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Click it or ticket
townhall ^ | 5/24/06 | Walter WIlliams

Posted on 05/31/2006 9:42:50 AM PDT by from occupied ga

Virginia's secretary of transportation sent out a letter announcing the state's annual "Click It or Ticket" campaign May 22 through June 4. I responded to the secretary of transportation with my own letter that in part reads:

"Mr. Secretary: This is an example of the disgusting abuse of state power. Each of us owns himself, and it follows that we should have the liberty to take risks with our own lives but not that of others. That means it's a legitimate use of state power to mandate that cars have working brakes because if my car has poorly functioning brakes, I risk the lives of others and I have no right to do so. If I don't wear a seatbelt I risk my own life, which is well within my rights. As to your statement 'Lack of safety belt use is a growing public health issue that . . . also costs us all billions of dollars every year,' that's not a problem of liberty. It's a problem of socialism. No human should be coerced by the state to bear the medical expense, or any other expense, for his fellow man. In other words, the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another is morally offensive."

My letter went on to tell the secretary that I personally wear a seatbelt each time I drive; it's a good idea. However, because something is a good idea doesn't necessarily make a case for state compulsion. The justifications used for "Click It or Ticket" easily provide the template and soften us up for other forms of government control over our lives.

For example, my weekly exercise routine consists of three days' weight training and three days' aerobic training. I think it's a good idea. Like seatbelt use, regular exercise extends lives and reduces health care costs. Here's my question to government officials and others who sanction the "Click It or Ticket" campaign: Should the government mandate daily exercise for the same reasons they cite to support mandatory seatbelt use, namely, that to do so would save lives and save billions of health care dollars?

If we accept the notion that government ought to protect us from ourselves, we're on a steep slippery slope. Obesity is a major contributor to hypertension, coronary disease and diabetes, and leads not only to many premature deaths but billions of dollars in health care costs. Should government enforce, depending on a person's height, sex and age, a daily 1,400 to 2,000-calorie intake limit? There's absolutely no dietary reason to add salt to our meals. High salt consumption can lead to high blood pressure, which can then lead to stroke, heart attack, osteoporosis and asthma. Should government outlaw adding salt to meals? While you might think that these government mandates would never happen, be advised that there are busybody groups currently pushing for government mandates on how much and what we can eat.

Government officials, if given power to control us, soon become zealots. Last year, Maryland state troopers were equipped with night vision goggles, similar to those used by our servicemen in Iraq, to catch night riders not wearing seatbelts. Maryland state troopers boasted that they bagged 44 drivers traveling unbuckled under the cover of darkness.

Philosopher John Stuart Mill, in his treatise "On Liberty," said it best:  "That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it will make him happier, because, in the opinions of others, to do so would be wise, or even right. These are good reasons for remonstrating with him, or reasoning with him, or persuading him, or entreating him, but not for compelling him, or visiting him with any evil, in case he do otherwise."

Dr. Williams serves on the faculty of George Mason University in Fairfax, VA as John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 4a; 4thamendment; clickitorticket; donutwatch; fourthamendment; governmentabuse; govwatch; libertarians; mdm; policeabuse; seatbelt; seatbelts; walterwilliams
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To: chrispycsuf
off topic debate...these are related issues...and i didnt know i was going to be disciplined for lack of grammer in punctuation and capitalisation


You weren't disciplined. It was just implied that your carelessness with your communication makes you look stupid.

You seem to have trouble with the difference between being encouraged to do the right thing (e.g. write courteously, wear a seatbelt) and being punished for failure to do so.

And the fact that I will not engage in the WOD debate with you does not deny you the right to hijack this thread to distract from the good issues the author raised.
121 posted on 05/31/2006 10:35:53 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: marinamuffy
"Click it or Ticket".

Oh for the days before shoulder harnesses...
122 posted on 05/31/2006 10:36:04 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: djf
the right of a person to go from place to place WITHOUT GOVERNMENT PERMISSION is an ancient right uder the common law of England.

You are absolutely right, you have the right to walk anywhere you want.

123 posted on 05/31/2006 10:36:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: chrispycsuf

Oh, and try the friggin' spell checker for a change, if you don't want to come off like a half-wit.


124 posted on 05/31/2006 10:36:51 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Smokin' Joe
So have your insurance rates gone down with all the seat belt legislation? After all, we're all safer now, right?

When I started driving, a significant number of vehicles on the highway did not have seat belts. The dashboards were made of steel, no padding, no airbags, no crumple zones, bias ply tires, no antilock brakes, no traction control computers, some didn't even have collapsing steering columns.

