Posted on 05/29/2006 4:46:05 PM PDT by Coop
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In the meantime, my column had been posted on a well-known right-wing American website, where it attracted 119 comments. Oddly, none of them displayed any hint of disquiet over the behaviour of the Marines under investigation. Rather, their outrage was reserved for John Murtha and yours truly.
One poster's reaction was to "nuke the Middle East" adding "thank you very much Dishonourable Rep. Jack Murtha". He was later to write "if you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them".
A few of his co-posters rushed to the website of Murtha's Republican challenger Diana Irey to donate campaign funds.
The fact that this murdering troop has the support of even those 119 posters is worrisome. Surely, nobody should defend the indefensible based on some false notion of patriotism.
Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country and behave according to international rules of law and the Geneva Conventions that were drawn up as a result of atrocities committed during the Second World War. There should be a difference between real soldiers and ruthless thugs with public opinion the final arbiter.
If the public, as represented by the 119 posters on the Free Republic website, condones such behaviour or seeks to excuse it, then not only is its members giving their country's soldiers a license to kill arbitrarily, they are altering the fundamental psyche of their nation.
To quote a well-known rationalist intellectual Felix Adler "Love of country is like love of women - he loves her best who seeks to bestow on her the highest good."
The "Freepers" - as members of the Free Republic website have come to be known - may also like to contemplate the words of theologian Howard Thurman who said "During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable, even though it has to masquerade often under the guise of patriotism."
In short, people who glorify soldiers who purposefully assassinate women and small children are as misguided as those who glorify the blowing up of crowded buses, trains and marketplaces.
Does the donning of a uniform render its wearer impervious to justice? The Nuremberg trials indicate not...
Where was Murtha's outrage and the media's outrage when Clinton ordered Bosnia bombed from 25,000 feet?
How many civilians died during that campaign? Thousands and thousands.
So, let me get this straight, this woman has already convicted our brave U.S. troops when the investigation has NOT even been completed!??
Linda! You are a disservice to America and journalism!
I do too, but the subjects like the correct one. :D
Her original article, What's the price of Iraqi lives?--US military is behaving more like Barbarian hordes went far beyond the incident at Haditha under investigation to characterize that the US military is behaving more like a Barbarian horde than a well-trained, sophisticated force. . Charged responses should be expected to an accusation like that. I'm sure she expected them amongst her audience in the Arab world. From the enemies persepctive, of course.
Among her other charges
how "battlefield combatants" were stuffed into airless containers in Afghanistan that were later shot through with bullets
the dead buried under desert sands as members of the US military looked on.
physical and sexual abuses perpetrated by US guards at Abu Ghraib.
levelling of Fallujah where corpses were left in the street to be eaten by scavenging dogs
ambulances were prevented from reaching the sick and dying
family of five was shot while trying to escape the war-torn city by swimming across a river
hundreds have died at the hands of trigger happy US soldiers manning checkpoints.
US marine callously shooting an alleged insurgent, while he was lying injured and comatose on the floor of a mosque
doors were routinely smashed in, their occupants, including terrified small children, made to sit on the floor their hands bound behind their backs.
haha, not bad. I just know they like the proper term. Either one is worthy of much praise!
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wife of retired SAILOR!!! :D
Not really, she writes for a paper in Dubai.
Sounds like the kind of crap the Palestinans accuse Israel of engaging in. Typical.
From what I've heard, she's Eurotrash.
If these marines did this, they will stand trial and be punished...
However, and lets not forget we are at war, a war that PR is just as much as battlefield policy and actions, particularly with a press that is more than willing to aid and abbed our enemies.
Is it beyond the realm of possibilities that our enemies would dress themselves as americans and slaughter women and children in hopes of inciting the world against us? Given the fact they will slice of a mans head slowly as he is screaming to death on video... or drive girls who don't have their headscarves on back into a burning building.. or use mentally disabled people to be suicide bombers for them... I say that possibility is just as likely if not moreso than a unit of marines went on a wanton killing spree.
Obviously it is not beyond all possibility that a unit of marines dishonored themselves and this nation.. but to presume guilt out of the gate as you and Murtha have done for your own political means, not because any evidence has proven so... is just as much an affront to the ideals of this Republic.
Darn, I missed that. Got a link? :)
Ms Heard,
You can add me to the list of the 119 who support these troops. You see, unlike you, I understand what innocent until proven guilty means.
Not that I think that you even thought about that. You and your ilk are just part of that group that wants to jump on any topic that supports the "hate America" line.
You dont care about facts. Only how presumptions can be twisted.
Thank God for those soldiers who are out there defending your right to be an idiot.
CougarGA7, Albuquerque NM.
How Arabs View the World's Most Powerful Club-- Inside the Masonic Lodge
By Linda S. Heard
One of the best-known founding fathers of U.S. Freemasonry is Boston-born General Albert Pike, a 19th-century architect of the 'New World Order'. He was a linguist who rose to Grand Commander of North American Freemasonry from 1859-1891 and authored a Masonic handbook called The Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Rite of Freemasonry.
In this, Pike explains how the true meaning behind the symbols of Masonry must be kept from ordinary Masons: "Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry..."
