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Shameful reactions to Haditha 'atrocity' (Whines Incessantly About Free Republic!)
Gulf News ^ | 5/29/06 | Linda S. Heard (grab your tissues)

Posted on 05/29/2006 4:46:05 PM PDT by Coop

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In the meantime, my column had been posted on a well-known right-wing American website, where it attracted 119 comments. Oddly, none of them displayed any hint of disquiet over the behaviour of the Marines under investigation. Rather, their outrage was reserved for John Murtha and yours truly.

One poster's reaction was to "nuke the Middle East" adding "thank you very much Dishonourable Rep. Jack Murtha". He was later to write "if you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them".

A few of his co-posters rushed to the website of Murtha's Republican challenger Diana Irey to donate campaign funds.

The fact that this murdering troop has the support of even those 119 posters is worrisome. Surely, nobody should defend the indefensible based on some false notion of patriotism.

Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country and behave according to international rules of law and the Geneva Conventions that were drawn up as a result of atrocities committed during the Second World War. There should be a difference between real soldiers and ruthless thugs with public opinion the final arbiter.

If the public, as represented by the 119 posters on the Free Republic website, condones such behaviour or seeks to excuse it, then not only is its members giving their country's soldiers a license to kill arbitrarily, they are altering the fundamental psyche of their nation.

To quote a well-known rationalist intellectual Felix Adler "Love of country is like love of women - he loves her best who seeks to bestow on her the highest good."

The "Freepers" - as members of the Free Republic website have come to be known - may also like to contemplate the words of theologian Howard Thurman who said "During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable, even though it has to masquerade often under the guise of patriotism."

In short, people who glorify soldiers who purposefully assassinate women and small children are as misguided as those who glorify the blowing up of crowded buses, trains and marketplaces.

Does the donning of a uniform render its wearer impervious to justice? The Nuremberg trials indicate not...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 12th; clintonistas; district; freerepublic; haditha; irey; murtha; murthawatch; pennsylvania; traitor; treason
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To: Coop
Hey lady, you are an idiot. I bet you are one of those who say Saddam is innocent until proven guilty, but the troops are just GUILTY no matter what right??? Go over there and see if you just stand there and not defend yourself! You make me sick.
501 posted on 06/03/2006 5:56:11 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred; Doctor Raoul; theDentist
Amazingly Ms. Heard is still nil heard in response to my kind E-mail offer.
502 posted on 06/04/2006 6:28:43 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop
Amazingly Ms. Heard is still nil heard in response to my kind E-mail offer.

You didn't....I mean take one in the shorts for the team...and see that Ms. Heard gets the "Big O" that she needs to clear her thinking?

503 posted on 06/04/2006 8:11:39 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Liberals saying "We Support The Troops" is like OJ looking for the real killers.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

And muscle in on your territory, Doc? I wouldn't dream of it! :-P


504 posted on 06/04/2006 8:14:27 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop; VOA; NordP; Mr. Silverback; Alamo-Girl; Former Military Chick; patriciaruth; DrDeb; ...
I have visited Marines in Walter Reed who had fingers blown off and serious burns to their legs and lower torso because they didn't throw a handgrenade back into the crowd from whence it came.

I was asked to visit one of these by Mr. Silverback, whom I've pinged above, and I tell ya - I was stricken when "Bones", the Marine buddy to the guy from Mr. Silverback's hometown, told me how the grenade was tossed into their vehicle but they didn't have anywhere to throw it because there were women and children and other innocent bystanders around their vehicle.

I admit that I had the thought, "You threw it in here, HERE - you deal with it" and would have tossed it back from whence it came.

But our Soldiers, Marines, Airman, Coasties, and Sailors are taught otherwise. They are taught not to bring combat actions to the feet of civilians.

From where to do we get men such as these? (sob)

P.S., I couldn't ping "Tonk" because I can't remember his whole moniker. Anyone seen him around lately?

505 posted on 06/04/2006 2:14:17 PM PDT by TruthNtegrity (What happened to "Able Danger" and any testimony by Col Schaffer?)
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To: TruthNtegrity

There are some truly amazing folks serving in our military. It's humbling to meet them, but especially those carrying the scars of battle.