Good point, all the safety features and the insurance rates are higher. Hmmmmmmmm

125 posted on 05/31/2006 10:37:17 AM PDT by Protagoras ("A real decision is measured by the fact that you have taken a new action"... Tony Robbins)
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To: rwfromkansas

See my #30 and get ready to bend over.


126 posted on 05/31/2006 10:37:24 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: from occupied ga
Maybe it's because every dead driver is a potential loss of $10,000/year in taxes paid to the government. They want to keep you alive to keep the revenue stream going. ;-)

-PJ

127 posted on 05/31/2006 10:37:38 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: chrispycsuf
as man as abraham lincoln when he dismissed some of the rights in the constitution to preserve the SECURITY of the united states and keep the union together..

You're quite out of your mind, dangerous and very much on the wrong forum.

128 posted on 05/31/2006 10:37:43 AM PDT by TomServo ("Not even chauffeur's can resist the fresh taste of ultimate power.")
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To: capt. norm

Perhaps you guys in Florida need to be as vocal as in KS. They tried to make it a primary offense two or three years ago, but the folks in Topeka backed off when they got quite a few angry phone calls from the people back home.


129 posted on 05/31/2006 10:38:21 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: chrispycsuf
and i didnt know i was going to be disciplined for lack of grammer in punctuation and capitalisation

You forgot spelling.

Government school diploma?

130 posted on 05/31/2006 10:38:51 AM PDT by Protagoras ("A real decision is measured by the fact that you have taken a new action"... Tony Robbins)
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To: rwfromkansas
It is only a secondary offense in Kansas.

Used to be like that here in Illinois also. Not any more.
131 posted on 05/31/2006 10:39:06 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: Protagoras

when government does not force individuals to bear the private costs of the bad decisions of others.

I guess you have a problem with the laws that force you to do that.

Instead, you bought into the authoritarian trap.



I find your post incoherent. Your statements do not appear to relate to the excerpt of what I wrote.


132 posted on 05/31/2006 10:39:09 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: TomServo
You're quite out of your mind, dangerous and very much on the wrong forum.

Yep I forgot with many here Lincoln and Hitler are synonymous.

133 posted on 05/31/2006 10:39:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dfwgator

"You do not have the right to drive, it is a privilege, and to keep that privilege there are rules to follow."



Yeah, like illegal aliens care about rules to follow .Cut me a break . this is government power out of control ( along with gun laws and helmet laws ). Tom Jefferson is spinning in his grave .
The legislatures pass 10 laws a year . In ten years you have been restricted 100 more times . How many laws do thet abolish in that period of time ????


134 posted on 05/31/2006 10:39:19 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Smokin' Joe

how ever did you survive without onstar??? (sarcasm from a 20-something guy)


135 posted on 05/31/2006 10:39:45 AM PDT by chrispycsuf (our troops need our support now more than ever)
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To: BlueStateDepression

I'm not going to bite, other than to say that's the most inane question that's been posed to me since the last time I was in an airport.


136 posted on 05/31/2006 10:39:59 AM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: JoeSixPack1

They tried to make it primary here a couple years ago, but folks raised enough ruckus they dropped the idea.

I am not normally too libertarian, but by golly, seatbelt usage should be optional.


137 posted on 05/31/2006 10:40:16 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas

I almost always wear my seatbelt, but about a month ago, while running several errands and getting in and out of the car, I forgot to put it on. Trooper stopped me just for not wearing it. Cost me $140!! This is in Texas of all places. It's to make money and nothing else.


138 posted on 05/31/2006 10:40:43 AM PDT by half-cajun
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To: chrispycsuf
my brother decided to go driving at night....was hit by another driver, was ejected out of the car and died...

And because of that loss, you think the feds should usurp power by forcing states to enact seat-belt laws, and the states should use ever-more intrusive methods to enforce those laws, such as night-vision googles?

Most bad government comes when someone says "there ought to be a law!" like you've done here.

139 posted on 05/31/2006 10:40:49 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: BlueStateDepression

Is a state that enforces its laws a police state?



Depends on the laws.

Perhaps a look at the article under discussion might illustrate this:

"That means it's a legitimate use of state power to mandate that cars have working brakes because if my car has poorly functioning brakes, I risk the lives of others and I have no right to do so. If I don't wear a seatbelt I risk my own life, which is well within my rights."

Get it now?


140 posted on 05/31/2006 10:40:59 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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