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Haditha: Blood Money, Lies and Videotape?
Front Page Mag ^ | June 2, 2006 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 06/01/2006 9:09:03 PM PDT by beaversmom

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To: beaversmom

A lot of Iraqi civilians are going to die now so the MSM can continue with their "massacre" stories. The MSM will do anything to get the power back for their DemocRATic massas. I've seen this movie before.


21 posted on 06/01/2006 10:08:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Somebody get Jack a beer! He spent the whole day "fraggin'" Marines!)
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To: All
Eventually the price is knocked down to $4,000 and a woman, her value to be determined in later negotiations.

For this incident, give them $5,000 and their pick of Madeleine Albright, Helen Thomas, or Janet Reno.

22 posted on 06/01/2006 10:11:13 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
Why would Mulla Murtha rush to judgment?

Oh, never mind!

23 posted on 06/01/2006 10:13:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jazusamo

bttt


24 posted on 06/01/2006 10:14:05 PM PDT by Hoodat ( Silly Dems, AYBABTU.)
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To: beaversmom
Lying is part of Arabian culture, approved by Allah and the way they do things.

Sort of like the culture at ABCCBSCNN.

25 posted on 06/01/2006 10:19:02 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is just an enemy attack by other means with the assistance of unpatriotic leftist news media and politicians.

The question of whether innocent civilians were killed is irrelevant, it happens in war and thats a fact.

I guess FDR was a war criminal for Dresden and Truman for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

We will never win a war again as long as a POTUS lets the media and his political opponents continue to do this.

Lincoln and FDR put politicians and the press in jail for a lot less.

Pity our brave soldiers are dying and a bunch of clowns are running the PR war at home.


26 posted on 06/01/2006 10:22:15 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Rome2000

I agree with you 100%. If America wins the war on terror, the Liberals lose. They can't afford to let America win. The liars in the MSM will do and say anything to insure we lose this war.


27 posted on 06/01/2006 10:29:18 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Somebody get Jack a beer! He spent the whole day "fraggin'" Marines!)
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To: beaversmom

All you have to do to distort something to your political ends is to (a) quote people from both sides of a story, (b) give credibility to those who support your version, (c) disregard or sneer at those opposite. Result: CNN, WP, NYT, etc. promote their agenda.


28 posted on 06/01/2006 10:34:41 PM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: beaversmom

ping


29 posted on 06/01/2006 11:11:42 PM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Get used to these "massacre" gigs. The MSM just showed the people who want to kill us how to get Americans REALLY tired of the war on terror. The Al-Qaeda boys will be staging one of these "massacres" for their cohorts in the MSM EVERYDAY from here on out. This is how you "win" wars. Ask the North Vietnamese. I heard the coke addicts over at the BBC have a videotape of 11 "civilians" who were "massacred" by a renegade band of marauding Marines.

Thanks for a good post. So true - and SO disgusting!

Here are some more "muzzie" stories - eventually proven to be hoaxes, but not before they had wreaked havoc and huge losses. And of course our liberal politicos and MSM all fell for them:

The hoax that started a war

Probe: Famous 'martyrdom' of Palestinian boy 'staged' Shooting of intifada's 12-year-old poster-child called 'street theater

30 posted on 06/01/2006 11:14:18 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Thanks for those links. I read that the military is going to exhume the bodies of those killed in Murtha's "massacre." I think that is a good thing. Hopefully, the truth, whatever it is will finally come out. The MSM can no longer be believed. They are in a bloody feeding frenzy right now. They have only one thing on their mind. Helping the extremist, Liberal DemocRATS like Reid, Kennedy, Pelosi and Murtha gain control of our government and our wallets.


31 posted on 06/01/2006 11:27:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Somebody get Jack a beer! He spent the whole day "fraggin'" Marines!)
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To: beaversmom
The list of 15 victims deemed to be noncombatants was put together by intelligence personnel attached to the battalion, Major Hyatt said. Those victims were related to a Haditha city council member, he said.

"I didn't say we had made a mistake," Major Hyatt said, describing what he had told the city council member who was representing the victims. "I said I'm being told I can make payments for these 15 because they were deemed not to be involved in combat."

I wonder if being relatives of a member of the Haditha city council influenced the decision to declare those 15 Iraqis as "noncombatants".

32 posted on 06/01/2006 11:41:29 PM PDT by Eagle9
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To: beaversmom

Here is a question someone might want to ask:


Why if the Marines "cracked" and went on a "killing" rampage, did they do it this time? What was different here than all the other times they performed by the book?

Murtha ? do you have an answer?


33 posted on 06/01/2006 11:52:14 PM PDT by woofie
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To: hsalaw

lying to an infidel is not a sin, it is to be applauded


34 posted on 06/02/2006 12:57:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Bush lost his mojo??)
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To: beaversmom
This part bears repeating:

"To be fair to individual Iraqis, lying and deception is an integral part of their culture. It is not even considered lying to them; it is more akin to being clever - like keeping your cards close to your chest. And they don’t just lie to westerners. They believe that appearances--saving face--are of paramount importance. They lie to each other all the time about anything in order to leverage others on a deal or manipulate an outcome of some sort or cover up some major or minor embarrassment. It’s just how they do things, period.

"I’m not trying to disparage them here. I get along great with a lot of them. But even among those that I like, if something happens I’ll get 50 wildly different stories, every time. There’s no comparison to it in any other part of the world where I’ve worked. The lying is ubiquitous and constant.

"Obviously in the case of these soldiers, the “witnesses” were lying with malice for profit - saving face had nothing to do with it.

"But every Westerner here has been taken totally by surprise by the lies upon lies upon BS and lies. It makes it impossible to form any agreements, impossible to plan anything, and impossible to investigate anything….

35 posted on 06/02/2006 1:09:50 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Wait.... Are the above statements about Iraqis or American Democrats?
No matter.....


36 posted on 06/02/2006 1:10:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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ON THE NET...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1642075/posts


37 posted on 06/02/2006 1:51:43 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Lancey Howard
I caught a fish this big!


38 posted on 06/02/2006 1:55:28 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (A nation without borders is not a nation." president Reagan)
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To: piasa; backhoe

ping


39 posted on 06/02/2006 1:56:33 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy; All

Allahpundit has a post packed with information about the alleged massacre at Haditha by US Marines: Haditha: Marine eyewitnesses come forward (Update: Audio and video of the attack?)  

http://www.instapundit.com/

UPDATE: Peter Ingemi writes that the antiwar left has made Haditha morally irrelevant: At HADITHA ROUNDUP, plus this pretty much sure-fire prediction: "The media frenzy around the actions of a handful of Marines is now building and, as happened with the illegal acts at Abu Graib, will be used to advance agendas unrelated to the allegations, agendas which trade on the slander of the American military, and which use the very rare exceptions to paint broadly, even as the enemy will." ANOTHER UPDATE: Background and video here.

Haditha Updates  link: 340 comments
Haditha, Smells like Jenin... Broken Borders... and much more... you need to read it all, at Atlas Shrugs:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
Just a sample:
Regardless of where the truth ultimately is, at this point the major media’s treatment of Haditha is little more than a literate lynch mob in a rush to judgment. Haditha: Who, What, When, Where, Why
"The liberals, the MSM, the Murtha f*ckers, will not let this go, ever... They are our enemies from within."

40 posted on 06/02/2006 3:05:10 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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