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Third Time
Opinion Journal ^ | June 1, 2006 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 06/01/2006 7:52:30 AM PDT by Mel Gibson

Third Time

America may be ready for a new political party.

Something's happening. I have a feeling we're at some new beginning, that a big breakup's coming, and that though it isn't and will not be immediately apparent, we'll someday look back on this era as the time when a shift began.

All my adult life, people have been saying that the two-party system is ending, that the Democrats' and Republicans' control of political power in America is winding down. According to the traditional critique, the two parties no longer offer the people the choice they want and deserve. Sometimes it's said they are too much alike--Tweedledum and Tweedledee. Sometimes it's said they're too polarizing--too red and too blue for a nation in which many see things through purple glasses.

In 1992 Ross Perot looked like the breakthrough, the man who would make third parties a reality. He destabilized the Republicans and then destabilized himself. By the end of his campaign he seemed to be the crazy old aunt in the attic.

The Perot experience seemed to put an end to third-party fever. But I think it's coming back, I think it's going to grow, and I think the force behind it is unique in our history

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bushbash; crying; needasecondparty; thirdparty
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The two parties in Washington D.C. don't represent the interests of the American people. There is a leadership vacuum, more like a black hole. Furthermore, political correctness is running rampant within both parties. Neither political party represents the interests of the United States.
1 posted on 06/01/2006 7:52:31 AM PDT by Mel Gibson
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To: Mel Gibson

I'm finished with the two party system.

...and I don't care about hearing lectures on wasting my vote. I feel like I wasted it the past 8 years.


2 posted on 06/01/2006 7:54:16 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: Fighting Irish

Let me add that I wouldn't vote democRAT with a gun to my head either.


3 posted on 06/01/2006 7:55:10 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: Mel Gibson

Not one of Noonan's better efforts.


4 posted on 06/01/2006 7:56:48 AM PDT by labard1
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To: Mel Gibson

Third parties are a great idea: Green, Progressive, Communist, Pacifist...

Good luck to 'em. I hope they attract a lot of voters


5 posted on 06/01/2006 7:56:51 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Liberalism: replacing backbones with wishbones.)
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The two parties in Washington D.C. don't represent the interests of the American people.

Unfortunately, I must agree with you. However, the current two parties have survived since the Civil War. Splitting a party is (correctly) seen as a sure way to hand control over to the other side since we do not have a parliamentary system here.

6 posted on 06/01/2006 7:58:37 AM PDT by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: Mel Gibson
(Part of the reason is that they think they can buy off your unhappiness one way or another. After all, it's worked in the past. A hunch: It's not going to work forever or much longer. They've really run that trick into the ground.)

I disagree with Peggy here. That "trick" will keep working as long as humans are humans.

If a serious third party emerged with a credible presidential candiate, official Washington would work triple overtime to defame, discredit and destroy him. You think the media is tough on Bush - what do you think they would do if any true advocate of restrained spending and smaller government actually had a chance to win an election?

7 posted on 06/01/2006 7:59:19 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Fighting Irish

8 posted on 06/01/2006 8:00:33 AM PDT by RebelBanker (If you can't do something smart, do something right.)
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To: Mel Gibson
In 1992 Ross Perot looked like the breakthrough, the man who would make third parties a reality. He destabilized the Republicans and then destabilized himself. By the end of his campaign he seemed to be the crazy old aunt in the attic.

Seemed???

He was and you Peggy are sounding like his sister

9 posted on 06/01/2006 8:01:23 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Jack of all Trades

I'm with you. As to "I'm done with the GOP", I simply don't understand how one can look at (1) Roberts and Alito on SCOTUS and Ginsberg and Breyer (2) the WOT (3) their Form 1040 etc. and even think of letting the greater of two evils back into power. Pinch your nose if you have to when you vote but I have children...


