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Was the 2004 Election Stolen? (by RFKjr)
Rolling Stone ^ | 6/1/06 | ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.

Posted on 06/01/2006 12:06:42 PM PDT by finnman69

Like many Americans, I spent the evening of the 2004 election watching the returns on television and wondering how the exit polls, which predicted an overwhelming victory for John Kerry, had gotten it so wrong. By midnight, the official tallies showed a decisive lead for George Bush -- and the next day, lacking enough legal evidence to contest the results, Kerry conceded. Republicans derided anyone who expressed doubts about Bush's victory as nut cases in ''tinfoil hats,'' while the national media, with few exceptions, did little to question the validity of the election. The Washington Post immediately dismissed allegations of fraud as ''conspiracy theories,''(1) and The New York Times declared that ''there is no evidence of vote theft or errors on a large scale.''(2)

But despite the media blackout, indications continued to emerge that something deeply troubling had taken place in 2004. Nearly half of the 6 million American voters living abroad(3) never received their ballots -- or received them too late to vote(4) -- after the Pentagon unaccountably shut down a state-of-the-art Web site used to file overseas registrations.(5) A consulting firm called Sproul & Associates, which was hired by the Republican National Committee to register voters in six battleground states,(6) was discovered shredding Democratic registrations.(7) In New Mexico, which was decided by 5,988 votes,(8) malfunctioning machines mysteriously failed to properly register a presidential vote on more than 20,000 ballots.(9) Nationwide, according to the federal commission charged with implementing election reforms, as many as 1 million ballots were spoiled by faulty voting equipment -- roughly one for every 100 cast.(10)

(Excerpt) Read more at rollingstone.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 2004; chutzpah; clutchingatstraws; conspiracy; conspiracytheory; floridarecount; gwb2004; kennedy; kerrydefeat; ohio; paranoid; rfkjr; robertislosingit; smokethebongrobert
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To: rwa265

Why yes I am. ;)


61 posted on 06/01/2006 12:34:04 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Flightdeck

IIRC, there were also some punctured tires found on vans that prevented some Republicans from getting to the polls.


62 posted on 06/01/2006 12:34:14 PM PDT by rwa265 (Behold, I am with you always. (Matthew 28:20))
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To: PetroniDE

LOL........Didn't think about that


63 posted on 06/01/2006 12:35:55 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: PetroniDE
If you can' get a 110% turn out in the Rat counties in Ohio, fire the county Committee.
64 posted on 06/01/2006 12:37:15 PM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: finnman69

Sorry, I couldn't get past "Robert F. Kennedy, Jr." and "Rolling Stone".

65 posted on 06/01/2006 12:38:50 PM PDT by Fintan (One day we'll look back on this and plow into a parked car.)
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To: finnman69

Let's say this is correct....Kerry wins the Presidency but still would have lost the national popular vote by millions of votes thus making him even more illegitimate than the dims said W was in his first term.


66 posted on 06/01/2006 12:39:24 PM PDT by xp38
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To: finnman69

Being that a Kennedy rant is the author explains unobjectivity. Wonder how much he got paid to have a ghostwriter write this junk for him?


67 posted on 06/01/2006 12:40:09 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: HitmanLV
From Columbus Precinct 44D: ''There are three voting machines at this precinct. I have been informed that in prior elections there were normally four voting machines. At 1:45 p.m. there are approximately eighty-five voters in line. At this time, the line to vote is approximately three hours long. This precinct is largely African-American. I have personally witnessed voters leaving the polling place without voting due to the length of the line.''

Ok

85 voters with three machines = 180 minutes (3 hours)?

If each voter took 5 minutes thats 425 minutes, divided by 3 machines, it should be about 2 hours and 20 minutes. Someone was exaggerating or they were complete idiots.

I can vote in under 2 minutes easily. 85 voters @ 2 minutes each with three machines means just under an hour wait.

