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Ok let's break this out. Kennedy says Republicans prevented 357,000 voters from voting or having their votes counted.

He estimates 174,000 were not able to vote due to long lines. No. 174,000 (a highly inflated number to be sure) potential voters did not vote. End of story. If voters did not wait in line to vote or vote by mail, that's their fault.

72,000 not registered to vote due to registration errors. Again, the reponsibility falls on the voter to confirm they are correctly registered.

30,000 voters purged for not voting in previous elections. If you have not voted in more than two elections, you should verify yourself you are registered to vote.

10,000 voters discarded for standing in the wrong line. Too stupid to be allowed to vote.

5,000 turned away by GOP challengers. If they were turned away, they were not registered or valid voters.

So out of that big dramatic and inflated 357,000 potential voters that leaves 66,000 votes 'lost by 'faulty' voting machines. Even if I was generous and assumed there were some problems with voting machines, I would be the majority of this was due to idiot voters.


Kennedy says 357,000 votes

1 posted on 06/01/2006 12:06:44 PM PDT by finnman69
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Not a whole lot mentioned regarding the massive democratic voter fraud in Cleveland, Milwaukee, Seattle, and Philadelphia, that was the only thing that made the race close.

I am 100% for the strictest possible voting regulations. Let's have voter id cards. Mention that to a democrat and they will backtrack and weasle their way out, knowing they get a substantial percentage of their votes from the dead or illegals.


54 posted on 06/01/2006 12:28:41 PM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
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55 posted on 06/01/2006 12:30:11 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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Sore losers! Cry me a river Kennedy you liberal moron!

Is it just me,  or does this guy always sound like he is about to cry? 

56 posted on 06/01/2006 12:30:16 PM PDT by 1035rep
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All I had to do was see WHO wrote the article and see WHERE it was published and that was enough for me.


58 posted on 06/01/2006 12:32:18 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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RFK, Jr. just got finished reading the front page of the paper from November 2004.

Not saying he is the dullest knife in the drawer but by the time he caught on to the "Little Moron" jokes they were no longer politically correct.

59 posted on 06/01/2006 12:33:23 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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Sorry, I couldn't get past "Robert F. Kennedy, Jr." and "Rolling Stone".

65 posted on 06/01/2006 12:38:50 PM PDT by Fintan (One day we'll look back on this and plow into a parked car.)
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Let's say this is correct....Kerry wins the Presidency but still would have lost the national popular vote by millions of votes thus making him even more illegitimate than the dims said W was in his first term.


66 posted on 06/01/2006 12:39:24 PM PDT by xp38
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Being that a Kennedy rant is the author explains unobjectivity. Wonder how much he got paid to have a ghostwriter write this junk for him?


67 posted on 06/01/2006 12:40:09 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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Yes, the 2004 election was defintely stolen, in Washington State.

Odd how Democrats see no problem with a county voting in their favor comes up with some 3,000 more ballots than voters.

They see no problem with endless recounts until they get their way.

If RFKjr wishes to address stolen elections, he needs look no futher than the 2004 Washington State governors fiasco.


71 posted on 06/01/2006 12:42:25 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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This graphic contains an easily explained distortion:

Kerry received fewer votes that another Dem officholder in Mercer, Putnam (where I live) and Van Wert counties because Democrats in this area of Ohio are generally conservative.

Plus, even though they are Democrats, they were smart enough not to vote for Mr. Heinz.

77 posted on 06/01/2006 12:55:03 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Who's the wildman now?)
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The 1960 election was bought and paid for by JFK's father. Carter won against Ford under questionable circumstances.


78 posted on 06/01/2006 12:56:46 PM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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According to the democrats, every election they do not win is stolen.

Honest, decent, law abiding citizens including Country Club Republicans will rue the day that the Democrats regain power.

The Country Club Republicans can prevent it but they are too busy trying to do in the Conservative Republicans.


81 posted on 06/01/2006 1:00:46 PM PDT by sport
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And let's not forget that early voting was in effect for that election. Everyone had a WEEK to get their vote cast.


84 posted on 06/01/2006 1:05:02 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Too soon to remember??? How about TOO SOON TO FORGET!" from Mr. Silverback)
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Ths is actually quite an important article, because it extends and consolidates several themes Democrats have been fooling with since November, 2000. In no particular order:

1) In a fairly conducted election, they will always win.

2) Therefore, when they lose, "something has gone wrong".

3) Actual arithmetical counting of votes is an unreliable means of determining the winner.

4) Votes of minorities, and of blacks in particular, "belong" to the Democrat.

5) Hence, it is fair to use "ascriptive voting" to determine the outcome. If 200 000 blacks did not vote, regardless of why, 200 000 votes should be added to the Democrat.

6) Their party is meant to rule, since they embody the General Will. Hence, procedures such as simple counting and comparing vote totals are an injustice.

Representatives of the Democratic Party have asserted one or all of these propositions in the last six years. RFK junior has thoughhtfully collected them into a comprehensive presentation.

It is, of course, a prescription for civil war. I wonder if he knows that?