10 posted on 06/01/2006 8:01:50 AM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: Mel Gibson

How stupid. In politics you take the best of what one can get, and try to push the mainstream party in a favorable direction. This all just plays into the hands of the liberal democrats, whose election would be a disaster.


11 posted on 06/01/2006 8:03:33 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Mel Gibson

The globalists are the biggest losers. Multiculturalism was first started by corporations (free marketeers) and expoused by intellects (internationalists) in their quest to breakdown borders for the flow of goods, services, materials and last and not least labor. This is why PC is adopted by both institutions to breakdown American nationalism and Euro-centric culture/sensitivities. A funny thing happen that put the brakes on the process, it is call 9/11 and the Iraqi War. 9/11 galvanized the conservatives on border issues and illegal immigration, and the lefts/MSM highlighting the negatives of the Iraqi war is causing independents, liberals and conservatives to become wary of overseas wars and involvements. Neo isolationism will form part of the third party agenda. Recent op eds in the NY Times is cautioning the Dem left that their demonization of GWB foreign policy may jeopardize the Dem globalistss' desires to have the US become part of the internationalist world "government"


12 posted on 06/01/2006 8:04:44 AM PDT by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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The globalists are the biggest losers.

They aren't losers yet.

Southern border blurs for global trade

They are going to 'globalize' the US yet, and the taxpayers and citizens will pay for it.
13 posted on 06/01/2006 8:09:29 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: eureka!
Don't forget the abrogation of the ABM treaty, fast forwarding BMD, and the final stakes in the heart of Kyoto and the ICC.

Both times that I voted for President Bush, I was under no illusions that he was Santa Claus. Most, if not all of the events for which he is being pilloried would have happened or will happen regardless of the party in power.

14 posted on 06/01/2006 8:11:38 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Liberalism: replacing backbones with wishbones.)
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To: Mel Gibson

The divisor in politics is special interests. That is what makes immigration such a tough issue. In reality neither party wants to see anything done. The Democrats are courting the illegal immigrants for political power and the Republicans are courting the law breaking companies hiring and attracting illegals. No one represents the middle class who works hard and plays by the rules and understands our elected officeholders must put the sovereignity of this country before their special interest groups. I am not optimistic about a viable third party, but I would like to see truly open primaries and doing away with the ridiculous media driven New Hampshire and Iowa presidential system. Bush running against Kerry, one Ivy League Skull and Crossboner against another. If a voter is from a populous state is not too old, they probably have never voted in a Presidential primary where the outcome was not already decided and therefore their vote meant anything.


15 posted on 06/01/2006 8:11:39 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Fee
Neo isolationism ?

Does that mean Nafta-plus?
16 posted on 06/01/2006 8:12:13 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Mel Gibson
Something's happening. I have a feeling we're at some new beginning, that a big breakup's coming

What a drama queen.

17 posted on 06/01/2006 8:13:02 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (All Hail Buah The Wasp Killer!!!!!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I disagree with Peggy here. That "trick" will keep working as long as humans are humans.

Peggy knows the dollar's dropping, everyone and his cousin is getting "disability", or prescription drug, or some other "program" benefits -- and the well's drying up. You have to have something to pay people off with -- and this bunch has spent it. What they haven't spent they want to give to the illegals. Peggy might be on to something...

18 posted on 06/01/2006 8:13:53 AM PDT by GOPJ ("What we have learned from history is that we haven't learned from history." B.Disraeli)
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To: labard1
Noonan is reaching Pat Buchanan status.

Apparently, she doesn't realize the good Republicans that are worth supporting in the House - Pence, Tancredo, Sensenbrenner, etc. Or strong conservative Senators such as Santorum, Sessions, or Allen.

Yes, let's all take our marbles and go home instead of getting behind strong conservatives and purging RINOs. Goodbye Noonan, it was nice knowing you.

19 posted on 06/01/2006 8:15:27 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: Mel Gibson

Something to consider:
The last time a new political party came into power we had the Civil War.


20 posted on 06/01/2006 8:17:19 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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