68 posted on 06/01/2006 12:40:17 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: rwa265

"IIRC, there were also some punctured tires found on vans that prevented some Republicans from getting to the polls."

Oh yes, that was in Milwaukee. Who did the puncturing? None other than the scumbag son of their RAT congresswoman.


69 posted on 06/01/2006 12:41:52 PM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
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To: Red Badger
Psychologists/Psychiatrists call that "Projection"..........

which rhymes with election...

70 posted on 06/01/2006 12:42:00 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (God might just be bullish on America.)
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To: finnman69

Yes, the 2004 election was defintely stolen, in Washington State.

Odd how Democrats see no problem with a county voting in their favor comes up with some 3,000 more ballots than voters.

They see no problem with endless recounts until they get their way.

If RFKjr wishes to address stolen elections, he needs look no futher than the 2004 Washington State governors fiasco.


71 posted on 06/01/2006 12:42:25 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: HungarianGypsy
In Arizona there were long lines that took three or four hours to get through. There was even food brought in. People really wanted to vote and stayed in those lines. So, long lines are a sorry excuse. Especially when people will stand longer to wait for tickets to an event.

And as far as I know, no one was under threat of death for voting, as the Iraqis were when THEY voted.

72 posted on 06/01/2006 12:48:06 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (FreeRepublic and Rush Limbaugh: kevlar protection from the Drive-By Media.)
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To: NordP

RFK Jr has another pet cause he can't let go of...

He has been on a quest to prove that his cousin Michael Skakel didn't murder Martha Moxley. I have heard that even the rest of the Kennedy clan has told him to drop this and move on... but he won't.


73 posted on 06/01/2006 12:49:41 PM PDT by somerville
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To: finnman69
This precinct is largely African-American......

I can vote in under 2 minutes easily.

Considering those two sentences, the average time they should have taken is about 15 seconds ------ to hit the "Vote straight ticket" for the RAT party.

74 posted on 06/01/2006 12:52:29 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Don't mess with Texas.)
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To: rwa265
Are you thinking the polling methods were designed to skew the results in Kerry's favor so Bush voters in Western states would be discouraged from coming out to the polls?

I know this wasn't addressed to me, but I totally expected it. I expected the Democrats to do anything they could to try and depress the Republican turnout. It was kinda like the "Traveler" at the end of "Ghostbusters" - I didn't know in what fashion it would come...until I saw the exit polls. My thought was, don't believe what the exit polls say - for EITHER candidate - and if you must believe them, believe them AFTER you have voted.

75 posted on 06/01/2006 12:53:34 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (FreeRepublic and Rush Limbaugh: kevlar protection from the Drive-By Media.)
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To: roaddog727

76 posted on 06/01/2006 12:53:44 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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To: finnman69
This graphic contains an easily explained distortion:

Kerry received fewer votes that another Dem officholder in Mercer, Putnam (where I live) and Van Wert counties because Democrats in this area of Ohio are generally conservative.

Plus, even though they are Democrats, they were smart enough not to vote for Mr. Heinz.

77 posted on 06/01/2006 12:55:03 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Who's the wildman now?)
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To: finnman69

The 1960 election was bought and paid for by JFK's father. Carter won against Ford under questionable circumstances.


78 posted on 06/01/2006 12:56:46 PM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: xp38
Let's say this is correct....Kerry wins the Presidency but still would have lost the national popular vote by millions of votes thus making him even more illegitimate than the dims said W was in his first term.

Nope...then you'd have had all the people, who now are clamoring to change the Electoral College, raving about the glorious foreknowledge of the Founding Fathers in getting the EC right. There would've been story after story about the Electoral College, with the constant CAIRON on the bottom of the screen "KERRY WINS!"

79 posted on 06/01/2006 12:58:27 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (FreeRepublic and Rush Limbaugh: kevlar protection from the Drive-By Media.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Those are fabulous photos! Quite hysterical, in fact.


80 posted on 06/01/2006 12:59:11 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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