86 posted on 06/01/2006 1:06:59 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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One of the most fascinating things about the 2004 election in Ohio is that in many Democratic precincts the number of people registered to vote exceeded the number of people living in the precinct according to the 2000 census.

What happened in 2004 was the Kerry campaign wanted to control all the advertising. They did not want the Soros ... as in moveon.org people doing advertisements. So they chose to delegate the registration of new voters to the Soros people.

Soros and and idiot managers knew nothing about what it takes to register a voter. The Bush campaign used volunteers to register new voters and they knew it takes about 3 hours labor (going door to door) to register one new voter.

The Soros people were unable to get volunteers so they offered people jobs on commission.. They offered to pay them 10 dollars for every person registered. That means in a 9 hour day a worker could earn all of 30 dollars. That is about 3 dollars and 33 cents an hour. That is what they would make on a good day.

Very quickly the people that took the jobs realized the easy way to make money was to cheat. They would take a phone book and register fake names at real addresses. Many of these commissioned workers were turning in 100 new registrations a day. They were drawing pay of a thousand dollars a day.

They quickly ran out of good names. One Kerry hired person tried to register Marry Poppins in Defiance County Ohio.

A couple of weeks before the election the Bush campaign sent me to Pike County, Ohio to make a list of all the fake names registered in Pike County. There were about a thousand of them. A list was made of fake registrations in all counties where fake registrations were make. There were about a quarter million total.

When a person registers to vote in Ohio, the local board of elections sends out a confirmation to that person's address. The notifications for fake registrations came back with either a no such address or no such person at this address.

The Bush campaign knew weeks before the election there were approximately 250,000 fake registrations in Ohio. They were quite afraid that the Democrats had people lined up to go to the polls and vote those fake registrations. A hundred people could go to 50 precincts in a county and vote 50 fake names. That would produce a total of 5,000 fake votes.

The Bush campaign had observers at the polling places with the list of fake voters for that precinct. If the Democrats tried to vote them, they would challenge and expose them. The observers were backed up by local attornies on call and they were prepared to call in federal marshalls.

The Kerry campaign must have thought those fake registrations were real. As election evening wore on they thought those votes were surely going to show up to be counted.

The Exit pollsters also believed that there were a quarter of a million more Democrat voters than there actually were. So they weighted the exit poll numbers by the expected Democrat turn out. Which turned out to be 300 thousand fewer voters than actually voted. The Bush campaign had managed to ge the votes of about 50 thousand registered Democrats who were very opposed to abortion. The exit pollsters believed those 50 thousand registered voters were going to vote for Kerry. They voted for Bush.

The Bush campaign knew by noon election day that there was not going to be an attempt by the Democrats to vote the fake registrations. That instead of a grand conspiracy by Democrats to win the election with fake voters, the Kerry Campaign had been taken to the cleaners for about 2.5 million dollars. They had paid 2.5 million dollars to workers hired to register voters. Nearly all those workers just made up names, registered them and then collected the cash from the Democrats.

The Kerry campaign was seduced by the Soros money. Soros thought money could buy the election. What 2004 proved is that a fool and his money are soon parted and the fool gets nothing for his money.

This year the Unions will be back in the drivers seat of registering new voters in Ohio. They won't get ripped off. They won't register many new voters either.

Today there are still several Rove trained people in the Ohio Republican party. The Democrats started out 2004 thinking they were going to win. Karl Rove was one step ahead of the Kerry campaign at every turn. Rove knew the registrations were fake. Apparently Kerry and his inner circle did not.

It is worth saying that Rove has seen to it that there were about 70,000 newly Registered Republicans in Ohio in 2004. Nearly all of them voted. Kerry had 250 thousand fake registrations.. next to none of them voted.

87 posted on 06/01/2006 1:08:45 PM PDT by Common Tator
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After carefully examining the evidence, I've become convinced that the president's party mounted a massive, coordinated campaign to subvert the will of the people in 2004.

And after a quick read, I've become convinced that the Kennedys (including ol' Swimmer and "I-was-driving-to-a-3am-vote-in-the-House") are nuts.

89 posted on 06/01/2006 1:10:42 PM PDT by hsalaw
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>>>Ok let's break this out. Kennedy says Republicans prevented 357,000 voters from voting or having their votes counted.

There were a large number of voters purged from the 2004.

They were registered to vote in NJ/NY/AND FL

The media did a very poor job reporting on this and made it sound like a bunch of black votes were purged with no explanation.

I'm sure that accounts for a number of 'votes not counted'.


90 posted on 06/01/2006 1:11:24 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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RFK Jr. - Another liberal idiot casting his own nueroses out into the ether.

Pretty soon this BS will become indisputable fact for a majority of leftists.

91 posted on 06/01/2006 1:12:55 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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"The most extensive investigation of what happened in Ohio was conducted by Rep. John Conyers."

Wack-Os all!

92 posted on 06/01/2006 1:14:45 PM PDT by JoeGar
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Are the Kennedys all brain-damaged boozers?
102 posted on 06/01/2006 1:41:07 PM PDT by pabianice
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