behind your back.....:)


66 posted on 06/02/2006 7:52:25 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: after dark

Thanks.


67 posted on 06/02/2006 8:46:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Marius3188

Very interesting. Wonder if they have done any DNA sampling?


68 posted on 06/02/2006 8:49:23 PM PDT by Dustbunny (Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me)
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To: Dustbunny
For later.

L

69 posted on 06/02/2006 8:56:38 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents amnesty proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: Jack Hammer

I liked "The Loo Sanction" and "The Eiger Sanction," but I never could get through "Shibumi." Usually, I like all books (or none) by an author.


70 posted on 06/02/2006 9:01:29 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Salamander

Thanks for watching my back.

The screen name, however, holds more significance for me due to it's connotations in the Japanese language than the accidental setting of the novel in the Basque country - although the novel is where I first came in contact with the concept twenty some years ago.


71 posted on 06/03/2006 12:38:37 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: Salamander

.......and as far as the language issue goes: "Sola lingua bona, lingua mortua est."


72 posted on 06/03/2006 12:45:13 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: Marius3188

the only area of the US where there are a lot of Basques is Idaho, where Basque shepherds and their families were imported.
My next door neighbor was a Basque, but didn't speak the language, although he parents spoke a little.


73 posted on 06/03/2006 2:42:17 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: shibumi

I know that silly.
I was being a smart@ss.....:))

[and trolling you, so there]....:-P


74 posted on 06/03/2006 7:22:06 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: shibumi

Oh, sure.
*You* say that and nobody reacts.
*I* say it and wind up in flame war over it.....LOL!


75 posted on 06/03/2006 7:25:31 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander

You just have to do your posting at 3AM, when all the flamers are asleep.



(OOOOPS!)


76 posted on 06/03/2006 8:18:47 AM PDT by shibumi (".....panta en pasin....." - Origen)
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To: shibumi

Sic'im, flamers!


77 posted on 06/03/2006 9:21:08 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent)
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To: Virginia-American

Caucasian language family is controversial. I have read that Georgian and Kartvelian are not related to each other. Khoisan is the click language which among them include San Bushman and Hottentots. I have seen pictures of them and they look more Mongoloid than Negroid.


78 posted on 06/03/2006 3:42:03 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: Marius3188

Basque people have contributed to European, Latin America, and Western Civilization.

Famous Basques
St. Ignatius of Loyola
Francis Xavier
Cabeza de Vaca
Louis Daguerre
Simon Bolivar
Lope de Aguirre
Juan Bautista de Anza
Che Guevara
Luis Echeverria
Evita Peron
Augusto Pinochet
Ted Williams


79 posted on 06/03/2006 3:47:35 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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America B.C.
by Barry Fell
(1976)
find it in a nearby library
A fascinating letter I received from a Shoshone Indian who had been traveling in the Basque country of Spain tells of his recognition of Shoshone words over there, including his own name, whose Shoshone meaning proved to match the meaning attached to a similar word by the modern Basques. Unfortunately I mislaid this interesting letter. If the Shoshone scholar who wrote to me should chance to see these words I hope he will forgive me and contact me again. The modern Basque settlers of Idaho may perhaps bring forth a linguist to investigate matters raised in this chapter. [p 173]

80 posted on 11/28/2008 9:38:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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