506 posted on 06/04/2006 2:20:10 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: TruthNtegrity; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Ping


507 posted on 06/04/2006 2:23:16 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: TruthNtegrity
From where to do we get men such as these? (sob)

Indeed. I thank God for our heroes!
509 posted on 06/04/2006 9:51:23 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Coop
"The fact that this murdering troop"...

[Gee, Ms. Heard, whatever happened to the vaunted "presumption of innocence" that liberal air-heads such as you always insist on for no less than Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, his murders and his supposedly-nonexistent WMDs? These marines are already tried and convicted in your demented head, Ms. Heard. Apparently you are uncritical of "the story"...despite multiple sources of evidence that it was a phony. Jihadist 'student's' and Jihadist "reporter"...Johnny on the spot...multiple versions by a child who revealed the complicity of their own family...]

"...has the support of even those 119 posters is worrisome."

[ Ms. Heard thinks to herself, DAMNATION! These people are smart. They aren't swallowing the Kool-Aid! Blast, this is EXTREMELY WORRYING BECAUSE we are going to be SO EXPOSED as liars just like Dan Blather...we have to attack them RIGHT AWAY! Marginalize them SOMEHOW! ]

"...Surely, nobody should defend the indefensible based on some false notion of patriotism. "

Isn't it interesting how the liberal anti-patriots suddenly try to lecture conservatives on patriotism? Suddenly these people who preached moral relativism against any kind of patriotism whatsoever, and preached presumption of innocence and defended the Jihadists and Saddam Hussein...suddenly espouse the view that something is "indefensible"? In other words there is suddenly something so heinous that both moral relativism and their presumption of innocence is just "indefensible...." but only apparently when it applies to U.S. Marines.

Speaking of patriotism, I don't think Ms. Heard would know or appreciate that she is unfit to have patriotism of any kind for the U.S., false notion or otherwise...due her own putrid self-righteousness devoid of due process...or rule of law...or innocence until proven guilty...beyond a reasonable doubt.


510 posted on 06/05/2006 1:45:59 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Coop
A few of his co-posters rushed to the website of Murtha's Republican challenger Diana Irey to donate campaign funds.

Dump Murtha! Click the logo and donate to Diana Irey for Congress!

511 posted on 06/05/2006 1:49:03 PM PDT by petercooper (Cemeteries & the ignorant - comprising 2 of the largest Democrat voting blocs for the past 75 years.)
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To: Paul Ross
In other words there is suddenly something so heinous that both moral relativism and their presumption of innocence is just "indefensible...." but only apparently when it applies to U.S. Marines.

. . .Liberal arrogance is itself heinous; cloaked in selective 'wisdom'; it is terrifying.

. . .and for sure Ms. Heard's observations re our 'murderous troops's are chilling; but not for the reason she imagines.

512 posted on 06/05/2006 11:56:38 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal Free. . .or suffer the consequences. . .)
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To: Paul Ross
Suddenly these people who preached moral relativism against any kind of patriotism whatsoever, and preached presumption of innocence and defended the Jihadists and Saddam Hussein...suddenly espouse the view that something is "indefensible"?

An incredulous bump. . .

513 posted on 06/06/2006 12:00:30 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal Free. . .or suffer the consequences. . .)
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To: Coop

She must be as pleased as can be that this article has garnered over 500 responses so far as opposed to the 120 or so her previous column generated.


514 posted on 06/06/2006 5:46:29 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: Tamar1973; cricket

Shockingly Ms. Heard has STILL not responded to my kind E-mail offer. :-)


515 posted on 06/06/2006 6:07:59 PM PDT by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop
If you apply the test of cui bono? to these accusations, it is clear that the terrorists have more to gain by massacring civilians than the U.S. military does. Don't fall for it.

If you examine the track record of the U.S. military and the terrorists, it is clear who has absolutely no scruples about killing civilians of any age, sex, confession or nationality.

516 posted on 06/07/2006 1:52:30 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: Coop
Ms. Heard: No doubt you are from a country other than the USA. Otherwise, you'd have remembered that a cornerstone of our justice system is a presumption of innocence in criminal matters.

As for that jerk Murtha there is no excuse. He's simply a giant windbag.

517 posted on 06/16/2006 9:51:02 AM PDT by CT
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