On August 15, 1871, Pike wrote a letter to his friend Guissepe Mazzini, a third degree Mason, who had headed the Illuminati (a Masonic offshoot, rooted in Bavaria) in 1834. The missive--formerly on display in the British Museum--was a blueprint for three world wars Pike envisioned as necessary to bring about the One World Order.
According to Pike, the First World War must be brought about in order to overthrow the power of the Russian Tsars and of making that country a fortress of Communism... At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and weaken religions.
The Second War must be brought about so that Fascism and German (Aryan) Nationalism is destroyed, strengthening Zionism enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine...
The Third World War would take advantage of the differences between Zionists and the leaders of the Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam and Zionism destroy each other.
Wrote Pike: "Meanwhile, the other nations, once more divided on this issue, will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion..."
Sound familiar?
The Arab view
It's little wonder that the Arab world views Freemasonry with a jaundiced eye. Few Moslems become Masons.
The Jewish connection:
In the minds of many Arabs, Masonry is inextricably linked to Judaism, mostly due to the Qabbalastic system of numbers (Gematria) used during the rituals and references to the Temple of Solomon. In reality, Masons are mostly Christian (90 per cent in the U.S.) although it must be said that Jewish Masons tend to be influential, and are said to include several Israeli politicians, including Benjamin Netanyahu.
In 1996, a new lodge was formed in Israel, named after Sir Moses Montefiori, a prominent Mason and the brother-in-law of Nathan Rothschild. Its website reads: "The consecration (of the new lodge) took place in the quarries of Jerusalem..."
From this choice of location, one can, perhaps, interpret that members of this lodge believe that the origins of Masonry are linked to the construction of Solomon's Temple.
Albert Pike in his Morals and Dogma writes: "The room of place in which they (Masons) meet, representing some part of the Temple of Solomon, is also called the lodge".
One must surely, therefore, wonder why so many Masonic scholars have concluded that Freemasonry has its roots in European stonecutters guilds... or is this organised deception?
Masonic Forum magazine, while profiling Isaac Grassiani, the founder of the Supreme Masonic Council of Israel, suggests that Israel is "the legendary birthplace of the Craft." So, perhaps the view of some Arabs that Freemasonry's ideology is tied to Judaism isn't far wrong.
Recall that Pike's letter was written in 1871. He refers to Zionism by name, yet there was no Zionism in 1871. Nor were there Fascists or a communist Russia.
Pike's letter is no forgery, in fact it was, for a long time, on very public display. He was privy to the highest secrets of his order and he revealed them honestly.
After reading Pike's revelations, one can only come to the conclusion that history is not random, it is planned. Pike's letter proves by its very terminology that, among other issues, the Holocaust of the 1940s was as manipulated as is the upcoming war to the end with Israel. Note with strong interest, that both Islam and Israel are slated for annihilation.
There are numerous sources exposing the Masonic game of infiltrating Judaism to promote its demise from within. One of the most important books exposing Freemasonry's near-total corruption of Judaism are Rabbi Marvin Antelman's, To Eliminate The Opiate, Volumes One and Two. Below, in private correspondence, Rabbi Antelman explains how a Masonic symbol, the Star Of David was foisted on the Jews:
"You ask a very significant question. The late professor Gershom Scholem stated "The hexagram is not a Jewish symbol, much less 'the symbol of Judaism.'' In my research, I came accross microfilms of rare books by Rabbi Yaakov Emden exposing the Sabbatians written in the early 1750s. He reproduced satanic amulets most of which were in hexagrams and cursed the Sabbatians who created them. For a comprehensive well documented history on the Magen David, I refer you to Prof, Scholem's; The Star of David, History of a Symbol which appears in The Messianic Idea In Judaism
(Schoken,NY(1971).
Kol tuv,
Rabbi M.S. Antelman
A Brit I believe, living in Athens.
Baaaahhhhhhh, who cares? I'll assign her whatever nationality I want to! If baseless accusations are good enough for her, then they're good enough for me! :-D
Murtha's been dragging this POS bunch of allegations around for a couple of weeks, and finally got ABC to put him on a Sunday Show for some national exposure.
He and the DNC have been trying to make the WOT over as Viet Nam for the last five years, so now we get their latest attempt to have a Mi Lai 2006 and this drooling media twit is right there to push the storyline a bit further.
I'm already in the process of sending a note to my Congressman asking that he introduce resolutions to formally censure (at the minimum) murtha for willfully and maliciously interfering with an ongoing investigation together with gross violations of the civil rights of the Marines involved.
As far as this Heard person, my only regret is that I don't subscribe to the lib rag that she's writing for, so I can't tell 'em to cancel it. (I haven't had much use for the MSM since 1968, but this tops even some of the journicrap I saw then.)
If this takes me a long time to post, it's only because I'm trying real hard not to break this keyboard.
Naval Air
1965-1976
(Hope we didn't drop too many rocks on your head by mistake, Marine.)
:-) That would have been my Dad's head (Mekong Delta, '68-'69), and any mistakes were more than made up for by getting his unit out of some tight spots. [wry grin] My service involved a lot of sand.
Welcome home, Sailor!
Re #318:
From your lips to God's ears.
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