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I'm surprised it is so inexpensive.
1 posted on 06/01/2006 5:44:30 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/01/2006 5:44:56 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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It will go for MILLIONS and MILLIONS!! They just put a low amt to get people to think that they could POSSIBLY afford it...ala...Jackie Kennedy's stuff.


3 posted on 06/01/2006 5:51:13 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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Where's the part about hacking off heads and dominating the world as a white male?


5 posted on 06/01/2006 5:58:07 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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"When they [the island natives] perceive that they are safe, putting aside all fear, they are of simple manners and trustworthy and very liberal with everything they have, refusing no one who asks for anything they may possess and even themselves inviting us to ask for things."

Remarkably similar to our current border policies.

6 posted on 06/01/2006 5:58:42 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Some people are like Slinkies: totally useless, but fun to throw down a stair.)
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To: wagglebee
"I'm surprised it is so inexpensive."

Heck, at that price, I'll take two!

9 posted on 06/01/2006 6:43:38 PM PDT by SW6906 (5 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, guns and ammunition.)
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Columbus write in his LOG:

He later wrote of this in his log: "They... brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks' bells. They willingly traded everything they owned.... They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features.... They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane.... They would make fine servants.... With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want."

"As soon as I arrived in the Indies, on the first Island which I found, I took some of the natives by force in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these parts."

He concluded his report by asking for a little help from their Majesties, and in return he would bring them from his next voyage "as much gold as they need . . . and as many slaves as they ask."

A young priest, Bartolome de las Casas, who was there and participated in the conquest of Cuba wrote about the acts committed against the Indians. For a time he owned a plantation on which Indian slaves worked, but he gave that up and became a vehement critic of Spanish cruelty. Excerpts from his history books...

In the year 1495, they went on a great slave raid, rounded up fifteen hundred Arawak men, women, and children, put them in pens guarded by Spaniards and dogs, then picked the five hundred best specimens to load onto ships. Of those five hundred, two hundred died en route. The rest arrived alive in Spain and were put up for sale by the archdeacon of the town, ..........But too many of the slaves died in captivity. And so Columbus, desperate to pay back dividends to those who had invested, had to make good his promise to fill the ships with gold. In the province of Cicao on Haiti, where he and his men imagined huge gold fields to exist, they ordered all persons fourteen years or older to collect a certain quantity of gold every three months. When they brought it, they were given copper tokens to hang around their necks. Indians found without a copper token had their hands cut off and bled to death. The Indians had been given an impossible task. The only gold around was bits of dust garnered from the streams. So they fled, were hunted down with dogs, and were killed. Trying to put together an army of resistance, the Arawaks faced Spaniards who had armor, muskets, swords, horses. When the Spaniards took prisoners they hanged them or burned them to death. Among the Arawaks, mass suicides began, with cassava poison. Infants were killed to save them from the Spaniards. In two years, through murder, mutilation, or suicide, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead. ...............By the year 1515, there were perhaps fifty thousand Indians left. By 1550, there were five hundred. A report of the year 1650 shows none of the original Arawaks or their descendants left on the island.

the above is a small and milder part of what was done to the Indians. If you the stomach to learn what the real actions of a man we still celebrate - do the research. You can start with this site, which quotes from de las Casas, the eye witness.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/Columbus_PeoplesHx.html

Scroll down in the link and get educated.

Added to all that = Columbus didn't even 'discover' America. Many were here before him.

I hope America matures enough one day to stop 'celebrating' Columbus.

10 posted on 06/01/2006 8:33:18 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
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13 posted on 06/01/2006 10:21:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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"..very liberal with everything they have.."

I'm reading a history on Captain Kidd, around 1690's. I believe it was on the island of Madagascar that the women were very "liberal" as well, waiting for the sailors to arrive. For a small piece of iron they would get "married" for a short time. Some sailors would end up sleeping on the ship's deck as they had pulled out the nails on which their hammocks hung!


14 posted on 06/01/2006 10:29:46 PM PDT by geopyg ("I would rather have a clean gov't than one where -quote- 1st Amend. rights are respected." J.McCain)
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Spanish laws prevented seizure of new territories without the approval of the inhabitants and while claiming the islands for Ferdinand and Isabella he covered himself legally. He wrote: "I found many islands inhabited by men without number, of all which I took possession for our most fortunate king, with proclaiming heralds and flying standards, no one objecting."

This explains a lot. Since The government isn't doing or saying a damn thing, would this mean the United States is now owned by Mexico? 'Splains alot...

15 posted on 06/02/2006 1:37:05 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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35 posted on 06/03/2006 6:30:16 AM PDT by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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