Posted on 06/01/2006 6:44:37 PM PDT by Sam Hill
You have probably heard by now that the doctor who examined the bodies of the civilians in Haditha after the alleged Marine rampage said they were shot in the chest and head and from close range.
You have probably also heard it reported that the death certificates of the deceased record that all the victims were shot. Here is an article which features the source for the quote and probably the author of the death certificates, from the terrorist supporters at Uruknet:
An image taken from footage shot on November 19, 2005 shows bodies in a morgue after an incident in Haditha.
Witnesses, video document massacre in Haditha US Marines killed Iraqi civilians in cold blood
20 May 2006
US Congressman John Murtha said on Wednesday that a Pentagon investigation into the deaths of civilians in Haditha, Iraq, last November will show that US Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha (Democrat, Pennsylvania) was referring to a probe launched into a November 19 incident in which at least 23 civiliansincluding seven woman and three childrenwere gunned down by US troops. Haditha is a predominantly Sunni town 200 kilometers northwest of Baghdad in Anbar province...
Dr. Wahid, the director of the local Haditha hospital, said the Marines brought 24 bodies to his hospital around midnight November 19. He told Time the Marines claimed the victims had been killed by shrapnel, "But it was obvious to us that there were no organs slashed by shrapnel. The bullet wounds were very apparent. Most of the victims were shot in the chest and the headfrom close range."
This quote has now become an essential element in most of the articles on Haditha.
Being the highest ranking doctor on the scene, Wahid (Walid) is probably the person who filled out the death certificates, or he ordered them filled out.
What we haven't been told by our one party media is some of the background on the good doctor.
Again from Uruknet:
Iraqi Doctors Beaten and Arrested in Haditha Hospital
Sabah Ali, BRussells Tribunal
October 30, 2005
Dr. Walid Al-Obeidi, the director of Haditha General Hospital and Dr. Jamil Abdul Jabbar, the only surgeon in the Haditha area were arrested for a week, very badly beaten and threatened to face the same treatment in the future by the American troops.
Dr.Walid said "they arrested me in my house in front of my family, covered my eyes, and tied my hands to the back on Oct 5 2005 morning, during the last attack on Haditha (360 kilometers west of Baghdad). They occupied the hospital for 8 days and made it their office. The first day they beat me on my eyes, nose, back, hands, legs... My face was covered with blood .When they removed the tie I could not see. They investigated me until the afternoon. I realized later that I was arrested in the hospital store. Then they tied my hands to the front, and left me for two days. I was moved then to the pharmacy department. They accused me of treating terrorists, and asked for their names.
I told them that I treat patients regardless of their identity, according to my oath as a doctor; even if they were national guards (which we actually I did) or American soldiers. And any way, if I do not want to treat the insurgents, I have no choice, because they were armed and masked. I would do anything they tell to do. Few days later, one of the soldiers came in the room, did not say anything, kicked me again on my face and left" ...
Both doctors were threatened if they do not talk, they would receive the same treatment in the future. They were warned of passing any information of the arrest to the media. They were asked who wrote the hostile slogans against the American on the opposite wall of the hospital? What are the names of the insurgents they treated? and what are the bodies pictures in the hospital computer?
Dr.Walid said he does not know who wrote on the wall outside the hospital, what the names of the insurgents are, because they were masked. He explained that the dead bodies pictures were of unknown people whose bodies were found after the fighting. "We can not keep these bodies forever; we do not have enough cold boxes. So, after two months, we take their pictures and bury them, so that whenever some one from their families comes to ask we show the pictures of the dead bodies".
The UN, the international HR organizations, WHO, Doctors sans frontiers and all who it may concern are called upon to do some thing to help these, and other Iraqi doctors, and to prevent similar treatment in the future. Dr.Walid and Dr. Jamil believe that they may face the arrest and beating in the future. They demand that the American troops stop occupying the hospital and destroying it every time the attack Haditha. They also believe that the Iraqi authorities are incapable of protecting them.
Is it possible Dr. Walid (Wahid) has an anti-American prejudice?
Remember William Rivers Pitt and his Truthout group pushing that silly story sourced to T J Wilkerson, alleged CIA agent way back when the libs were trying to get the Wilson-Nigerflap thing into the mainstream press.
Yes it does!
Now that's what I call a ping. Back in a min...
This whole thing is an obvious stinking set-up. Any child can see that.
If I have to walk, pick up chickens along the way, and build a fire to melt the asphalt myself.
Just so's ya know...
Ohio Marine Reservists were killed in an August ambush, weapons, dogtags, etc...... confiscated.
That shrapnel wound would be from the IED that many say the Marines lied about...the IED in question would be the one caused by a grenade hitting a propane tank in the kitchen.
This whole affair stinks to high heaven of being orchestrated by Al Jazeera, lying Muslim "eyewitnesses", America-haters like this doctor, and the Michael Moore/George Soros MM cadre.
God bless all our brave Marines who put their lives on the line every day for total starngers, who kick them in the a** in return.
">>>>He told Time the Marines claimed the victims had been killed by shrapnel, "But it was obvious to us that there were no organs slashed by shrapnel. The bullet wounds were very apparent. Most of the victims were shot in the chest and the headfrom close range."<<<
Please note the 10 year old survivor, Iman (Eman) Walid (Waleed) has SHRAPNEL wounds on her left leg as she shows the reporter here: http://emea-search.blinkx.com/tv/search.do?q=&channel_News_ITN=true&query=haditha&engine=blinkx "
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http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m23422&l=i&size=1&hd=0
"I understand the investigation shows that in fact there was no firefight," Murtha said, "there was no explosion that killed the civilians on a bus. There was no shrapnel. There were only bullet holes inside the house where the Marines had gone in."
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Also...am I nuts, or is this little girl's last name the same as the Iraqi doctor?
Red Diaper Doper Babies
ROTFLMAO!
Walid (Wahid, Waheed) is the Doctor's first name. His last/family name is al Obeidi (Obaidi).
Arabic names are maddening.
So, after two months, we take their pictures and bury them,
What do you bet these "victims" are already in the ground.
EXCELLENT point
"Would someone please explain to me why Marines who had just allegedly murdered civilians then bring the bodies full of close range bullet holes to doctors and then claim they were killed by shrapnel and or an IED blast?????"
I'll give you a scenario....
They go in the house from which shots are being fired- throw a grenade into what turns out to be the kitchen and the propane tank blows up. Then, they enter the kitchen, find the bodies riddled with bullets and realize they've been set up.
THEY set off the grenade which, in turn, ignites the propane tank which, at this point, becomes classified as an IED. And they took responsibility for the IED.
Haditha/Murtha/Irey has been my "favorite" topic the past couple of weeks. I found the President's statement measured and appropriate.
FR is a think tank : )
Must read.
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